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Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:33 AM ET
nice point...i always forget that hes so young seems like hes been in the league for a decade
- HAMgerber

Was definitely brought into the NHL way too early, if he had at least another year in the OHL things could have been different.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Jun 25 @ 12:33 AM ET
I think the Oilers will be forced to play Yakupov on LW this season because I don't see anyone trading for Hemsky until he shows he can have a healthy and productive season.
- dallas717


I'm not a huge fan of putting players on there off wing unless they've spent significant time there. I'd just put Hemsky in the minors then, somebody will is bound to pick him up on waivers.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:34 AM ET
I'm not a huge fan of putting players on there off wing unless they've spent significant time there. I'd just put Hemsky in the minors then, somebody will is bound to pick him up on waivers.
- rathagor

or put Hemsky on the LW at least
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:44 AM ET
I'm not a huge fan of putting players on there off wing unless they've spent significant time there. I'd just put Hemsky in the minors then, somebody will is bound to pick him up on waivers.
- rathagor

That is a terrible idea. He was just given a 2 year deal, do you really think he would be sent to the minors now? A healthy Hemsky is likely more effective than Yakupov or PRV. Let PRV get top line minutes in the A and be the first call up. This will be the first year Hemsky is injury free for a couple of seasons now and I am excited to see if he can get back to his old form, especially playing with Yakupov/ Hall/ Eberle/ Gagner/ RNH
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:47 AM ET
I love Jones I'd be sad if they traded him
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:48 AM ET
or put Hemsky on the LW at least
- numbear

Yakupov shoots left so I think he'd be a better fit there
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:50 AM ET
That is a terrible idea. He was just given a 2 year deal, do you really think he would be sent to the minors now? A healthy Hemsky is likely more effective than Yakupov or PRV. Let PRV get top line minutes in the A and be the first call up. This will be the first year Hemsky is injury free for a couple of seasons now and I am excited to see if he can get back to his old form, especially playing with Yakupov/ Hall/ Eberle/ Gagner/ RNH
- abware


Yeah, I would not put Hemsky in AHL, very bad idea. Hemsky needs to be playing in the top 6 to raise his value and then EDM trades him. It's either Yakupov or PRV starts in OKC, then once Hemsky is traded, the other comes up. Yakupov seems to be very confident to play LW, C, G, and D. Let him do it all.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:52 AM ET
Brodie and Irving + for Gagner
- mochoson

Negative. Irving is Bernier with no pub.
Id do Irving and (maybe) GlenX for Gagner and a pick, but that would never happen

Gagner is a stud. How about(assuming the teams ever trade post Staios):

Gagner and Belanger for Irving, Babchuk, and Kostopolis (and a 6th if Lowe feels he needs some cuddle)
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:53 AM ET
Paajarvi for Depres
- mochoson


Hmmmm. Deal.

I like prv alot, hes literally last on my last of guys i want moved.
But i think the oil have to make this deal.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:55 AM ET
As an aside, the fact that Calgary 'can't trade' with EDM is bs.
Not only would it kindle the dying rivalry, it would interest me a hella lot more than trading with Phoenix for the 14th time.
Oilers4ever2012
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Lacombe, AB
Joined: 03.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 12:56 AM ET
I'm not a huge fan of putting players on there off wing unless they've spent significant time there. I'd just put Hemsky in the minors then, somebody will is bound to pick him up on waivers.
- rathagor


Hemmer can play both wings (just did it at the worlds and played very well) so they will be fine. You can't bury him in the minors. Injuries aside, when he's healthy and plays like he can, he's one of the better playmakers in the league. You need him on your team.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:01 AM ET
Hemmer can play both wings (just did it at the worlds and played very well) so they will be fine. You can't bury him in the minors. Injuries aside, when he's healthy and plays like he can, he's one of the better playmakers in the league. You need him on your team.
- Oilers4ever2012

He reminds me of Juice (Huselius)...would you take J Bo for him + Belanger?

I'd do that trade 1001 times out of 1000
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:03 AM ET
Hemmer can play both wings (just did it at the worlds and played very well) so they will be fine. You can't bury him in the minors. Injuries aside, when he's healthy and plays like he can, he's one of the better playmakers in the league. You need him on your team.
- Oilers4ever2012


Good post
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:06 AM ET
Hemmer can play both wings (just did it at the worlds and played very well) so they will be fine. You can't bury him in the minors. Injuries aside, when he's healthy and plays like he can, he's one of the better playmakers in the league. You need him on your team.
- Oilers4ever2012

Thank you. Getting kind of sick of the hurrrr hurrrrr! Hemsky sux durrrr!from the window lickers around here. I think him and Gagner may make a lot of people eat their words this year. I will be almost unbearable if this happens.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:08 AM ET
He reminds me of Juice (Huselius)...would you take J Bo for him + Belanger?

I'd do that trade 1001 times out of 1000

- FLflames34



Hemmers A game is much better, it can be absolutely dominant. But its a reasonable comparison.

I do that deal cause we're desperate, and Injuries and a rough last season have driven his worth so far down. Its brutal. I still believe he can be elite, but we need a top pairing guy more than we need hemsky
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:08 AM ET
He reminds me of Juice (Huselius)...would you take J Bo for him + Belanger?

I'd do that trade 1001 times out of 1000

- FLflames34


I would and it seems fair for now because of Hemsky's value.
OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.23.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:09 AM ET
Hmmmm. Deal.

I like prv alot, hes literally last on my last of guys i want moved.
But i think the oil have to make this deal.

- hugefemale dog77

Oilers have more than enough prospects that can be moved and not every single one will turn out to be an NHL player anyways. They really need to focus on bringing in immediate d-men, deeper depth, and perhaps a proven goaltender by using some of their prospects in the deal. Even bringing in a guy like Mezsaros could make a huge impact. We aren't that far from being a playoff team, it's just a matter of the management stepping up and moving on to the next level.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:16 AM ET
or put Hemsky on the LW at least
- numbear


Agreed. I think he played LW when Cole was with Edmonton, and Hemsky did alright that year.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:20 AM ET
Paajarvi for Depres
- mochoson

i am actually fairly unfamiliar with paajarvi, so i dont know if you are serious or joking. as objectively as possible, simone despres is one of the better young d prospects on the cusp of being ready in the league.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:21 AM ET
Maybe with the Staal and Schenn reunions we should go after Jeff Schultz and that might entice Justin to sign with the Oilers.


and I am aware they are not related
lovin
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:21 AM ET
Oilers have more than enough prospects that can be moved and not every single one will turn out to be an NHL player anyways. They really need to focus on bringing in immediate d-men, deeper depth, and perhaps a proven goaltender by using some of their prospects in the deal. Even bringing in a guy like Mezsaros could make a huge impact. We aren't that far from being a playoff team, it's just a matter of the management stepping up and moving on to the next level.
- OilerFanFromBC


I agree with you.. its not like we need 3 or 4 defenceman.. we only need two maybe just 1 but that player needs to be an elite D man! We already have Smid and Petry which would make a great 2nd pairing.. and Nick Shultz Sutton Potter and good for 3rd line pairing.. we just need someone to play with ryan whitney or two top D man.. and then we can trade whitney!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:21 AM ET
Oilers have more than enough prospects that can be moved and not every single one will turn out to be an NHL player anyways. They really need to focus on bringing in immediate d-men, deeper depth, and perhaps a proven goaltender by using some of their prospects in the deal. Even bringing in a guy like Mezsaros could make a huge impact. We aren't that far from being a playoff team, it's just a matter of the management stepping up and moving on to the next level.
- OilerFanFromBC


We may not be able to acquire immediate impact help...

Despres may not be im meszaros' class at this point, but he may be great. Hes huge, can skate and has offensive upside. Hes looked good in his short stint in the nhl thus far anyway.
Not to mention he'd be cheaper to acquire.

And no, we actually dont have alot of prospects like prv. True top 6 potential, elite skating, and with size.
But anyway, i said id make the deal, so im not sure what the debate is.

A ton needs to go right for us to even get a sniff at the playoffs.
Continued ascent from the kids. 2 quality dmen. Dubnyk to handle the load. Healthy whitney. Continued ascent from petry. Hemmer bounce back or yaks has a great rookie season etc etc
I could literally go on and on.

Its possible, but we we're nowhere near a playoff team at this moment
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:23 AM ET
Oilers have more than enough prospects that can be moved and not every single one will turn out to be an NHL player anyways. They really need to focus on bringing in immediate d-men, deeper depth, and perhaps a proven goaltender by using some of their prospects in the deal. Even bringing in a guy like Mezsaros could make a huge impact. We aren't that far from being a playoff team, it's just a matter of the management stepping up and moving on to the next level.
- OilerFanFromBC


Yes. I'd try for Franson, then Meszaros, then Sekera. Yandle is nice, but I don't like to see Gagner be traded yet as there isn't a replacement. If anything, I'd do PRV+ for Yandle. I think EDM should actually sign Gagner to 2-4 year deal. He isn't going to get more than what Duchene got just recent. I say maybe $2.75-$3M per. It would help EDM have some value to trade him in the future.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:25 AM ET
Hemmers A game is much better, it can be absolutely dominant. But its a reasonable comparison.

I do that deal cause we're desperate, and Injuries and a rough last season have driven his worth so far down. Its brutal. I still believe he can be elite, but we need a top pairing guy more than we need hemsky

- hugefemale dog77

makes our top 6 (w sven) utterly unstoppable
makes the top pair of the oil better than 06
win win

our best trade partner truly is edmonton
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:25 AM ET
We may not be able to acquire immediate impact help...

Despres may not be im meszaros' class at this point, but he may be great. Hes huge, can skate and has offensive upside. Hes looked good in his short stint in the nhl thus far anyway.
Not to mention he'd be cheaper to acquire.

And no, we actually dont have alot of prospects like prv. True top 6 potential, elite skating, and with size.
But anyway, i said id make the deal, so im not sure what the debate is.

A ton needs to go right for us to even get a sniff at the playoffs.
Continued ascent from the kids. 2 quality dmen. Dubnyk to handle the load. Healthy whitney. Continued ascent from petry. Hemmer bounce back or yaks has a great rookie season etc etc
I could literally go on and on.

Its possible, but we we're nowhere near a playoff team at this moment

- hugefemale dog77


despres is going to be a good one. if shero moves him and its not as a piece in a deal to get someon like bobby ryan then he is making a mistake. he is one of the only d prospects the pens have that will actually hit someone during the course of their career.
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