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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
What I have seen from Schenn thus far, I haven't liked. He turns the puck over a fair amount, for a player who isn't a puck mover. He doesn't seem to make the calm, smart play often enough. He does bring some offense to the table, he's righthanded, and he's physical so there are some things to like. Hopefully he can develop into a solid # 2 guy. If he does, the Flyers will have benefited from this trade.
- PLindbergh31

I have heard from many Leaf's fans that Schenn does move the puck pretty well and he has a good shot. His biggest problem this year was that he bulked up, but apparently didn't skate in the offseason because he lost mobility. Take it for what it is worth though from Leaf's fans.

Secondly, to those who want Dustin Penner......... please, for the love of god, stop.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
Out of all the people on D, I would only move Meszaros because of his back injury. Even then, i'm hesistant. Unless they unload Kimmo because he's a good cap hit but salary is very low, but that's not happening either.
- the deaninator


Why would Anaheim take mez over coburn?? (if your them?)

We are offering what we want not what Anaheim wants & I can't see them doing that after mez back surgery
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:53 AM ET
I see well Cousins was a throw in to grab Schultz rights, I'm not trading any more roster players than Meszy and Voracek for Ryan.
- FreshFlyer


Thats my proposal as well. Mez & Voracek for Ryan. If Anaheim wants more, I'm fine with the Flyers trying to sign P.A. Parenteau.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 11:53 AM ET
I agree. Coburn was easily our best D in the playoffs.
- Schenn2shine


Friday's defense
Coburn-Grossmann
______(carle?)/Meszaros
Timmonen-________
MAB
Lilja
Gus


Today's roster
Coburn-Grossmann
Meszaros/Schenn
_____(carle?)/Timmonen
MAB
Lilja
Gus

If they trade for Ryan with coburn now it looks like this

Grossmann-_____________
Meszaros-Schenn
Timmonen___________(carle?)

MAB
Lilja
Gus

Thats more holes than what they started with, and they still won't land Suter/Weber/Yandle.
I don't like the trade at all. Leave it alone.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:54 AM ET
Why would Anaheim take mez over coburn?? (if your them?)

We are offering what we want not what Anaheim wants & I can't see them doing that after mez back surgery

- puckhead17


If I'm the Flyers I dont cave to their demands. The Flyers can keep their dcore in tact in case of injuries. There are other role players that they can sign in UFA that can help this team out.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:54 AM ET
Thats my proposal as well. Mez & Voracek for Ryan. If Anaheim wants more, I'm fine with the Flyers trying to sign P.A. Parenteau.
- stveshdy


I agree, and Parenteau would certainly be an interesting option. I wouldn't mind the Flyers signing him
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
I like parenteau. Would be a nice signing. Flyers have 11m plus the 10% this summer. Flyers have plenty of money to make some moves.
- stveshdy

Does that mean the Flyers theoretically could spend 7MM over the cap?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:56 AM ET
I agree, and Parenteau would certainly be an interesting option. I wouldn't mind the Flyers signing him
- FreshFlyer


Playing with Giroux he can be a valuable winger for this team. He was a very productive player the last two seasons.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:56 AM ET
Does that mean the Flyers theoretically could spend 7MM over the cap?
- Flyers1218


You could add that to the current money they have but they would need to get under before the start of the season I believe.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
If I'm the Flyers I dont cave to their demands. The Flyers can keep their dcore in tact in case of injuries. There are other role players that they can sign in UFA that can help this team out.
- stveshdy


No I don't cave in either

But from anaheims standpoint. They do expect more for ryan than a defenseman coming off back surgery and RFA winger

If mez was fully healed and cleared and jake was signed for a few years then that changes the complexion of the return

But with holmgren. Who knows???
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
According to Newsday's Arthur Staple, there hasn't been anything new to report in contract talks with pending unrestricted free agent P.A. Parenteau so it's likely that he will test the market on July 1.He enjoyed a spectacular year in 2011-12 with 18 goals and 49 assists in 80 games, so within a thin free agent crop this summer he could find himself in a good position to cash in with another club.
Jun 21 - 8:39 AM
Source: New York Newsday
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
Out of curiosity. If the Flyers could make one more big move what would you guys have?

I would really like Parise. Would that destroy our cap?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Out of curiosity. If the Flyers could make one more big move what would you guys have?

I would really like Parise. Would that destroy our cap?

- DrMidnite



we supposedly have 11 mill to spend but need to reup jake and carle and sign a backup goalie...

so unless parise will take 3 mill per there would have to be other moves
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
No I don't cave in either

But from anaheims standpoint. They do expect more for ryan than a defenseman coming off back surgery and RFA winger

If mez was fully healed and cleared and jake was signed for a few years then that changes the complexion of the return

But with holmgren. Who knows???

- puckhead17


If I'm Anaheim I ask the Flyers if Voracek would be willing to sign long-term. The Ducks are getting back a 2nd pairing defenseman with a young winger who has potential. I dont know if the Flyers would have to add a pick but that offer isn't terrible. Throwing Schenn or Couturier in the deal just causes another hole. So if im the Flyers I look at Parenteau if I cant get Ryan.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
He could be. Also guy is a monster in shootouts. He would most certainly be in the top 3.
- PLindbergh31

We need that
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:03 PM ET
wowza


“@sbaickerCSN: Interestingly, I'm told Holmgren had told JVR earlier this week not to worry about a trade. So much for that.”

- nhindian



Might be laught by now, but this is complete BS. Somebody may have told her that, but it's not true:

Alec Schall ‏@aschall21 Contrary to the tone of some articles about the trade @JVReemer21 and I did not feel misled by Mr. Holmgren. He has treated James well.

Alec Schall is JVR's agent.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
If I'm Anaheim I ask the Flyers if Voracek would be willing to sign long-term. The Ducks are getting back a 2nd pairing defenseman with a young winger who has potential. I dont know if the Flyers would have to add a pick but that offer isn't terrible. Throwing Schenn or Couturier in the deal just causes another hole. So if im the Flyers I look at Parenteau if I cant get Ryan.
- stveshdy


If we had Carle signed. I would move him for Ryan before Coburn if the ducks would bite on that??
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:06 PM ET
Might be laught by now, but this is complete BS. Somebody may have told her that, but it's not true:

Alec Schall ‏@aschall21 Contrary to the tone of some articles about the trade @JVReemer21 and I did not feel misled by Mr. Holmgren. He has treated James well.

Alec Schall is JVR's agent.

- BringBack25

I said that right away, glad to see it was officially disputed.

"I heard that they heard that homer said"...right. BS.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:06 PM ET
Out of curiosity. If the Flyers could make one more big move what would you guys have?

I would really like Parise. Would that destroy our cap?

- DrMidnite

If we traded mez and jake we could get both Ryan and parise
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:06 PM ET
We need that
- nails


Parenteau could really help on the PP also (15 goals and 24 assists the last two seasons combine).
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
If we had Carle signed. I would move him for Ryan before Coburn if the ducks would bite on that??
- puckhead17


Coburn is a deal breaker for me. I'm willing to part with Mez. Flyers cant afford to overpay for Ryan. They would have to many holes to fill.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Might be laught by now, but this is complete BS. Somebody may have told her that, but it's not true:

Alec Schall ‏@aschall21 Contrary to the tone of some articles about the trade @JVReemer21 and I did not feel misled by Mr. Holmgren. He has treated James well.

Alec Schall is JVR's agent.

- BringBack25


Timmy p's protege
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
If we traded mez and jake we could get both Ryan and parise
- griouxmvp2012

Anaheim isn't going to take that deal though.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
Anaheim isn't going to take that deal though.
- the deaninator


What if the Flyers went with Mez, Voracek, 1st rd pick for Ryan?

I dont want to overpay too much for Ryan. Flyers should just make a run for Parenteau.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
What I do not understand is this.

The Flyers needed a #1 d-man, and in turn got a guy who imho could turn out to be a decent #2.

That itself being a big if.

You trade your biggest asset when it comes to a trade and leave yourself in the same position. Assuming Kimmo retires next season they now have who to trade for the #1 d-man?

If they are praying Weber becomes a UFA or #44 can continue to be a number 1 after this season, I am worried.

For all of the talk of Parise and Suter, the pens will be driving up any bidding war.
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