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dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
First of all, you need to understand the IPB site....the beat writer is playing to HIS audience....those people hate everything the Islanders do, and everyone associated with the team. All they do is b*tch and moan about EVERYTHING. I used to go there to argue with them, now I just read it for a laugh. Let's start with this.....that was a Google translation into "pigeon English".....it's like the Bible....unless you can read Aramaic, you probably have no idea what it actually says. There are MANY NHL players considering the KHL this year- because if there's a lockout, they'd still like to be paid to play hockey....this is a non-issue, in my book.

Visnovsky doesn't have many years left to make REAL money- he's playing for what will probably be his last contract this year. He can play in Slovakia when he's 45, and still be better than everyone else in the league. I'm not too worried that he won't show up.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:16 PM ET
I still think Witt can play. It was only in that system he couldn't. Heck Guerin did not fit into that system.. and he won the cup on Pitt.
- niteislander


Witt skates like a truck backing into a loading dock...no one else has signed him, either. PS- this is why I don't want Komisarek......
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
Lets go Italy
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:19 PM ET
anyone know where the list for rookie camp can be found?

by the way... rumor has it the Isles invited the Long Beach kid to try out for the team. Joey Diamond... don't be surprised if he is a Matt Mouslon like story. He is the kid who no one looked at b/c of size. He scored 2 goal in the blue and orange game last year.. and was the guy who seperated Petrov's shoulder with a hit in practice. He also was number 3 in goals in the NCAA last year for Maine... .Little does not mean Not tough.. He can flat out fly and score too.

I also see us getting making another big move to upgrade the back line... I really thing they should do free agency before draft b/c a lot of teams are waiting to see if they can sign one of those guys before giving up a bunch of prospects in a trade.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:21 PM ET
Witt skates like a truck backing into a loading dock...no one else has signed him, either. PS- this is why I don't want Komisarek......
- dcb1


I hear u.. I think Viz is our Komi type guy. He is making a lot less than his cap hit.. so I don't see us going after Komi.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:21 PM ET
PPS- Qualify Martin and Koskinen....the rest are flotsam, IMO...
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
I hear u.. I think Viz is our Komi type guy. He is making a lot less than his cap hit.. so I don't see us going after Komi.
- niteislander


Visnovsky is better than Komisarek, for sure....in reality, I wouldn't mind Komisarek IF Toronto paid us to take him off their hands....
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
Visnovsky is better than Komisarek, for sure....in reality, I wouldn't mind Komisarek IF Toronto paid us to take him off their hands....
- dcb1

You cannot compare Visnovski to Komisarek....they are polar ends of the spectrum in terms of style.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:36 PM ET
Dee Karl: No, Not Again! Vis says YES
KHL Rumor a little over played

- Dee Karl

"Nabokov lost a year because he didn't think he was ready."

um, what? Why did he sign a contract with the Wings (I think?) if he "didn't think he was ready"?????

Great trade for the isles. By 2013, that pick should be in the teens (13-17th in the second)
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
Visnovsky is better than Komisarek, for sure....in reality, I wouldn't mind Komisarek IF Toronto paid us to take him off their hands....
- dcb1



Why waste the money and a roster spot?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
"Nabokov lost a year because he didn't think he was ready."

um, what? Why did he sign a contract with the Wings (I think?) if he "didn't think he was ready"?????

Great trade for the isles. By 2013, that pick should be in the teens (13-17th in the second)

- muffin_man



60th pick overall you mean...
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
Why waste the money and a roster spot?
- jimmc7722


Depends on what the return is.....Burke, usually a good GM, has been in panic mode from the day he came to Toronto, because their fans haven't grasped the "salary cap" idea just yet.....which is the one thing I will credit to our neighbors in Manhattan ....they DO seem to get it. If we can get Komisarek and a first round pick for a fifth round pick, for example, you would have to do that....that's all I'm saying here. They'd have to make it VERY worth our while. The money isn't the issue- we're not coming anywhere near the cap....but the roster spot is a good argument. That said, you can always waive him.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:15 PM ET
According to Ek Ryan to Philly heating up. Can it not be the same teams making the big deals all the time? Can it be the Isles turn for once?
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
According to Ek Ryan to Philly heating up. Can it not be the same teams making the big deals all the time? Can it be the Isles turn for once?
- ses111


I sometimes think Philly does things just for the hell of it, like we used to do when Dinglebury was our GM. They basically traded the Stanley Cup to LA. I wouldn't spend too much time wishing to emulate them.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
I sometimes think Philly does things just for the hell of it, like we used to do when Dinglebury was our GM. They basically traded the Stanley Cup to LA. I wouldn't spend too much time wishing to emulate them.
- dcb1


I just want to see the talent spread out more in all sports. I'm tired of the same handful of teams getting the top talent every year like the Rangers and Philly. There is suppose to be Cap how are they doing it? The problem is there are not enough owners with the passion and stones to win just like our owner. They sit back and let a few owners run the show. While a team like Philly has not won the Cup in years they are still seen as a big time and popular team. I want that for the Islanders.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
I sometimes think Philly does things just for the hell of it, like we used to do when Dinglebury was our GM. They basically traded the Stanley Cup to LA. I wouldn't spend too much time wishing to emulate them.
- dcb1


Eh, there was a plan behind last offseason for the Flyers I think. Similar to when Milbury had to make a decision between some of the vets and Laviolette and he sided with the players, the Flyers had to make a decision between Carter/Richards and Lavy, and sided with Lavy. Maybe I'm wrong about that...didn't follow it all that closely, but that's how it appeared to me. Long-term, I think they made the right call. They got quite a haul for those players...tons of young talent...and they still have the good coach in Lavy.

I'm not so sure Philly wins the Cup this past season if they kept Carter and Richards anyway, and the tensions would have probably only grown worse.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
I sometimes think Philly does things just for the hell of it, like we used to do when Dinglebury was our GM. They basically traded the Stanley Cup to LA. I wouldn't spend too much time wishing to emulate them.
- dcb1

Couts> Carter add in voracek and you really think youd pass on that deal?
Schenn is overrated 3rd liner but Simmonds is awesome.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
Couts> Carter add in voracek and you really think youd pass on that deal?
Schenn is overrated 3rd liner but Simmonds is awesome.

- muffin_man

I just don't see it. And yes Schenn is very overrated both the Schenns are. I think Philly was better before than now to be honest. Also I rather JVR then Luke Schenn.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:05 PM ET
Eh, there was a plan behind last offseason for the Flyers I think. Similar to when Milbury had to make a decision between some of the vets and Laviolette and he sided with the players, the Flyers had to make a decision between Carter/Richards and Lavy, and sided with Lavy. Maybe I'm wrong about that...didn't follow it all that closely, but that's how it appeared to me. Long-term, I think they made the right call. They got quite a haul for those players...tons of young talent...and they still have the good coach in Lavy.

I'm not so sure Philly wins the Cup this past season if they kept Carter and Richards anyway, and the tensions would have probably only grown worse.

- UIF


The bottom line is when Philly feels there is a problem they address it. All the moves may not work out the best but they do not just sit there and ignore the problems. They take action and they try to win. Good teams do not sit back and accept losing.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
The bottom line is when Philly feels there is a problem they address it. All the moves may not work out the best but they do not just sit there and ignore the problems. They take action and they try to win. Good teams do not sit back and accept losing.
- ses111

I agree with this but Philly was never losing.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
I agree with this but Philly was never losing.
- mighty13duck


Your right but that's the point. Just having a winning record is not enough for Philly.
The Iceman
New York Islanders
Location: Las Vegas , NV
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:31 PM ET
Eh, there was a plan behind last offseason for the Flyers I think. Similar to when Milbury had to make a decision between some of the vets and Laviolette and he sided with the players, the Flyers had to make a decision between Carter/Richards and Lavy, and sided with Lavy. Maybe I'm wrong about that...didn't follow it all that closely, but that's how it appeared to me. Long-term, I think they made the right call. They got quite a haul for those players...tons of young talent...and they still have the good coach in Lavy.

I'm not so sure Philly wins the Cup this past season if they kept Carter and Richards anyway, and the tensions would have probably only grown worse.

- UIF

carter and richards were known to be partying to much. And carter apparently slept with hartnell's wife or girlfriend. The two of them were becoming a distraction in the locker room, and the flyers went in another direction. Plus couturier is gonna be a beast soon.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jun 24 @ 2:51 PM ET
Your right but that's the point. Just having a winning record is not enough for Philly.
- ses111



*prays*
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
Lets go Italy
- mighty13duck



They're the Canucks of soccer.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:06 PM ET


They're the Canucks of soccer.

- GuyLaDouche

Nahh Italy has championships
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