Because we trade them away.. Look at Rask

People want to do the same here.. "Just include Scrivens in the Lu deal"....
- mfreedman

He had to be traded, people still to this day say we should have kept Rask, JFJ offered him a contract three times and the agent rejected it, Leaf would have lost his rights if he was not traded, it just happens it was the wrong trade, just a big mistake for who he was traded for.

The thing is....if we keep going with risky goalies, do these guys care to come play for us? Not that I really want to go after Stastny for the likely price he'll cost....but just saying. Toronto isnt looking too inviting as of yet. Luongo could help in that department.
- noename09

I'm not to sure about that. Despite what people say, I think we are on the right track and players see that.

The 1st year and a holf of Burke's tenure was rough (Komi signing, Kessel deal) but since then he's filled our cupboards with prospects that are starting to become NHL ready.

I think we appeal to Schultz, he can fit in our top 4, and he can play with his buddy Jake Gardiner.

Vancouver is his home town, while Oilers are pretty much the perfect fit and timing for him to go to, and is close to Vancouver.

Paul Stastny wouldn't come too expensive I don't think. Connolly, Franson, Percy and a 4th? I'm not to sure when it comes to trade proposals

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141

He had to be traded, people still to this day say we should have kept Rask, JFJ offered him a contract three times and the agent rejected it, Leaf would have lost his rights if he was not traded, it just happens it was the wrong trade, just a big mistake for who he was traded for.
- LeafMan

Where did you hear that? I just googled it and found zip

not going to happen. Any team that's losing their #1 center is not getting better with those guys in exchange. A #1 center is going to be a very good roster player, a high-end prospect, and a 1st round pick, possibly a 2nd round pick too.
- gravyface

Agreed. Startng point for a true 1C is Gardiner, 1st rounder ++

YO my dizzle!!

Uh, I dunno man, I really want Kadri to get a long look this year. The funny thing is, for all the people fearing that Burke is gonna over pay or trade away the future for pieces, he's not. He's also giving the impression (As far as I see it) that he's going to be pretty stubborn about trading away any assets.

I think he out-waited Holmgren on the JVR deal whick obviously worked out in the Leafs favor in terms of asset exchange. I think He'll have the same approach with our other assets. I Believe that Kadri, while maybe losing favor of the fans, hasn't lost Burkie just yet... Connolly on the other hand...
- PTVinnyMac

I can't see Connolly playing here next season. He gets dumped on some sucker or sent to the minors. I know Burke is loathe to do that, but NYR did it and it doesn't seem to cost them any sort of bad reputation.

... on the other hand, I don't think much of Colborne. Bozak is an OK little player, but not a first liner, and not a 3rd/4th liner either.

Maybe Connolly plays after all

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141



- jbold

smartass lol

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141



- jbold

smartass lol

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141



- jbold

Hey how did you do that?

There are lots of teams out there going with a young tandem or a "no name" goaltender though.

I don't think Luongo brings a wow factor to our team at all because everyone knows that we're still rebuilding and not really a contender soon anyways, and adding Luongo doesn't change that.
- gravyface

if we can snag Luongo for a salary dump and mediocre asset, something we can afford to move, it dosnt HURT us to bring the guy in. By no way does bringing in somone of his caliber HURT us...by no way does WINNING more games, HURT us....man you guys have all gotten so used to losing that it seems like the norm to you....

the only reason Luongo is likely not a Leaf yet is because Gillis is upset with the situation and dosnt want to give him away, because he HAS WORTH. If he didnt have worth or if he was really a burden, he would have been gone now witht hat "horrendous" contract. Lets be real...Gillis wouldnt be negotiating so hard if he didnt feel Lu had actual value. Burke wants Lu, he will help this team, but he understands the predicament Gillis is in and wants to take advantage of it.

Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype

Here's the problem with Luongo refusing to waive his no-trade clause to go to Toronto or Chicago: About 27 other teams have no-want clauses.

Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype

Here's the problem with Luongo refusing to waive his no-trade clause to go to Toronto or Chicago: About 27 other teams have no-want clauses.


- cor99

nice!

if we can snag Luongo for a salary dump and mediocre asset, something we can afford to move, it dosnt HURT us to bring the guy in. By no way does bringing in somone of his caliber HURT us...by no way does WINNING more games, HURT us....man you guys have all gotten so used to losing that it seems like the norm to you....

the only reason Luongo is likely not a Leaf yet is because Gillis is upset with the situation and dosnt want to give him away, because he HAS WORTH. If he didnt have worth or if he was really a burden, he would have been gone now witht hat "horrendous" contract. Lets be real...Gillis wouldnt be negotiating so hard if he didnt feel Lu had actual value. Burke wants Lu, he will help this team, but he understands the predicament Gillis is in and wants to take advantage of it.
- noename09

For somebody that doesn't have a name......... using that kind of logic will get you a name

Well said....... Pay attention everybody to what he said.

Why not though? would it hurt to see some playoff action? Get some winning atmosphere for our youth? we may not be in the position to challenge for the cup, but a couple years of having a pretty good goalie in Lu until Reimer is ready to take over is not a bad thing.

What do you think is better for our youngsters? Winning more games and learning along the way or having to suck and lose a hell of a lot while trying to learn??
- IrishRage

You write as if Luongo is the only choice out there. Not that I don't agree with your general thoughts above.In my opionion Luongo isnt the best way to get there.

But hey just my opinion.

Adam Proteau ‏@Proteautype

Here's the problem with Luongo refusing to waive his no-trade clause to go to Toronto or Chicago: About 27 other teams have no-want clauses.


- cor99

bwahaha

Hey how did you do that?
- GoneFullRetard

He reads twitter.

if we can snag Luongo for a salary dump and mediocre asset, something we can afford to move, it dosnt HURT us to bring the guy in. By no way does bringing in somone of his caliber HURT us...by no way does WINNING more games, HURT us....man you guys have all gotten so used to losing that it seems like the norm to you....

the only reason Luongo is likely not a Leaf yet is because Gillis is upset with the situation and dosnt want to give him away, because he HAS WORTH. If he didnt have worth or if he was really a burden, he would have been gone now witht hat "horrendous" contract. Lets be real...Gillis wouldnt be negotiating so hard if he didnt feel Lu had actual value. Burke wants Lu, he will help this team, but he understands the predicament Gillis is in and wants to take advantage of it.
- noename09

I think most people are on the NO Luongo train because of price. If he comes back for a small return hell ya, sign me up. But it wont be a small return so hell no, he can hang in VAN for 10 more.

YO my dizzle!!

Uh, I dunno man, I really want Kadri to get a long look this year. The funny thing is, for all the people fearing that Burke is gonna over pay or trade away the future for pieces, he's not. He's also giving the impression (As far as I see it) that he's going to be pretty stubborn about trading away any assets.

I think he out-waited Holmgren on the JVR deal whick obviously worked out in the Leafs favor in terms of asset exchange. I think He'll have the same approach with our other assets. I Believe that Kadri, while maybe losing favor of the fans, hasn't lost Burkie just yet... Connolly on the other hand...
- PTVinnyMac

Im all for giving Kadri the time, but when I think of trades and guys I wouldnt necessarily miss, Kadri/Mac/Franson are among the top of that list. (Guys who have some value).

You write as if Luongo is the only choice out there. Not that I don't agree with your general thoughts above.In my opionion Luongo isnt the best way to get there.

But hey just my opinion.
- D.Lemieux

He is the best option out there right now without having to gut our farm team.
If you can get a top 10 (depending on who you ask) goalie in the league for under stock market value, you do it.

If Luongo had 2 or 3 years left on his contract you can bet your bottom dollar he would cost a HELL of a lot more than he would right now

Okay you name me a goalie that was top notch all star goalie, that was NOT a good goalie when he was in his late 30's
- faceto27

Name me a top notch all-star goalie that hasn't won a cup that you would include in that list

Vokoun is now struggling in his late 30's after years of great performance
Joseph struggles in his later years
Richter same thing
Potvin as well

Name me a top notch all-star goalie that hasn't won a cup that you would include in that list
- mfreedman

hextall?

He is the best option out there right now without having to gut our farm team.
If you can get a top 10 (depending on who you ask) goalie in the league for under stock market value, you do it.

If Luongo had 2 or 3 years left on his contract you can bet your bottom dollar he would cost a HELL of a lot more than he would right now
- IrishRage

The problem is Gillis knows Burke needs Luongo. Eventhough Burke makes things sound like there are other options out there. The fact is, there is not a lot of choices out there, without overpayment. I think Luongo will be a leaf as well, but I think it will cost us more than what the fan base will want to pay, and the length of that contract scares me. But since he signed that before he was 35. If he retires, then the rest of the salary does not count against the cap.

I can't see Connolly playing here next season. He gets dumped on some sucker or sent to the minors. I know Burke is loathe to do that, but NYR did it and it doesn't seem to cost them any sort of bad reputation.

... on the other hand, I don't think much of Colborne. Bozak is an OK little player, but not a first liner, and not a 3rd/4th liner either.

Maybe Connolly plays after all
- GoneFullRetard

Connolly is our best PK'er, one of our hardest workers and best vets!!

Connolly is our best PK'er, one of our hardest workers and best vets!!



- noename09

i just choked on my coffee... no more saying connolly and best pk'er in the same sentence please.
Trying not to die over here

Connolly is our best PK'er, one of our hardest workers and best vets!!



- noename09

Dont forget that he is our best fighter as well.