Absolutely. Briere is but one player on a team. And I'm sure you don't get excited and thank God when Briere pumps in a big goal in a playoff game. I'm sure you say, we don't need that.
- MJL

My biggest gripe with him are his numerous stick infractions. I understand he's at a size disadvantage but I'd like to see him cut those down.

My biggest gripe with him are his numerous stick infractions. I understand he's at a size disadvantage but I'd like to see him cut those down.
- funmaster18

And also the entire team to cut down on penalties.

My biggest gripe with him are his numerous stick infractions. I understand he's at a size disadvantage but I'd like to see him cut those down.
- funmaster18

Yeah, but I think that is one way he gets space. Its kind of a necessary evil.


But griping about Brieres defense is kind of like complaining that a sports car doesn't get good gas mileage. You may as well complain that he doesn't fight enough.

It could do well for him.
- ob18

I think it motivates him. How long it lasts is what I'm not sure of. Hopefully he has a good career. Its a shame he didn't have enough time to get it together here, but if Schenn turns into a great player then it was worth it. Just still not sure what to think until the team is fully put together.

And also the entire team to cut down on penalties.
- MJL

I'm not singling him out, just commented on him since he was being discussed.

Edit: just clarifying, not assuming you thought that

Yeah, but I think that is one way he gets space. Its kind of a necessary evil.


But griping about Brieres defense is kind of like complaining that a sports car doesn't get good gas mileage. You may as well complain that he doesn't fight enough.
- MBFlyerfan

If he can cut down the penalties, that's a positive. His defense is what it is. Not every player is going to be a selke candidate. Can he be better? Probably, but its not ever going to be a strength of his.

I'm not singling him out, just commented on him since he was being discussed.

Edit: just clarifying, not assuming you thought that
- funmaster18

Understood!

I don't mind the JVR deal, just thought, as others have mentioned, we would have gotten a 3rd or 4rth round pick back also. Any additional asset would have helped. That said, JVR's injury history may have played a part in the trade being a one for one.

Going forward, my personal preference would be to sign Schultz (another right handed shot), let Carle go in UFA and go for Parise. They will have this week to find out if this is possible as they can talk to, but not sign,Schultz.

D pairings of
Timonen/Coburn
Meszaros/Schenn
Schultz/Grossman

Effectively, we'd be changing out JVR/Carle for Schenn/Shultz/Parise


If you end up going after Ryan, I would be willing to do Jake. the rights to Carle and next year's 1rst, assuming you knew you could sign Schultz. If that happened, then I would resign Jagr.
- GeorgeBailey

I'm doubting Schenn and Meszaros get paired at any point (If Meszaros is still here). Meszaros doesn't play the left side.

How is he defensively?
- PootieTang

See blog. It's probably the weakest area of his game right now -- the only reservation Toronto should have about playing him at center. Needs to be more consistent in using his size effectively, too (not necessarily referring to hitting game, just in terms of getting to the net and being harder on the puck). But D is the #1 area in need of improvement, IMO.

I think people are underrating Voracek's potential.

I think people are underrating Voracek's potential.
- LeachHextall27

So are the Ducks if they aren't willing to take him in return for Ryan

I think people are underrating Voracek's potential.
- LeachHextall27

I think people have been using the word "potential" too much lately

I won't lie. I am a little down on Jake Voracek and I don't think the Flyers are through the moon over him either. it's not his play on the ice, it's having to re-sign him so soon after his last contract signing. The Flyers had a little trouble signing him one year ago and it's sounding like the Flyers might be having the same issues. Voracek had a very good season but it's not even his best of his 4 seasons in the NHL. Already this guy wants a 3rd raise.

I think people have been using the word "potential" too much lately
- funmaster18

I think people have been using the word "potential" too much lately
- funmaster18

potentially

I just did some number crunching. And my calculations put the Flyers Off Season Cap number currently at $64,324,224.
- MJL

Well that puts them at $5.5 mil in cap space, for all intents and purposes.

We have to squeeze Czech and Carle in for sure.

Can we even do that?? Ugh.

There goes Parise

I think people are underrating Voracek's potential.
- LeachHextall27

Not saying I would do it but I can see Homer calling Anaheim and offering Voracek, Meszaros, and a 1st for Ryan.

I think Homer would be fine re-signing Carle and having Carle-Timonen, Coburn-Grossman, Schenn and a UFA with Lilja and Gustafsson

MAB could be traded in August for a future draft pick a la Powe.

Not saying I would do it but I can see Homer calling Anaheim and offering Voracek, Meszaros, and a 1st for Ryan.

I think Homer would be fine re-signing Carle and having Carle-Timonen, Coburn-Grossman, Schenn and a UFA with Lilja and Gustafsson

MAB could be traded in August for a future draft pick a la Powe.
- sulshawn

I don't like this plan.

However, I'm not Homer.

I don't like this plan.

However, I'm not Homer.
- Giroux_Is_God

Yea I would rather re-sign Carle and look to add a forward in UFA. Just saying, I wouldnt be surprised if Homer made that offer

On paper, I don't really like Voracek with Giroux either. As both are more playmaker then shooter. Preferably you would want a goal scorer in that spot. I'm just not crazy about overpaying for somebody like Ryan.
- MJL

You're right, but G and V should both shoot more. Anyone else notice how awesome G's one timers were in the playoffs.

Well that puts them at $5.5 mil in cap space, for all intents and purposes.

We have to squeeze Czech and Carle in for sure.

Can we even do that?? Ugh.

There goes Parise
- Giroux_Is_God

Why 5.5?

Just not at centre lol
- PootieTang

I think putting him at center will be a disaster. Let the kid get comfortable, then confident, then cocky.

He is still so young it is my opinion he just needs time.

Why 5.5?
- funmaster18

http://capgeek.com/index....ary_cap=%2464%2C324%2C224

That's with MJL'S adjusted cap. Unless I did this wrong...again.

In which case I'd be most dreadfully embarrassed...

I won't lie. I am a little down on Jake Voracek and I don't think the Flyers are through the moon over him either. it's not his play on the ice, it's having to re-sign him so soon after his last contract signing. The Flyers had a little trouble signing him one year ago and it's sounding like the Flyers might be having the same issues. Voracek had a very good season but it's not even his best of his 4 seasons in the NHL. Already this guy wants a 3rd raise.
- Schenn2shine

c'mon man, he signed a 1 year deal with hopes of getting a raise this year. he played well and i think he took a lil less then he thought was fair. i want a raise, you want a raise, why can't he?

so apparently worthless paul martin played in the playoffs with concussion symptoms #pengwineexcuses