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BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:30 PM ET
Who says Schenn is going to play 10 minutes a night. Cap space isn't an issue. There is also a chance that Timonen isn't ready to start the Season.
- MJL


Bill seems to think there is a pretty good chance Kimmo isn't ready to go by game 1. I wouldn't move a d-man unless we're getting another one back in the deal.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:30 PM ET
No way they get seth jones he projected no1or 2 with Nathan mckinnoN
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:30 PM ET
nyr are not resigning prust? hed be a good flyer
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
Whos to say they dont resign Carle and move another defenseman out? The Flyers have plenty of money to bring Carle back. I actually hope they keep all the defenseman. Helps to limit all the defenseman minutes when your that balanced.
- stveshdy


Well yes ok if they sign Carle and move one out, well then that's different, but signing Carle and keeping all 6 plus Bryzgalov is a lot of $$$ behind your blue line

$32 million??? As well as getting a back up goalie

I would like a righting upgrade instead of all that $ on D
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
No way they get seth jones he projected no1or 2 with Nathan mckinnoN
- griouxmvp2012

never say noway bro
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
nyr are not resigning prust? hed be a good flyer
- mydoglicks



That makes no sense

Great role player
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
I like the trade jvr has all the talent in the world but he doesn't put it to use he seems kinda lazy to me like he turns it on when he wants to
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
Well yes ok if they sign Carle and move one out, well then that's different, but signing Carle and keeping all 6 plus Bryzgalov is a lot of $$$ behind your blue line

$32 million??? As well as getting a back up goalie

I would like a righting upgrade instead of all that $ on D

- puckhead17


When you think about it the Flyers will be losing Timonen next year. I would keep all 6 guys if possible. Getting that 6M+ back after next year to upgrade a forward position. Flyers still have money to upgrade their offense this offseason as well.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
never say noway bro
- Crimsoninja

I know but think of what it would take to get the 1st or 2nd pick unless they totally blow this year
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
never say noway bro
- Crimsoninja


I'd think right now anyway it's too early but Seth Jones is one that's already highly thought of for 2013

I'll say it now to make a move up in that draft will be pretty steep.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
Bill seems to think there is a pretty good chance Kimmo isn't ready to go by game 1. I wouldn't move a d-man unless we're getting another one back in the deal.
- BringBack25


Kimmo not ready. Well then that may explain it, then if he's out ok
We will have 5 top guys ready with the trade then if he's out
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
I'd think right now anyway it's too early but Seth Jones is one that's already highly thought of for 2013

I'll say it now to make a move up in that draft will be pretty steep.

- ob18


Did I black out and miss the Season? What happened? How'd we do!
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
Did I black out and miss the Season? What happened? How'd we do!
- MJL


Toronto beat the Blue Jackets in the Finals. Flyers finished 4th in East, lost to Pitt in round 1. :/
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
That makes no sense

Great role player

- puckhead17


hes like talbot but bigger and can fight
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
When you think about it the Flyers will be losing Timonen next year. I would keep all 6 guys if possible. Getting that 6M+ back after next year to upgrade a forward position. Flyers still have money to upgrade their offense this offseason as well.
- stveshdy


I love Hartnell and he was awesome last year, but I don't see him scoring 37 goals again. I know we have 3 line forward depth and all, but I would like a natural scoring winger someplace in this lineup.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
Yes, seriously. Because you need a blend of defenseman, and the right mix. And you need that puck moving offensive defenseman. All signs point to Carle being re-signed.
- MJL



I agree Carle comes back. Not to mention Kimmo's $6.3 million comes off the books next season. I think this move helps the team 'this' season (by adding more depth for injuries, reduced minutes) and puts us in a good position with Kimmo's $ if a player like Weber is an available UFA next season. Grossmann, Carle, Schenn, Coburn would be locked up for 3 more seasons at reasonable contracts and Mez would be a tradable asset with 1 season left. jmo.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
I love Hartnell and he was awesome last year, but I don't see him scoring 37 goals again. I know we have 3 line forward depth and all, but I would like a natural scoring winger someplace in this lineup.
- puckhead17


They could go after Parise.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 10:39 PM ET
Did I black out and miss the Season? What happened? How'd we do!
- MJL


Passing the time, nothing wrong with it, these are names they'll likely never have a shot at anyway
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
Flyers simply cannot afford to trade any more pieces, unless it's a pick. Bob was our main "chip" that we could afford to trade. JVR wasn't quite a "chip", but we were able to bolster our defense.

Now we have to replace JVR and Jagr (potentially).
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
Flyers simply cannot afford to trade any more pieces, unless it's a pick. Bob was our main "chip" that we could afford to trade. JVR wasn't quite a "chip", but we were able to bolster our defense.

Now we have to replace JVR and Jagr (potentially).

- steelydan


I think your going to see more minutes from Read, Simmonds, Schenn, Voracek and Couturier.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
Here's the thing...

If JVR does not improve one bit from his current level of play, he is still a top 6 forward who will score 20-25 goals.

If Luke Schenn does not improve one bit from his current level of play, he's a 5/6 defenseman that will have trouble staying in the lineup on a team that plays an up tempo style.

Not equal value if nothing changes.

Obviously the Flyers think he'll improve, and in a few years this will seem like a fair deal. But right now, the players are not equal. I think that's what is bothering a lot of folks about this deal. Just have to hope the Flyers are right about what the future holds.

- BringBack25

that's my read
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
Flyers simply cannot afford to trade any more pieces, unless it's a pick. Bob was our main "chip" that we could afford to trade. JVR wasn't quite a "chip", but we were able to bolster our defense.

Now we have to replace JVR and Jagr (potentially).

- steelydan



Harts. G. Voracek

Read. Briere. Schenn

Talbot. Coots. Simmonds



Easy to upgrade winger now and drop Read and Talbot.


But who?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
Harts. G. Voracek

Read. Briere. Schenn

Talbot. Coots. Simmonds



Easy to upgrade winger now and drop Read and Talbot.


But who?

- Daman


I hope they try and make a run for Parise. Your boy!
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
They could go after Parise.
- stveshdy


Yeh if the cap goes up another $5 million

It's said he may go to the Wild, they are making a huge offer July 1st to him
Per Lou Nanne who knows there owner.

One he will have trouble turning down so they say
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 23 @ 10:48 PM ET
I hope they try and make a run for Parise. Your boy!
- stveshdy




My boy but I did predict Flyers would have no shot.
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