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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
The fact that they are looking at Ryan is obvious that they don't want Jagr back. Homer has been pretty clear he will make a decision that is "best for the team." They have now lost a first line winger and a second line winger. I do think that Homer is concerned about offense and I think there is a guy in free agency that Homer likes and is confident he will get. Now, I love Mezzy as much as anybody, but if he is asked for to acquire a consistent 30 goal winger to pair with Giroux... then you make that move (under the assumption Homer knows how to fill that role). An older guy, like Adrian Aucoin, who would sign a 1 year deal is perfect.
- Flyers1218

They have wingers they can move up. The fact they are looking at Ryan doesn't say squat about Jagr, it says they are looking at Ryan, if they even are. I heard all this talk about Nash (another total mistake if was true) and we get Bob for picks, JVR for Schenn. Can't believe anything you hear in the first place, and have to avoid overpaying for players, especially if the team holding his rights is in a rather less than desirable position.

Edit: furthermore a similar deal would be Carter. We got Voracek and Couturier with the Pick they sent and everyone pretty much agrees that was highway robbery, so why should the Flyers be inclined to do the same?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:35 PM ET
I don't have to dismantle my team do get him. Furthermore offense isn't an issue with this team, they score enough goals. Want a 30 goal scorer go get one FA without giving up pieces. Whether it's a pathetic deal is irrelevant, the Ducks have an unhappy player that doesn't want to play elsewhere but philly, they aren't in a position to ask for a fair deal.
- JoeRussomanno



he said he'd prefer philly.... not that philly was his only destination. big difference
rb2378nj
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.12.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
The fact that they are looking at Ryan is obvious that they don't want Jagr back. Homer has been pretty clear he will make a decision that is "best for the team." They have now lost a first line winger and a second line winger. I do think that Homer is concerned about offense and I think there is a guy in free agency that Homer likes and is confident he will get. Now, I love Mezzy as much as anybody, but if he is asked for to acquire a consistent 30 goal winger to pair with Giroux... then you make that move (under the assumption Homer knows how to fill that role). An older guy, like Adrian Aucoin, who would sign a 1 year deal is perfect.
- Flyers1218



i agree 100%
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
Berger mentioned JVR as a center and a few leafs fans seems to think that's where he'll line up

should be interesting

- Crimsoninja


Burke mentioned the possibility of making him a center in his press call to announce trade
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
if he just changed his name now, id respect him alot and root for him.
- Crimsoninja




"come on dude, just do the right thing"
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
i agree 100%
- rb2378nj

100% huh, big problem with that is we only lost one winger
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
Im respectfully dissapointed with the amount of people willing to trade Mezzy. Thatd be a huge mistake in my mind. Best shot from thr blueline by far on the team. And the breif period of time he was healthy with Grossman was when Bryz looked his best. Id refluctantly give up MAB but anyone else would basically make JVR for Schenn trade useless.
- hereticpride



WOOOHOOOO

tell it
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:41 PM ET
100% huh, big problem with that is we only lost one winger
- JoeRussomanno

They could go after Parise but that's going to cost a lot of money and you also have to hope he wants to come here. Parenteau is the route.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
They could go after Parise but that's going to cost a lot of money and your also have to hope he wants to come here. Parenteau is the route.
- stveshdy

I guess he meant Jagr but we haven't lost him yet, and he's pretty much tipped his hand showing that here is his first choice.

I agree Parenteau is the best route, no assets to lose and reasonable cap hit.
rb2378nj
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.12.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
I guess he meant Jagr but we haven't lost him yet, and he's pretty much tipped his hand showing that here is his first choice.

I agree Parenteau is the best route, no assets to lose and reasonable cap hit.

- JoeRussomanno


jagr is less than 50% gone man
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
Burke mentioned the possibility of making him a center in his press call to announce trade
- Jsaquella

i miss him, john
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
They could go after Parise but that's going to cost a lot of money and you also have to hope he wants to come here. Parenteau is the route.
- stveshdy


I have very limited interest in Parenteau. I think he benefited greatly from Tavares & is looking to get paid, big time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
i miss him, john
- Crimsoninja

Luke Schenn will make a fine whipping boy
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
I have very limited interest in Parenteau. I think he benefited greatly from Tavares & is looking to get paid, big time.
- Jsaquella


if he can benefit from jt, imagine how much he can benefit from giroux
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
Luke Schenn will make a fine whipping boy
- Jsaquella

jeepers
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
Luke Schenn will make a fine whipping boy
- Jsaquella


Carle vs Schenn 2012-2013
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
I have very limited interest in Parenteau. I think he benefited greatly from Tavares & is looking to get paid, big time.
- Jsaquella


Any suggestions on who to get?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
Any suggestions on who to get?
- stveshdy


my guess is homer finds someone off the radar through trade. seems to be his MO
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
my guess is homer finds someone off the radar through trade. seems to be him mo
- flyerscup2011

Yup. Name is Bobby Ryan. Damn Homer
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Yup. Name is Bobby Ryan. Damn Homer
- stveshdy


I'd run to the store to buy his jersey if acquired.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
Yup. Name is Bobby Ryan. Damn Homer
- stveshdy

if we're giving up all these assets for him what was the point in trading Carter last summer then?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
If they did Voracek, Ford, and 1st I would personally drive Jake to the airport! How do you not do that deal. Bobby Ryan is extremely gifted and because he wants out, Anaheim isn't simply going to give away 150+ goals over the last 5 years for free.
- Flyers1218


Who is Ford?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
Carle vs Schenn 2012-2013
- funmaster18

I think they should pair them, it'll be great!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Carle vs Schenn 2012-2013
- funmaster18



Play them together, that way it'll be easier for the scapegoaters.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Play them together, that way it'll be easier for the scapegoaters.
- MJL

laught!
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