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SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:25 PM ET
Can a "ref" on this site ban this guy already? I'm a good sport about how refs completely ignore the amount of bs that occur in my blog comments section, but this is getting out of hand.
- Maxbone


Poor guy
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:25 PM ET
Exactly, these kids are gonna be good but I don't see them being Malkin/Crosby good and won't get paid like it. I think the best comparable is Chicago where they signed Toews, Hossa, Sharp and Kane for about 22m.
- ALEDDO


Yeah, I agree with you. As a fan, ideally I want to see EDM's core mirrored like CHI or even per say PHI now, hey, maybe even LAK. They can all stay and EDM has to be smart on surrounding them with a good support cast, helping each other out.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:25 PM ET
overall, good blog clout. sorry to see you respond to the leafs fan though... it was overly obvious he was only crappin' out his mouth to get you to respond... oh... this is just a test by the way... poopzu!
- ChrisMS


Whatcha testing out? Hand-held device of some sort? iPad?
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:25 PM ET
Shocker.. A Leaf's failure chirp from a fan of the team who has picked first the last three seasons..
- SameOld


Unless you have something meaningful to say, you need to take a break from being a keyboard warrior and go have a freezie.

Clouts, I been reading your blogs for months now and really enjoy 'em, even when you poke fun at the Leafs (1 - it's easy to do, 2 - haven't we all done that). I'm in agreement with you about the D in the sense that their bruiser is gone; their top 4 is nice, but apart from Phaneuf, who makes the big hits? I don't think Komi is staying, he's a 6-7th rounder, probably cap space for a team needing it.

When I look at it, their D looks good but actually quite weenie. Hopefully Holzer changes that if he comes up.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:26 PM ET
That's exactly what I said eh. Pumping the Leaf's tires
- SameOld


Your missing the part where your trolling started it all, genius.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:27 PM ET
Unless you have something meaningful to say, you need to take a break from being a keyboard warrior and go have a freezie.

Clouts, I been reading your blogs for months now and really enjoy 'em, even when you poke fun at the Leafs (1 - it's easy to do, 2 - haven't we all done that). I'm in agreement with you about the D in the sense that their bruiser is gone; their top 4 is nice, but apart from Phaneuf, who makes the big hits? I don't think Komi is staying, he's a 6-7th rounder, probably cap space for a team needing it.

When I look at it, our D looks good but actually quite weenie. Hopefully Holzer changes that if he comes up.

- Conquest


One thing I wonder about Schultz is I've heard he doesn't shy away from physical play as much as you might think, considering he's only 183lbs. It would be very interesting to see how much a Schultz/Gardiner pairing could accomplish.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:27 PM ET
Hey hate to pile on EDM's problems here but why aren't more of you guys talking about finding a goalie? I think that should be the top priority even above Defenseman (not that those aren't crucially needed on this team either), but I think a reliable goalie would be step one into building a solid team. Just my input, not hating on the organization or anything, just tired of hearing bad news from them
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Whatcha testing out? Hand-held device of some sort? iPad?
- Maxbone



just figuring out the sensoring tool on the site. like... what do you call a bulldog mixed with a poopzu... a bullpoop!
Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Hey hate to pile on EDM's problems here but why aren't more of you guys talking about finding a goalie? I think that should be the top priority even above Defenseman (not that those aren't crucially needed on this team either), but I think a reliable goalie would be step one into building a solid team. Just my input, not hating on the organization or anything, just tired of hearing bad news from them
- TheJerseyDevil1



I think dubnyk is their guy. At least for now
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Haha yah you should give it a try and actually read what Cloutier wrote.. When talking about a forward for a Norris trophy type defenceman "I recommend you call Tambellini up this instant and insist we deal Eberle to the Penguins for Malkin."
- SameOld


.... Seriously? Lol is it tough for you to walk and talk at the same time? I'm not even gonna take the time and try to explain to you what a comparison is.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
Hey hate to pile on EDM's problems here but why aren't more of you guys talking about finding a goalie? I think that should be the top priority even above Defenseman (not that those aren't crucially needed on this team either), but I think a reliable goalie would be step one into building a solid team. Just my input, not hating on the organization or anything, just tired of hearing bad news from them
- TheJerseyDevil1


Dubnyk is still relatively unproven. As I've been saying for a while now, the Oilers aren't a playoff team next season and management knows it. Meaning, they can afford to put Dubnyk in the starting role for a season to see how he does before they make a decision to acquire a major talent.
-xXx-
Location: à la toilette des filles...
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
Shocker.. A Leaf's failure chirp from a fan of the team who has picked first the last three seasons..
- SameOld

Leafs will be only team to never make the playoffs from cba to cba to cba. They made history this year for not making the playoffs from cba to cba.
Barcs88
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
I'm losing confidence in Tambi by the day (there wasn't much there to start with).

After seeing top 4 dmen like Visnovsky and Michalek get traded away on draft day for picks and prospects, you're telling me the Oilers couldn't have offered better and still been ok as an organization? Please. Whatever question marks there are for those two players or similar ones, they would still really help the Oilers.

Tambi could have offered his own 2nd for Vis or somebody similar and rolled the dice that Moroz would still be around at 62. If they were determined to pick him, why on earth could they not have maximized value and either traded down the 2nd or traded up their 3rd to get him? Nobody else had him before the latter half of the second round AT MOST, I'm sure of that. We could have had Bystrom or Finn

Terrible, terrible job by Oilers management. Can't wait until Katz finally sees the light and fires them.

Fire Tambo
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
I'm losing confidence in Tambi by the day (there wasn't much there to start with).

After seeing top 4 dmen like Visnovsky and Michalek get traded away on draft day for picks and prospects, you're telling me the Oilers couldn't have offered better and still been ok as an organization? Please. Whatever question marks there are for those two players or similar ones, they would still really help the Oilers.

Tambi could have offered his own 2nd for Vis or somebody similar and rolled the dice that Moroz would still be around at 62. If they were determined to pick him, why on earth could they not have maximized value and either traded down the 2nd or traded up their 3rd to get him? Nobody else had him before the latter half of the second round AT MOST, I'm sure of that. We could have had Bystrom or Finn

Terrible, terrible job by Oilers management. Can't wait until Katz finally sees the light and fires them.

Fire Tambo

- Barcs88


The thing I always end up wondering is, how much of this is Tambellini, and how much of this is Lowe? Keep in mind how Tambellini got hired in the 1st place: Because Lowe had completely screwed up the team.
oilersrule05
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Goodyear, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
Problem is our managementis afraid of making a mistake like you said...unfortunately we can't remain in a perpetual rebuild year in and year out....the top 4 are untouchable but we have a number of assets that we can use...we have next years first round pick along with so many prospects that we can acquire someone solid on the d side...I suggested to a oilersnation blogger that I'd be willing to offer up next years first+ as a starting point for Yandle and he was no..if our managers are concerned about next years first rounder then we re already in trouble...A Yandle calibre dman along with say a Justin Shultz and a healthy Ryan Whitney and our defense will be drastically improved...

Keep in mind Whitney is fully healthy for the first time since his rookie season and I expect nothing short of a 40 point season...so Katz better tell these dunder heads to shape up and end this rebuild now or find new jobs... how long do we expect a competitor like Hall to want to play for non playoff team? If I don't see drastic attempts to land a solid Dman this off season ill be really disappointed and I'm sure our multi billionaire owner will to...
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
You're right, it shouldn't at all. It's just frustrating to see a joke like Cloutier (an absolute laughing stock) talking about things he knows nothing about.. It's the same as reading the paper and seeing reporter's comments on situations they can't fathom.

I know Cloutier reads every comment on every one of his blogs andI always feel the need to remind him he's a joke. A guy with no sources and no credibility. Just some brainless loser who can look up stats on google

- SameOld


What does that make you...?
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
I'm losing confidence in Tambi by the day (there wasn't much there to start with).

After seeing top 4 dmen like Visnovsky and Michalek get traded away on draft day for picks and prospects, you're telling me the Oilers couldn't have offered better and still been ok as an organization? Please. Whatever question marks there are for those two players or similar ones, they would still really help the Oilers.

Tambi could have offered his own 2nd for Vis or somebody similar and rolled the dice that Moroz would still be around at 62. If they were determined to pick him, why on earth could they not have maximized value and either traded down the 2nd or traded up their 3rd to get him? Nobody else had him before the latter half of the second round AT MOST, I'm sure of that. We could have had Bystrom or Finn

Terrible, terrible job by Oilers management. Can't wait until Katz finally sees the light and fires them.

Fire Tambo

- Barcs88


Ugh, don't even get me started with that Lubo nonsense, and the thing is it was the Islanders 2nd next year! We have two of those, we could have given them either one AND still gotten the guy they wanted.
TaterNuts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Tofino, BC
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
One thing I wonder about Schultz is I've heard he doesn't shy away from physical play as much as you might think, considering he's only 183lbs. It would be very interesting to see how much a Schultz/Gardiner pairing could accomplish.
- Maxbone


My understanding on the Schultz situation...

1) Becomes UFA on Monday
2) Will take offers until Wednesday
4) Will make decision soon after
Barcs88
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
The thing I always end up wondering is, how much of this is Tambellini, and how much of this is Lowe? Keep in mind how Tambellini got hired in the 1st place: Because Lowe had completely screwed up the team.
- Maxbone



I understand them not wanting to embarrass somebody who was a really good player for them back in the day, but hasn't it been obvious for a while that Lowe is just not doing a good job? When he was GM he ran us into the ground, and instead of firing him they decided to save face by promoting him. It hasn't helped. I'm sure that he has at least as much say as Tambellini in managing the team, if not more.

If they could fire (or let go, mutually separate, whatever) MacT when he was coach after being a member of the old guard then I don't see why they won't or shouldn't do that with Lowe.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
Can a "ref" on this site ban this guy already? I'm a good sport about how refs completely ignore the amount of bs that occur in my blog comments section, but this is getting out of hand.
- Maxbone

You silly wabbit, don't you know Leafs fans never get banned. They come troll the hell out of you till u defend your team, then u get banned/suspended. That's how things work around here.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
Haha love how you bring the Leafs into a blog that has nothing to do with the Leafs. Hey I get it, talking about the leafs brings hits and I hop on that right away. Good for you.

Cloutier you're a joke, You know absolutely nothing about hockey and have never played a competitive sport in your life. How do you write about something you've never been a part of? Not even in a little way because you would be the only guy to ever been cut from a house league team (remember we've seen you on facebook).

And on another note, when you say the big 4 are untouchable I think you're wrong. Hall is the talent that is going to bring an elite aka norris trophy type player back. He's more expendable than Eberle because he'll be wearing the 'C' in Edmonton for a long long time

- SameOld


I love how you bring the Oilers into your comments when you're just a Leafs fan.

You're a joke. You know absolutely nothing about hockey and have likely never played a competitive sport in your life. How do you write about something you've never been a part of? You're the only to never even make it to the house league "tryouts".

You see? It goes both ways.
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: And Tambellini Does...Nothing
- Maxbone

I was on here the other day stating that I could do a better job then Tambellini and was roasted by LongBottom (idiot) and Ruttager for saying it! Now that the Draft has come and gone and I was 100% against taking Murray 1st overall and would have taken Yak or Galenychuk. It is refreshing to see a thread where management is questioned. They way they run things is baffling to the point where other players see how they treat our players and wouldn't want to come here! So for the 2 above mentioned posters I stand by my statements in saying I GUARANTEE I couldn't do a worse job than current management and I am 99% certain I could do a better job!
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
Problem is our managementis afraid of making a mistake like you said...unfortunately we can't remain in a perpetual rebuild year in and year out....the top 4 are untouchable but we have a number of assets that we can use...we have next years first round pick along with so many prospects that we can acquire someone solid on the d side...I suggested to a oilersnation blogger that I'd be willing to offer up next years first+ as a starting point for Yandle and he was no..if our managers are concerned about next years first rounder then we re already in trouble...A Yandle calibre dman along with say a Justin Shultz and a healthy Ryan Whitney and our defense will be drastically improved...

Keep in mind Whitney is fully healthy for the first time since his rookie season and I expect nothing short of a 40 point season...so Katz better tell these dunder heads to shape up and end this rebuild now or find new jobs... how long do we expect a competitor like Hall to want to play for non playoff team? If I don't see drastic attempts to land a solid Dman this off season ill be really disappointed and I'm sure our multi billionaire owner will to...

- oilersrule05


I'm not going to say that the oilers should move one of their "big 4."
but I don't see anyone else on the team who could bring a top 2 d-man. and very little on the team that could bring a top four. gagner + a decent prospect might get you a top four... but not the replacement center you'd need. hemsky... until he proves he ain't made of glass isn't going to get you a top four... maybe him + a top quality d prospect (klefbom) not really worth it for the oilers. would be tough to trade 2013 first for immediate help as right now... 30 teams could make the playoffs... teams want help now. not saying you should ttrade one of the top 4... but it may be that or bust for a real top d man
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
What does that make you...?
- Fosco

A very lame punchline
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
would you guys do hemsky for sekera?

i dont even know what to think about that one...hemsky is always hurt but hes pretty solid offensively when hes actually playing

not sure if i do this one if im sabres management



but idk what do you guys think? when hemsky is healthy hes more valuable than sekera
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