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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don't really think it's that overblown, he started in the O zone 60%+ and had the easiest opposition of all the guys that regularly played top 9 minutes.

And ya, any of Hall/Ebs/Nuge could outscore Hemsky, I don't debate that in the slightest, I'm saying it's pretty much just as probably that Hemsky outscores any/all of them.

- Zombie

So I guess you're against Yandle.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
So I guess you're against Yandle.
- Lahey


I'd take him, not sure I'd move both Gagner and MPS for him though... I'm thinking we could get a little bit smaller names for peanuts when teams move more $$ for July 1.

Michalek and Visnosky were both traded for scraps... it's too bad we couldn't have brought both of them in, our defense would go from bottom 5 to middle of the pack with them.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
So I guess you're against Yandle.
- Lahey

I think I am, especially considering what it would take to get him.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'd take him, not sure I'd move both Gagner and MPS for him though... I'm thinking we could get a little bit smaller names for peanuts when teams move more $$ for July 1.

Michalek and Visnosky were both traded for scraps... it's too bad we couldn't have brought both of them in, our defense would go from bottom 5 to middle of the pack with them.

- Zombie

Doubt Michalek was an option for us and would Lubo have come here again?
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
Doubt Michalek was an option for us and would Lubo have come here again?
- Lahey


If he'd go to the Islanders, I'd hope he'd also come here.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:48 AM ET
If he'd go to the Islanders, I'd hope he'd also come here.
- Zombie

He asked for a trade out of here not that long ago.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
He asked for a trade out of here not that long ago.
- Lahey


Clashing with Quinn from everything I read.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
But, they run the risk of learning how to lose. In horse racing you never want your thoroughbreds to lose. After awhile they come to think of it as okay and it kills their primitive drive to run ahead of the pack. It is not much different for great young players. These kids have won at every level. At some point in time, perhaps now, you need to be better than a lottery team again or you run the risk of turning into the New York Islanders at midnight.

Note: the Islanders got Visnoskey and that will be very helpful for them.

- spatso


Im not sure if horses have the mental capacity to realize the difference between winning and losing those races let alone let the losing affect their drive. All they care about is eating their oats after the race.

Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:11 PM ET
Clashing with Quinn from everything I read.
- Zombie

I don't know, he never wanted to come here in the first place.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:21 PM ET
I don't know, he never wanted to come here in the first place.
- Lahey


Well something was up his craw half the time - I think we all got a little tired of him slumping his shoulders. He seemed a little disinterested at times and perhaps it was to spite Quinn.


Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:27 PM ET
I'd take him, not sure I'd move both Gagner and MPS for him though... I'm thinking we could get a little bit smaller names for peanuts when teams move more $$ for July 1.

Michalek and Visnosky were both traded for scraps... it's too bad we couldn't have brought both of them in, our defense would go from bottom 5 to middle of the pack with them.

- Zombie


Tough call on that proposed deal - management would have to see even more of an upside to Yandle as I found it interesting that his Qual comp, TOI et cetera lessened in the playoffs. It seems Tippet didn't trust him as much as the hype would suggest.

Anyway, I agree on the search for stop-gap dmen for picks/ prospects. I hope Tambo can search those out or that there is a market for that in the coming weeks.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:28 PM ET
I don't know, he never wanted to come here in the first place.
- Lahey


Anyways, my point is less about the specific names and more about the theory of catching other teams salary dumps.

every year for the last 2-3 years good players have been traded for mid range picks, we need to cash in on a few of these.

I'd prefer Vishnoski for a 2nd rounder

over

Gagner + MPS for Yandel
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:33 PM ET
Anyways, my point is less about the specific names and more about the theory of catching other teams salary dumps.

every year for the last 2-3 years good players have been traded for mid range picks, we need to cash in on a few of these.

I'd prefer Vishnoski for a 2nd rounder

over

Gagner + MPS for Yandel

- Zombie

I know we'll have to target these salary dumps, but not every salary dump is going to come here. A lot of NTC. I think people need to realize this, not geez we could've had Michalek for peanuts when it was quite obvious he wouldn't come here.
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:35 PM ET
I like this tweet by Yakupov...

"What's the difference between mosquitoes and the Oilers? Mosquitoes stop sucking."

ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:37 PM ET
I like this tweet by Yakupov...

"What's the difference between mosquitoes and the Oilers? Mosquitoes stop sucking."


- OilerFanFromBC


Haha whaaaaat?
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:38 PM ET
I like this tweet by Yakupov...

"What's the difference between mosquitoes and the Oilers? Mosquitoes stop sucking."


- OilerFanFromBC


Thats a fake account
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Tough call on that proposed deal - management would have to see even more of an upside to Yandle as I found it interesting that his Qual comp, TOI et cetera lessened in the playoffs. It seems Tippet didn't trust him as much as the hype would suggest.

Anyway, I agree on the search for stop-gap dmen for picks/ prospects. I hope Tambo can search those out or that there is a market for that in the coming weeks.

- Salvo

It is quite curious how he had his best statistical year when he faced his highest qualcomp in 10-11, but his possession numbers weren't as good as when he faced easier minutes in 11-12. I guess a high SH% helps that.
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Thats a fake account
- ALEDDO

Is it? I wasn't sure.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
Isles threw the farm at CBj for Murray, every pick they had this year.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:43 PM ET
Is it? I wasn't sure.
- OilerFanFromBC


If you read some of his tweets there are more than one that say he isnt the real yakupov
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
Isles threw the farm at CBj for Murray, every pick they had this year.
- Lahey

I read about that, jesus.
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
If you read some of his tweets there are more than one that say he isnt the real yakupov
- ALEDDO

Yeah you're right. I found the real one off the Oil website
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
Isles threw the farm at CBj for Murray, every pick they had this year.
- Lahey


Lol seven rounds worth of picks just for Murray? Thats a little over board, especially considering they picked up Reinhart
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
Yeah you're right. I found the real one off the Oil website
- OilerFanFromBC


Its too bad that like all of his tweets are in russian, i bet he says some funny stuff
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
I read about that, jesus.
- Jack-artist

I don't blame the Isles for making the offer as they ended up picking all (frank)ing d-men which seems stupid, and I don't blame the Jackets for saying no. They can't draft worth a (frank)ing poop. Could've given them 5 1st rounders and they'd stills screw up.
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