JJ

IMHO
Nash for Kane straight up I wouldn't do it. The difference in age is the biggest issue I see. Nash is almost 5 years older.
In an expanded deal getting a young Brassard also, then I would do it!

Kane + Hjalmarsson for Brassard and Nash

I would still prefer trading Kane for younger on the cusp very good players between 20-25 years old.

Thanks
- jimmy33

Ill drive 88 and 4 to the airport.

For reply to DaleHalas on previous blog entry.

Concerning Campbell, all i am saying if they were going to move Campbell, do it during the 2010-1 season when you really needed cap space.

btw, SB is always looking for the better end of a trade, that is why Campbell and Huet were not moved sooner or us picking up more help at the deadline last year. We need face-off help, and we got diddly. Oduya was a decent pick up but sucked in the playoffs. I am not sure if he is the answer going forward.

And your cap space theory move, it is one way to look at it. But how did it work out last year. We still ended up with Montador and/or Leddy playing trying to fill shoes of Campbell. And we still ended up with OD and Lepisto and Scott trying to fill those bottom 5,6,and 7 spots.

I would take Nash's contract in a second. Sure, it's a big contract, however, unlike Kane, Rick Nash is a serious player looking to always improve which means his value will always be there and you'd get your value back if you need to move him later. IMHO.

60 goals? Donno about that... I think if he played on the same line as Toews he would be a 40 goal scorer,possibly 50 if they could get their act together on the PP..and an 80-90 point player
- captainserious

Never going to happen without a bonafide point shooter.

+1

Good Morning Captain
- Ogilthorpe2

Morning Ogi!! How's it going? Who do you have the Hawks taking tonight in the draft?

Ill drive 88 and 4 to the airport.
- nickmo2699

+1

Never going to happen with out a bonafide point shooter.
- Return of the Roar

Well that is what free agency and trades are for..besides the year before they were a top 5 PP the league without a bonafide point shooter..I think it is more in their heads than overall skill level..but inagree with you,a good shot from the point would help the cause

It's funny how Howson wanted a kings ransom for Nash at the trade deadline and wouldn't pull the trigger on some reported offers, and now is desperate to get teams back involved. He's an idiot.

He shot himself in the foot thinking he could get more this summer, when now he just lost his leverage.

Well that is what free agency and trades are for..besides the year before they were a top 5 PP the league without a bonafide point shooter..I think it is more in their heads than overall skill level..but inagree with you,a good poop from the point would help the cause
- captainserious

Garrison.....

Never going to happen without a bonafide point shooter.
- Return of the Roar

Who was the point shooter during the cup year? I think he is still on this team, he just needs to remember not to hit shin pads. I think Nash could do wonders for the PP, imagine a few more players who aren't satisfied playing around with the puck on the outside. Nash will help, not cure but will help a lot.

Who was the point shooter during the cup year? I think he is still on this team, he just needs to remember not to hit shin pads. I think Nash could do wonders for the PP, imagine a few more players who aren't satisfied playing around with the puck on the outside. Nash will help, not cure but will help a lot.
- droe411

The game has changed since then - much more physical and lots of boxing out down low to stop the finesse only teams (read: Hawks) from using a perimeter game on the PP.

Will be just like the trade deadline all this hype leading up to it and very little happening with exception of draft picks being moved around. Most teams will wait until free agency starts to address their needs and make trades as the dominos start to fall. Bowman doesn't have the STONES to make a major deal...... NO way Hawks move Kane for Nash and take on another HOSSA like contract.
- DeepThreat

Not the same kinda contract

Hossa's contract goes from tail end of prime to end of prime to old

Nash's contract goes from prime to end of prime (in 6 years hell be 34 pretty ideal for his durability and the type of player he is)

Garrison.....
- Return of the Roar

I am typing on my iphone,and obviously i have quite anfew typo's especially when o am riding the bus home,so i accidently typed sh*t insteD of shot,and then it changed it automatically to poop

Morning Ogi!! How's it going? Who do you have the Hawks taking tonight in the draft?
- captainserious

Unless a "can't miss" D-man unexpectedly falls to 18, I think they have to go G. Russians scare me though, so I'm not positive which of the big three I'd pick if they're all still there.

What I would really like to see is Stan trade #18 to Minny for Matthew Hackett, or some similar deal. Try and turn that #18 into something a little closer to an NHL ready player.

Who was the point shooter during the cup year? I think he is still on this team, he just needs to remember not to hit shin pads. I think Nash could do wonders for the PP, imagine a few more players who aren't satisfied playing around with the puck on the outside. Nash will help, not cure but will help a lot.
- droe411

hell yes

Gotcha! Any rumblings on who the Hawks pick tonight? I know you said yesterday you had a hunch it would be Vasilevski(Would love for them to draft him) was that just a gut feeling,or some rumblings from your sources?
- captainserious

Have heard nothing on their pick.

I'll just say this: Vasilevski is so good, he would not only be the goalie of the future, but possibly the very near future. I get the whole "will e come or won't he" thing, but honestly, if he's in Pittsburgh tonight, he wants to play in the nHL.

Usually that issue with Russians has to do with them having to spend time in the minors. He won't have to, or not for long.

JJ

IMHO
Nash for Kane straight up I wouldn't do it. The difference in age is the biggest issue I see. Nash is almost 5 years older.
In an expanded deal getting a young Brassard also, then I would do it!

Kane + Hjalmarsson for Brassard and Nash

I would still prefer trading Kane for younger on the cusp very good players between 20-25 years old.

Thanks
- jimmy33

I agree about getting 2 young, tough and skilled guys for Kane. We would probably have to add to it, though. But the hawks need about 3 young skilled guys with grit to add to Toews, Sharp, and Hossa. We lack the right players to win the Cup the way the league is now. You need the proper mix. We have too much money wrapped up in the top 4 that have shown they can't carry the Hawks. We need the right compliment of players. Kane can bring that. Plus I would do the talked about hammer and stalberg for Foligno and smith deal

The game has changed since then - much more physical and lots of boxing out down low to stop the finesse only teams (read: Hawks) from using a perimeter game on the PP.
- Return of the Roar

What I am saying is a few more big bodied forwards can do a lot of damage. The game hasn't changed that much, the players the Hawks throw out there has changed. Buff, Ladd, Brow that's what changed. Nash would do wonders for this team in regards to the PP. While I say that I don't mean they would be top 5 in PP, but they wouldn't be in the bottom 5. A few PP goals would have done wonders for this team last year.

I agree about getting 2 young, tough and skilled guys for Kane. We would probably have to add to it, though. But the hawks need about 3 young skilled guys with grit to add to Toews, Sharp, and Hossa. We lack the right players to win the Cup the way the league is now. You need the proper mix. We have too much money wrapped up in the top 4 that have shown they can't carry the Hawks. We need the right compliment of players. Kane can bring that. Plus I would do the talked about hammer and stalberg for Foligno and smith deal
- tomcat24

Will the league be the same after the lockout? Wasn't last time.

I agree about getting 2 young, tough and skilled guys for Kane. We would probably have to add to it, though. But the hawks need about 3 young skilled guys with grit to add to Toews, Sharp, and Hossa. We lack the right players to win the Cup the way the league is now. You need the proper mix. We have too much money wrapped up in the top 4 that have shown they can't carry the Hawks. We need the right compliment of players. Kane can bring that. Plus I would do the talked about hammer and stalberg for Foligno and smith deal
- tomcat24

Yes.

Because we are essentially looking at deals that give you a net change in roster of Suter + Nash - Hammer and Kane.

Are you a Cup contender with that being the extent of the moves? Because you are out of money after that.

Unless a "can't miss" D-man unexpectedly falls to 18, I think they have to go G. Russians scare though, so I'm not positive which of the big three I'd pick if they're all still there.

What I would really like to see is Stan trade #18 to Minny for Matthew Hackett, or some similar deal. Try and turn that #18 into something a little closer to NHL ready.
- Ogilthorpe2

That would be probably the best thing to do,however Stan is prospect draft pick heavy..but hey maybe he pulls a 180..I would like Vasilevski,and am hoping despite the Bowman way,they draft a future possible #1 goalie..Did the Wings ever draft a goalie in the first round when Scotty was there?

Perpetually bogus Oilers rumour monger @TreenasOil has suggested Gagner + 2nd <--> Hjalmarsson could be on the table. Thoughts?

Never going to happen without a bonafide point shooter.
- Return of the Roar

Seabrook has a bomb when he uses it and Leddy actually has a really good shot that pretty much goes in if it is on goal... Kind of unfortunate he doesn't get more time there

Who was the point shooter during the cup year? I think he is still on this team, he just needs to remember not to hit shin pads. I think Nash could do wonders for the PP, imagine a few more players who aren't satisfied playing around with the puck on the outside. Nash will help, not cure but will help a lot.
- droe411

Agree. I also think as many have mentioned giving DK less pp time and letting Seabs and Leddy (provided they don't get a pp QB in free agency) work with the first pp unit could provide better results. Hell even Oduya on the pp was able to move around on the point and find a lane. Doesn't have a cannon but liked what he brought to the pp more than #2 last year.

I would take Nash's contract in a second. Sure, it's a big contract, however, unlike Kane, Rick Nash is a serious player looking to always improve which means his value will always be there and you'd get your value back if you need to move him later. IMHO.
- JGould70

Nash is due 7.8 mil for next 6 years, 47mil left
Kane is 6.3 mil for next 3 years, 19 mil left

you take Nash and that contract with Hossa on books next 7 years and 5.25 mil the Hawks will be not be able to do anything in free agency not to mention paying Toews in 3 years.

Nash is a great player but his contract is one of the worst in NHL right now besides that goalie for Canucks who I hate so much I will not say or type his name.

Kane for Nash with similar contract is a no brainer but when the difference is 29 MIL not a chance Hawks take that on...