Strengthen one area, weakened another
- MJL

Offense was not an issue for this team imo. They get a physical defenseman and a player who blocks a ton of shots. He can also move the puck and hes a young kid with experience. Homer has more moves coming.

Remember the Detroit theory that we followed?

Stock up on D. & use a crappy goalie. (Leighton)

We had Kimmo.(for another year), Mez. Coburn. Grossmann. & possibly Carle staying, I thought we were ok (if we sign carle) as again, now we're paying $5 million to a top goalie, do we require spending more $ on D?
This surely means Carle is gone so "did we improve out team"? Same as last summer, I don't think anyone really knows

Does our up and down style fit Schenn's stay at home style?
- puckhead17

You think Carle is not coming back?

Don't disagree. Was simply stating why I believe some fans are not happy with the deal.

Then you also have the crowd that thinks since JVR hasn't been Patrick Kane 2.0 he's a failure and sucks. So they're thrilled I would imagine.

Lastly, I think the aspect to this that nobody is considering is the impact this deal could have on re-signing Matt Carle. With JVR gone, if Carle re-signs he would be the sole whipping boy without JVR there to share that duty. One could reasonably expect him to demand more money to offset the pain and suffering the Flyers largely irrational and hockey-illiterate fan base can dole out over the course of a season. This could be a serious impediment to any new deal.
- BringBack25

I believe that Carle will be signed July 1st.

Offense was not an issue for this team imo. They get a physical defenseman and a player who blocks a ton of shots. He can also move the puck and hes a young kid with experience. Homer has more moves coming.
- stveshdy

Doesn't mean they didn't weaken the forward ranks by trading JVR.

Strengthen one area, weakened another
- MJL

They'll trade up into the top 5 maybe even top 3 to draft Ottawa 67's forward Sean Monahan in the 2013 entry draft.

Remember the Detroit theory that we followed?

Stock up on D. & use a crappy goalie. (Leighton)

We had Kimmo.(for another year), Mez. Coburn. Grossmann. & possibly Carle staying, I thought we were ok (if we sign carle) as again, now we're paying $5 million to a top goalie, do we require spending more $ on D?
This surely means Carle is gone so "did we improve out team"? Same as last summer, I don't think anyone really knows

Does our up and down style fit Schenn's stay at home style?
- puckhead17

Schenn is an upgrade to what the Flyers previously had. JvR basically didnt play last season and this team was still in the Top 2 in scoring. Schenn is a big defenseman whos physical and blocks a ton of shots. Hes still a young kid and the Flyers defense looks better with him on it.

They'll trade up into the top 5 maybe even top 3 to draft Ottawa 67's forward Sean Monahan in the 2013 entry draft.
- ob18

seth jones

You think Carle is not coming back?
- MJL

Seriously?? Now??

No, with what $$? We have a top notch $5 million a year goalie, why would we need another defenseman?

Kimmo $6.3
Coburn $4.5
Mez $4
Grossmann $3.5
Schenn $3.6
Carle $4.8??????

$32 million or so behind your blue line?

Doesn't mean they didn't weaken the forward ranks by trading JVR.
- MJL

JvR didnt play last year and this team still produced offensively. They need to upgrade the defense and they did today. Physical yound kid who blocks shots and can move the puck.

Seriously?? Now??

No, with what $$? We have a top notch $5 million a year goalie, why would we need another defenseman?

Kimmo $6.3
Coburn $4.5
Mez $4
Grossmann $3.5
Schenn $3.6
Carle $4.8??????
- puckhead17

Flyers have money to sign Carle. He should be priority #1 imo.

seth jones
- Crimsoninja

Very good choice sir.

Sadly he's in the WHL & I'm not flying to Portland to see him play. I've seen Sean Monahan already & is easier with a 7 hour drive.

Plus we don't draft d-men that high & we'll need to replace the lost JVR scoring.

Seriously?? Now??

No, with what $$? We have a top notch $5 million a year goalie, why would we need another defenseman?

Kimmo $6.3
Coburn $4.5
Mez $4
Grossmann $3.5
Schenn $3.6
Carle $4.8??????
- puckhead17

Yes, seriously. Because you need a blend of defenseman, and the right mix. And you need that puck moving offensive defenseman. All signs point to Carle being re-signed.

Yes, seriously. Because you need a blend of defenseman, and the right mix. And you need that puck moving offensive defenseman. All signs point to Carle being re-signed.
- MJL

I agree. Carle is going to be back come July 1st.

JvR didnt play last year and this team still produced offensively. They need to upgrade the defense and they did today. Physical yound kid who blocks shots and can move the puck.
- stveshdy

Still it doesn't mean they didn't weaken the Forward ranks. They did. And they did upgrade the defensem

Flyers have money to sign Carle. He should be priority #1 imo.
- stveshdy

You paying a number 6 D man $3.5 million to play 10 minutes a night?

We need to reup voracek as well as maybe a piece or 2 here and there.

That's a lot of $$$ for defensemen while paying a "great" goalie

Still it doesn't mean they didn't weaken the Forward ranks. They did. And they did upgrade the defensem
- MJL

The Flyers have a lot of young forwards looking to expand their roles next year. The defense is priority #1 during the offseason. Homer has upgraded that area by adding Schenn. Not saying they didnt weaken the offense but they still produced without JvR this year.

You paying a number 6 D man $3.5 million to play 10 minutes a night?

We need to reup voracek as well as maybe a piece or 2 here and there.

That's a lot of $$$ for defensemen while paying a "great" goalie
- puckhead17

seems like a good chance that another dman is gonna be moved out if/when they sign matty c.

I agree. Carle is going to be back come July 1st.
- stveshdy

Aren't we in the running for a top dman still? Should we forget carley and go balls out for suter now?

You paying a number 6 D man $3.5 million to play 10 minutes a night?

We need to reup voracek as well as maybe a piece or 2 here and there.

That's a lot of $$$ for defensemen while paying a "great" goalie
- puckhead17

Just a guess but they'd probably like to spread the minutes out as often as possible. Plus we don't have when Kimmo will be good to go from his off-season surgeries I'd imagine they will not rush him to make the season opener.

You paying a number 6 D man $3.5 million to play 10 minutes a night?

We need to reup voracek as well as maybe a piece or 2 here and there.

That's a lot of $$$ for defensemen while paying a "great" goalie
- puckhead17

Whos to say they dont resign Carle and move another defenseman out? The Flyers have plenty of money to bring Carle back. I actually hope they keep all the defenseman. Helps to limit all the defenseman minutes when your that balanced.

You paying a number 6 D man $3.5 million to play 10 minutes a night?

We need to reup voracek as well as maybe a piece or 2 here and there.

That's a lot of $$$ for defensemen while paying a "great" goalie
- puckhead17

Who says Schenn is going to play 10 minutes a night. Cap space isn't an issue. There is also a chance that Timonen isn't ready to start the Season.

seems like a good chance that another dman is gonna be moved out if/when they sign matty c.
- Crimsoninja

I think you're right. Now we need a forward.

seems like a good chance that another dman is gonna be moved out if/when they sign matty c.
- Crimsoninja

Even having Kimmo for one more year still that seems a little D heavy if they keep Carle. I would like 5 top D men and maybe trying for an upgrade at right wing instead (for Giroux's line)

Here's an interesting whacked out of left field thought. Nashville would want a good young defenseman as part of the return for a deal for Weber!

Even having Kimmo for one more year still that seems a little D heavy if they keep Carle. I would like 5 top D men and maybe trying for an upgrade at right wing instead (for Giroux's line)
- puckhead17

They can still get that upgrade with the 6 D men.