Like you banned me for 4 months because I said the Oilers should trade their 2013 1st round pick so it does not look like a clown show to the fans and players. This shows everyone that the 1st overall bull crap ends ths season.
I may have also said you probably look like the "comic book guy" from the Simpsons. Your writing is so "try hard" its sad and its obvious your not "connected" in any way. Go run on a tread mill or take some learn to skate lessons because until you can prove you can skate their will always be whispers and doubters who laugh at your sense of self.
You must really be a fat loser eating cheesy poofs in your parents basement.
Signed,
A hockey fan. - jetsfan6
First of all, I don't "ban" anyone. I'm not a ref on this site. Furthermore, I don't have conversations with the refs. At times, I get annoyed with someone and voice my option, but I have nothing to do with the decisions made here.
But if I was a ref, I would ban you for this post. Why? Mostly because posts like these make the site look bad. On most websites with comments sections, pointless posts like yours, designed intentionally to get an angry reaction from a blogger and nothing more, gets you thrown out. When posts like this one are allowed to stay up and when posters like yourself are allowed to continue on the site, I question the quality of the refs, not the posters. It's a poor reflection on them, not on you, that you continue to be allowed to put comments here.
My assumption is, if you were banned for four months, you likely deserved it. You also likely insulted the blogger of the wrong team, which is a sad commentary when you think about it.
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares Joined: 08.02.2011
Jun 24 @ 3:15 AM ET
First of all, I don't "ban" anyone. I'm not a ref on this site. Furthermore, I don't have conversations with the refs. At times, I get annoyed with someone and voice my option, but I have nothing to do with the decisions made here.
But if I was a ref, I would ban you for this post. Why? Mostly because posts like these make the site look bad. On most websites with comments sections, pointless posts like yours, designed intentionally to get an angry reaction from a blogger and nothing more, gets you thrown out. When posts like this one are allowed to stay up and when posters like yourself are allowed to continue on the site, I question the quality of the refs, not the posters. It's a poor reflection on them, not on you, that you continue to be allowed to put comments here.
My assumption is, if you were banned for four months, you likely deserved it. You also likely insulted the blogger of the wrong team, which is a sad commentary when you think about it. - Maxbone
I hate you, but I love you, and I can't stop thinking of you, its true... *sings*
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
Jun 24 @ 3:22 AM ET
There are still a few Dmen options out there but things get quiet after the draft until after the first few days of July once teams who've missed out on UFA's revert to plan B's.
After Suter is gone then the UFA's are slim. Dennis freaking Wideman is the 2nd best option available then you're into Jason Garrison, Kurt Sauer, Matt Carle, Bryan Allen, Filip Kuba, Mark Eaton and Chris Campoli. A few of them would be useful but Tambs will be all "3 million a season? Hell no! I'll just sign Mike Mottau for league minimum instead! That'll do the trick!" Only option later is trade. Teams will be looking to trade for Hjalmarson, Montador, Ballard, and Martin.
Unless Michalek had some kind of an NTC in his contract then Tambs should have made the move for him. Would've been a great fit - DTF69
It is frustrating seeing Vis and Michalek go for so little and not even hear anything about the Oilers being in on them. It seems trade is the only option for improving now, as I can't see us landing Suter or Carle and the others are not much of an upgrade. Not that I put much stock in Ek, but Boyle would be a great guy for the Oilers, top pair pmd. I dont know what he would cost and if it would be worth it but it is worth a look.[/img]
It is frustrating seeing Vis and Michalek go for so little and not even hear anything about the Oilers being in on them. It seems trade is the only option for improving now, as I can't see us landing Suter or Carle and the others are not much of an upgrade. Not that I put much stock in Ek, but Boyle would be a great guy for the Oilers, top pair pmd. I dont know what he would cost and if it would be worth it but it is worth a look. - abware[/img]
I think we didn't hear about Vis coming to Edmonton because I don't think he would have came back. The Oilers and Lubo didn't part very happily, if I remember that situation correctly.
As far as Michalek goes, I have no idea. I think the problem is, Tambellini doesn't want to give up anything. Either he knows something we don't about the upcoming free agent period, or he's just too big of a chicken to pull the pin on a deal that would move a Paajarvi-type prospect. Obviously Hemsky doesn't have enough trade value to make fetch happen.
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
Jun 24 @ 3:38 AM ET
I think we didn't hear about Vis coming to Edmonton because I don't think he would have came back. The Oilers and Lubo didn't part very happily, if I remember that situation correctly.
As far as Michalek goes, I have no idea. I think the problem is, Tambellini doesn't want to give up anything. Either he knows something we don't about the upcoming free agent period, or he's just too big of a chicken to pull the pin on a deal that would move a Paajarvi-type prospect. Obviously Hemsky doesn't have enough trade value to make fetch happen. - Maxbone
I just hope we don't end up with a cap dump 2nd or 3rd pairing guy(martin/komisarik) and Tambi thinks that is enough. Even IF we land Schultz I think we still need a bonifide top pairing Pmd.
I just hope we don't end up with a cap dump 2nd or 3rd pairing guy(martin/komisarik) and Tambi thinks that is enough. Even IF we land Schultz I think we still need a bonifide top pairing Pmd. - abware
The message from the draft for Oilers fans is, there's no way to acquire a top pairing guy in a deal without giving up one of Eberle, Hall, Nuge or Yakupov.
The good news is, Eberle, Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will all be calling Justin Schultz in about 24 hours to start twisting his arm. I am fairly confident he'll become an Oiler on July 1st. When you think about it, landing Schultz is almost like the Oilers drafting two #1 picks in the same year. He's that good.
Smid/Petry is a decent pairing. It's possible Whitney/J.Schultz could work. I am a fan of Marc Methot, and I think the Oilers could get him for very little...maybe the 2nd round pick next year the Oilers got as part of the Andrew Cogliano deal. A Methot/N.Schultz pairing would provide decent shutdown minutes.
If Justin Schultz doesn't happen, Tambellini is going to be fighting for his life to acquire someone like Ryan Suter or Matt Carle. I have no idea how this turns out well for Edmonton.
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB Joined: 01.28.2011
Jun 24 @ 3:55 AM ET
The message from the draft for Oilers fans is, there's no way to acquire a top pairing guy without giving up one of Eberle, Hall, Nuge or Yakupov.
The good news is, Eberle, Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will all be calling Justin Schultz in about 24 hours to start twisting his arm. I am fairly confident he'll become an Oiler on July 1st. When you think about it, landing Schultz is almost like the Oilers drafting two #1 picks in the same year. He's that good.
Smid/Petry is a decent pairing. It's possible Whitney/J.Schultz could work. I am a fan of Marc Methot, and I think the Oilers could get him for very little...maybe the 2nd round pick next year the Oilers got as part of the Andrew Cogliano deal. A Methot/N.Schultz pairing would provide decent shutdown minutes.
If Justin Schultz doesn't happen, Tambellini is going to be fighting for his life to acquire someone like Ryan Suter or Matt Carle. I have no idea how this turns out well for Edmonton. - Maxbone
Agree!! Oilers are looking at Methot as well! I would do a Methot, Nash for Hemmer, Omark, MPS, Horcoff and next years 1st! If possible!
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB Joined: 01.28.2011
Jun 24 @ 4:07 AM ET
The message from the draft for Oilers fans is, there's no way to acquire a top pairing guy in a deal without giving up one of Eberle, Hall, Nuge or Yakupov.
The good news is, Eberle, Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will all be calling Justin Schultz in about 24 hours to start twisting his arm. I am fairly confident he'll become an Oiler on July 1st. When you think about it, landing Schultz is almost like the Oilers drafting two #1 picks in the same year. He's that good.
Smid/Petry is a decent pairing. It's possible Whitney/J.Schultz could work. I am a fan of Marc Methot, and I think the Oilers could get him for very little...maybe the 2nd round pick next year the Oilers got as part of the Andrew Cogliano deal. A Methot/N.Schultz pairing would provide decent shutdown minutes.
If Justin Schultz doesn't happen, Tambellini is going to be fighting for his life to acquire someone like Ryan Suter or Matt Carle. I have no idea how this turns out well for Edmonton. - Maxbone
As much as I would love JayBo, that Lubo deal I think plummeted the value Feaster is gonna get for him. They had very comparable years stats wise but Lubo I believe had a MUCH better +/- and has a better cap hit. The only thing going for JayBo is his age but I don't see Feaster getting a first rounder back for him and I don't think he wants to give him to us for lets say a 2nd rounder and one or two small pieces ie. a Rieder or Marincin. - ALEDDO
You know that Feaster will charge extra to trade J.Bo to Edmonton (a first round pick next year and a mid range prospect or he might do Gagner and a mid range prospect. I say pay the premium. J.Bo is one of the few Dmen that can skate with the kids. He can back up a run and gun style of play and he has the wheels to join in on the rush and still get back on D. The kids needs to start to win or they will begin to feel discouraged. Now is the time to put something on the blue line that will allow everyone up front to get so much better. Just imagine the difference if you have a lead Dman who establish the drill for getting the puck out of your own end and unto the stick of the attacking forward.
IF...a big if the right deal wasn't there then no move might have been the best move. I'd think everyone out there with a spare D-man knows the Oilers need and to quote Tamby...."it would have to be an overpayment"...just not the first this time...but for D. So you grow your own, and the seeds have been planted.
Ok...time to shake it up...NOW is the time :D But only forwards today...Plus if you look what positions these guys played in junior, it looks like the Oilers organization transformed a few into something they never were...time to fix it while you mash things up.
First line: Hall Eberle Yakupov
When Eberle was drafted, he was playing center in Regina. He's responsible in both ends
Second line: Hemsky RNH Jagr
If the "rumors" are to be believed as reported by Eklund Jagr wants to play top six minutes...here is his chance and to do so with Hemsky and to be a guy to teach these kids what it means to be an allstar player. Hemsky plays on his off wing so moving him to LW and getting him the hell away from Horcoff might revitalize his play.
Third line: MPS Horcoff Jones
MPS either shows he can play physical and be heir apparent to move to second line in a year or so after Jagr is done or he plays himself off the team in favor of a hungrier player. With Jones banging on the other side and Horcoff playing the role as third line center that he should be playing could be a fairly good line. Jones was drafted as a forward, not specifying LW or RW. In junior he played RW.
Fourth line: Petrell Hartikainen Laraque
Before you flame me repeatedly, big Georges gets a try out here. He's penciled in and only makes it if he passed the smell test prior to final cuts at the end of training camp. Hartikainen was drafted as a center. He was moved to wing.
So who is missing?
Gagner, Smyth, Omark, Hordichuck
Gagner is packaged along with picks (2013) and/or Pitlick, Lander or Hamilton. These guys suffer from Marc Habscheid syndrome, as did Miro Satan. They are not going to be better than the guys they need to replace so if you can package them you drop your number of contracts and perhaps pick up a Yandle if the rumors that the yotes are interested in Gagner.
Smyth? If you gotta pick between giving a spot to Jagr (if you can land him) or Smyth...
Omark dreaming of making great youtube videos in Europe...perhaps you can do a duet with Robbie Schremp.
Hordichuck...nuff said.
What really shocked me were the number of players not playing the positions that led to their being drafted in the first place!
The message from the draft for Oilers fans is, there's no way to acquire a top pairing guy in a deal without giving up one of Eberle, Hall, Nuge or Yakupov.
The good news is, Eberle, Hall, Nuge and Yakupov will all be calling Justin Schultz in about 24 hours to start twisting his arm. I am fairly confident he'll become an Oiler on July 1st. When you think about it, landing Schultz is almost like the Oilers drafting two #1 picks in the same year. He's that good.
Smid/Petry is a decent pairing. It's possible Whitney/J.Schultz could work. I am a fan of Marc Methot, and I think the Oilers could get him for very little...maybe the 2nd round pick next year the Oilers got as part of the Andrew Cogliano deal. A Methot/N.Schultz pairing would provide decent shutdown minutes.
If Justin Schultz doesn't happen, Tambellini is going to be fighting for his life to acquire someone like Ryan Suter or Matt Carle. I have no idea how this turns out well for Edmonton. - Maxbone
I see Oilers having the elite talent, obviously, and then having virtually nothing interesting below that talent. It makes it difficult to trade.
Honestly, I look from a Leafs fan perspective and let's say I am offering up a Dman. My problem isn't which one am I offering. My problem is that there is no one I want from the Oilers. I guess Gagner would be the best bet, but he doesn't fit anywhere. He also appears to have far less trade value than what is generally assumed here. Maybe Hemsky, but the cost and injury situation has to be a concern.
I think Edmonton needs to ride this one out a bit. I believe they will steadily get better each year. This coming year they may have a big jump if the big 3 stay healthy.
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Jun 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
There are still a few Dmen options out there but things get quiet after the draft until after the first few days of July once teams who've missed out on UFA's revert to plan B's.
After Suter is gone then the UFA's are slim. Dennis freaking Wideman is the 2nd best option available then you're into Jason Garrison, Kurt Sauer, Matt Carle, Bryan Allen, Filip Kuba, Mark Eaton and Chris Campoli. A few of them would be useful but Tambs will be all "3 million a season? Hell no! I'll just sign Mike Mottau for league minimum instead! That'll do the trick!" Only option later is trade. Teams will be looking to trade for Hjalmarson, Montador, Ballard, and Martin.
Unless Michalek had some kind of an NTC in his contract then Tambs should have made the move for him. Would've been a great fit - DTF69
I think Pittsburgh has cleared the cap they wanted to clear. Not saying they wouldn't trade Martin, but I don't think they're actively looking to trade him anymore (imo, they chose him over Mihalek). On the other hand, I'd add Yandle to that list, because as great as the cost would be, it was actually reported on TSN so it is floating around there somewhere.
(quoted from the blog)
The Oilers might go find a backup (would it be ridiculous to suggest they deal for Steve Mason to see if they can revive his career?) (end quote)
First of all, I don't "ban" anyone. I'm not a ref on this site. Furthermore, I don't have conversations with the refs. At times, I get annoyed with someone and voice my option, but I have nothing to do with the decisions made here.
But if I was a ref, I would ban you for this post. Why? Mostly because posts like these make the site look bad. On most websites with comments sections, pointless posts like yours, designed intentionally to get an angry reaction from a blogger and nothing more, gets you thrown out. When posts like this one are allowed to stay up and when posters like yourself are allowed to continue on the site, I question the quality of the refs, not the posters. It's a poor reflection on them, not on you, that you continue to be allowed to put comments here.
My assumption is, if you were banned for four months, you likely deserved it. You also likely insulted the blogger of the wrong team, which is a sad commentary when you think about it. - Maxbone
Don't sweat it Clouts... even cowards need to feel tough somehow, and when you're 12 years old you can't buy a pickup truck and yell obscenities at pedestrians as you drive by them, so, unfortunately, this is how the kid compensates for being stuffed in lockers on a daily basis. Reading him sucks, but not as much as being him would suck.
You know that Feaster will charge extra to trade J.Bo to Edmonton (a first round pick next year and a mid range prospect or he might do Gagner and a mid range prospect. I say pay the premium. J.Bo is one of the few Dmen that can skate with the kids. He can back up a run and gun style of play and he has the wheels to join in on the rush and still get back on D. The kids needs to start to win or they will begin to feel discouraged. Now is the time to put something on the blue line that will allow everyone up front to get so much better. Just imagine the difference if you have a lead Dman who establish the drill for getting the puck out of your own end and unto the stick of the attacking forward. - spatso
I cannot -1 this idea enough. JBo is already one of the most overpaid men in the league - let's overpay to get him! Even better, let's overpay to our most bitter rival! Ugh, I'd rather sell the farm for Phaneuf, or get mr "sincerely, a hockey fan" to play D for us! Yuck yuck awful blaugh! Say "no" to JB(l)o(ws)!
If we're going to do something THIS reckless to improve our D, we're better off waiting a year or two then dealing whichever of our glass cannons seem least likely to give us a hometown discount and bring in an actual factual #1 Dman, not a good-but-not-great 2nd pairing man being paid like a #1.
I know we'd all like to get better this year, but we can hope that if we don't improve this year Lowe and Tambi will be fired, and that would almost be worth it to me.
I see Oilers having the elite talent, obviously, and then having virtually nothing interesting below that talent. It makes it difficult to trade.
Honestly, I look from a Leafs fan perspective and let's say I am offering up a Dman. My problem isn't which one am I offering. My problem is that there is no one I want from the Oilers. I guess Gagner would be the best bet, but he doesn't fit anywhere. He also appears to have far less trade value than what is generally assumed here. Maybe Hemsky, but the cost and injury situation has to be a concern.
I think Edmonton needs to ride this one out a bit. I believe they will steadily get better each year. This coming year they may have a big jump if the big 3 stay healthy. - GoneFullRetard
And outside of 1 year wonder gardiner there is not much we would want from the laughs either but thanks for ur valued opinion...
And outside of 1 year wonder gardiner there is not much we would want from the laughs either but thanks for ur valued opinion... - saskoil21
...um... Franson? Puck moving d-man who shoots right?
That guy was offering his opinion, not trolling us. The bile and rancor should probably be reserved for, I dunno, people who deserve it?
Agree!! Oilers are looking at Methot as well! I would do a Methot, Nash for Hemmer, Omark, MPS, Horcoff and next years 1st! If possible! - undisputed_8821
This offer won`t be good enough to get Nash and Methot...
No one wants Hemsky, Omark has zero trade value, I really like MPS -he`s young and has loads of potential, and Horcoff has zero trade value...
So you give up 2 guys with zero trade value, Hemsky, MPS and a 1st...nope...
There was rumous that Howson turned down Pavelski, Clowe, Demers and a 1st...that offer is significantly better than what you offered.
To get Nash, one of the big 4 would have to go...and thats is Nash would waive his NTC for the Oil...
Question though...how do you expect to trade for a top4 d-man without giving up a top6 forward...
And outside of 1 year wonder gardiner there is not much we would want from the laughs either but thanks for ur valued opinion... - saskoil21
Ummm...Gardiner has only played one year...
Can you see into the future where you know he will only be a one year wonder...cause if you do give me next week`s lottery numbers
And as another Oil fan said...Franson would be a great fit for the Oil, puck moving d-man that shoots right...
Liles wouldn`t be bad either, but he is older...
This offer won`t be good enough to get Nash and Methot...
No one wants Hemsky, Omark has zero trade value, I really like MPS -he`s young and has loads of potential, and Horcoff has zero trade value...
So you give up 2 guys with zero trade value, Hemsky, MPS and a 1st...nope...
There was rumous that Howson turned down Pavelski, Clowe, Demers and a 1st...that offer is significantly better than what you offered.
To get Nash, one of the big 4 would have to go...and thats is Nash would waive his NTC for the Oil...
Question though...how do you expect to trade for a top4 d-man without giving up a top6 forward... - BoBBeR56
I am willing to say that those rumours are bull. Even if Columbus didnt like those players, they could flip them for relatively big returns elsewhere.
