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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't think that status is changed.

He does have some value for a team trying to hit the cap floor since he's a $5MM hit for "only" $3MM out the door.

- shruew


Agree...It's just a book entry and maybe come February Thomas gets bored.

On Twitter@AlCimaglia
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
I am so tired of reading on here that fans want Nash. Has anyone ever watched Nash outside of the few games a season he plays the hawks? I would have a hard time accepting anyone wanting this guy if they have.

He is one of the laziest players in the league. He floats just about every other shift. The guy has the potential to be a 90+ player year in and year out. He is a 65pt player. Look at how dominant he is in international play. He's a star with team Canada on every level hes played. Why? bc when he wants it, he could dominate every game. There are very few players in the league that have close to his package of size and skill. Yet, for his entire NHL career he hasn't put in the effort to be that player over an 82 game season.

He is another Alexei Kovalev. A huge underachiever. I dont want to hear the excuse that he was on CBJ his whole career and didn't have anyone to play with. He has ELITE talent. He shouldn't need anyone to help get him points. He should be making everyone else around him better. Not the other way around. The other excuse is once he changes scenery and plays on a contender he will turn his game around. He has been in the NHL for almost a ten years now. Should a superstar really need a decade to turn his game around? And what makes anyone think he will suddenly change after a decade? Isn't it entirely possible that he will continue to be the player he's been his whole career?

Everyone wants to trade Kane for this guy. I am not a Kane fan at all. I am all for trading him if it meant getting a guy like perry, parise etc. NOT for Nash. You don't want to trade away Kane who is lazy, one dimensional, floats, for a guy with the same flaws. Kane on a down year still outproduces Nash on an avg year. The same fans here hoping for nash would be the same fans who quickly want to run him out of town for being an overpaid, lazy superstar when he undoubtedly fails to meet expectation.

On the other note, whatever the hawks need to do to get parise here they should. Parise is another Toews and Hossa. He can dominate a game without ever touching the puck. Unlike a Kane, who needs to be on the scoresheet to have an impact.

- Bhawks35
oh man
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
Got a question?

I'm thinking of subscribing to NHL Gamecenter for next season (if there is one). I live outside of the Chicago market, and I always get (frank)ed whenever WGN is airing games. Is NHL Gamecenter a solution for that?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
Take off the tinfoil hat. It's cooking your brain.
- EKolb13





Brainwashing man... Everyone knows armadillo blocks it, tin foil makes their messages even stronger...
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Why would anyone want Montador now??? Plus he has a LNTC.
- Al


We just had our 35 and over league draft here in Orlando. Montador was picked in the 8th round. He would get a lot of ice time here. I talked to our GM and we can offer up a weekend at Disney's All Star resort and some coupons for Golden Corral....a great family value....
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
I am so tired of reading on here that fans want Nash. Has anyone ever watched Nash outside of the few games a season he plays the hawks? I would have a hard time accepting anyone wanting this guy if they have.

He is one of the laziest players in the league. He floats just about every other shift. The guy has the potential to be a 90+ player year in and year out. He is a 65pt player. Look at how dominant he is in international play. He's a star with team Canada on every level hes played. Why? bc when he wants it, he could dominate every game. There are very few players in the league that have close to his package of size and skill. Yet, for his entire NHL career he hasn't put in the effort to be that player over an 82 game season.

He is another Alexei Kovalev. A huge underachiever. I dont want to hear the excuse that he was on CBJ his whole career and didn't have anyone to play with. He has ELITE talent. He shouldn't need anyone to help get him points. He should be making everyone else around him better. Not the other way around. The other excuse is once he changes scenery and plays on a contender he will turn his game around. He has been in the NHL for almost a ten years now. Should a superstar really need a decade to turn his game around? And what makes anyone think he will suddenly change after a decade? Isn't it entirely possible that he will continue to be the player he's been his whole career?

Everyone wants to trade Kane for this guy. I am not a Kane fan at all. I am all for trading him if it meant getting a guy like perry, parise etc. NOT for Nash. You don't want to trade away Kane who is lazy, one dimensional, floats, for a guy with the same flaws. Kane on a down year still outproduces Nash on an avg year. The same fans here hoping for nash would be the same fans who quickly want to run him out of town for being an overpaid, lazy superstar when he undoubtedly fails to meet expectation.

On the other note, whatever the hawks need to do to get parise here they should. Parise is another Toews and Hossa. He can dominate a game without ever touching the puck. Unlike a Kane, who needs to be on the scoresheet to have an impact.

- Bhawks35



Sweet story man
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
And Rube Goldberg's blog will be up soon.
- StLBravesFan


furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
Got a question?

I'm thinking of subscribing to NHL Gamecenter for next season (if there is one). I live outside of the Chicago market, and I always get (frank)ed whenever WGN is airing games. Is NHL Gamecenter a solution for that?

- EKolb13


Yes... you need to get the "Live" version. I had it this year and it was awesome for when i was out of town or not near a TV.
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
I can tell you Vishnevskiy and his piss poor attitude had some influence in Makarov going back home to mother Russia.
- EKolb13


I wouldn't doubt it. Vasilevski might be the guy the break that string. He probably won't have to wait too long before he starts.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
We just had our 35 and over league draft here in Orlando. Montador was picked in the 8th round. He would get a lot of ice time here. I talked to our GM and we can offer up a weekend at Disney's All Star resort and some coupons for Golden Corral....a great family value....
- TrueGrit


chocolate (rain) fountain AND cotton candy. how can you go wrong?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:11 PM ET


Brainwashing man... Everyone knows armadillo blocks it, tin foil makes their messages even stronger...

- fattybeef


They've got armadillos in Alabama, don't they? Maybe this is what southernhawk needs.

Somebody pass the info to him.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
Got a question?

I'm thinking of subscribing to NHL Gamecenter for next season (if there is one). I live outside of the Chicago market, and I always get (frank)ed whenever WGN is airing games. Is NHL Gamecenter a solution for that?

- EKolb13


If you are talking about the internet program? I am in Florida...so take this for what it is...

There still are some black out restrictions based on your IP address. I would make sure of that before committing.

Other than that the service is great. You can stream games all the time, neat features, and if your computer has hdmi, you can plug into your flat screen and watch. Just be sure to have high speed internet.

FWIW...
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
This was like an hour ago but I thought it was pretty interesting:

John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel
@TravisHeHateMe Nash thing could be hold up on Hjalmarsson to OTT
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sweet story man
- fattybeef


It was pretty sweet. But I feel like it lacked a powerful opening, a meaty body and a knockout conclusion.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yes... you need to get the "Live" version. I had it this year and it was awesome for when i was out of town or not near a TV.
- furso27


Cool! I just bought Apple TV. I'll have to see if it's available through that.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
It was pretty sweet. But I feel like it lacked a powerful opening, a meaty body and a knockout conclusion.
- furso27


flahawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NC
Joined: 08.03.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
This was like an hour ago but I thought it was pretty interesting:

John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel
@TravisHeHateMe Nash thing could be hold up on Hjalmarsson to OTT

- al_blog


I wish JJ would post his thoughts here so those of us for whom Twitter is blocked at work could enjoy them!
Midnightmarty
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
I wouldn't doubt it. Vasilevski might be the guy the break that string. He probably won't have to wait too long before he starts.
- scorerstouch


It seems like the goalies have far more staying power than forwards/dmen. Bobrovsky, Bryzgalov, Khabibulin, Nabokov, Varlamov all legit NHL goaltenders. Can't name off the top of my head anyone that has had attitude problems unless I'm forgetting someone?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yes... you need to get the "Live" version. I had it this year and it was awesome for when i was out of town or not near a TV.
- furso27



I use it for the flyers (live in Chicago) and love it. Can get games on my phone too. Spend a lot of nights with the hawks on tv and flyers on my laptop.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
They've got armadillos in Alabama, don't they? Maybe this is what southernhawk needs.

Somebody pass the info to him.

- EKolb13



No (frank)ing way man....those things were put here by the communist Chinese ....thats there secret weapon...and there working for the Mayans to!!
Bhawks35
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.31.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sweet story man
- fattybeef


Unfortunately, a purely non-fictional story.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 3:17 PM ET
We just had our 35 and over league draft here in Orlando. Montador was picked in the 8th round. He would get a lot of ice time here. I talked to our GM and we can offer up a weekend at Disney's All Star resort and some coupons for Golden Corral....a great family value....
- TrueGrit

DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
We just had our 35 and over league draft here in Orlando. Montador was picked in the 8th round. He would get a lot of ice time here. I talked to our GM and we can offer up a weekend at Disney's All Star resort and some coupons for Golden Corral....a great family value....
- TrueGrit

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
I have a hard time looking at Vic as a disappointment as many seem to. (Not saying you are Al) I am a tad confounded why so many knock a guy, who makes obvious progress year to year.

I know there are legit concerns about aspects of his game, but how can a coach not find a way to utilize his skill set? How can you not be encouraged by progress?

From Eddie O on down, so many knock this guy. If he had done this in 08-09 or before, would we not be excited about a player growing. This points to my problem/contention with culture of team. That is 5 years ago so many guys cut their teeth and were given the rope to do so. After cup, the microscope is on these guys and perfection is expected. It seems that so much blame goes to these guys as opposed to expecting more from the core.

Anyhow, I can see Stalberg playing with Zetterberg in 2 years in Detroit just lighting it up. Meanwhile most nostalgic hawk fans will still be stuck on...why did we trade Buff and Ladd.

Not saying you don't trade the guy, as the team needs to improve, but this guy does not deserve half the crap he gets, but rather deserves more respect.

- TrueGrit


One of two courses need to be taken...

Trade Stalberg now for a need...OR

Play him like a top six forward and get ready to resign with a big raise sooner than later if he does well.
Midnightmarty
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
Unfortunately, a purely non-fictional story.
- Bhawks35


You ever watch any Blue Jackets games? Can't say I blame Nash for losing his motivation to play there.
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