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moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
I have been writing for weeks...

And just tweeted...

The trade chips off the roster are Hammer, Stalberg and Bickell...

From Rockford; Pirri, Lalonde lead the list.

- Al



Even though I've heard nothing - I really hope the flyers are in play for Stalberg. Give Stan some picks, he likes those. Stalberg makes it easier for the flyers to then deal JVR. He'd pair well on the 3rd line..... Stalberg - Couturier - Simmonds.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
I should have been clearer with what I was asking in respect to Stallberg. I wasn't taking away from the fact that I know Al and JJ broke the news first, (which- as with all reported here- I am grateful for!!!) I was only asking if there was an update since it's gaining traction.
- al_blog


No hard feelings here...Anyone can post anything at anytime.

When I am asked about something I have mentioned awhile ago...Well...

It is what it is...If Bobby Ryan gets traded not many will remember I had him on the block a week ago.

People remember what they want...And most of the time the stuff that doesn't happen is what people will remember.

On Twitter@Alcimaglia
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
Check your PM's.
- EKolb13


You too
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hammer may get you something of need but for the most part none of those other players bring you back much at all.
- RickJ


Depends. A young 20 goal scorer making less then $1MM could be very attractive to a lot of teams. Similarly, Bickell has value because he's making the minimum and has the tools (lacking the brains) to be a good NHL forward.

Frolik and Montador have no value IMO.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Even though I've heard nothing - I really hope the flyers are in play for Stalberg. Give Stan some picks, he likes those. Stalberg makes it easier for the flyers to then deal JVR. He'd pair well on the 3rd line..... Stalberg - Couturier - Simmonds.
- moylander


Going to have to take a bad contract with Stalberg...Like a Frolik.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Are you wearing your tinfoil hat to keep them out of your head?
- EKolb13

You damn right that nonstick poop is the best for Chinese cyber worms...
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Capt..

To be clear I have been on the same train for awhile...Hammer, Suter...Stalberg etc...

I heard Bolland was on the block but that was before Q. and the Habs job etc....

The Hawks will try to make a splash and I still think there is better than a 50% chance something significant will come down.

That doesn't necessarily mean Suter or Parise but something most would be happy with..

And it doesn't necessarily have to happen this weekend...
I heard about the same time Suter was in the mix...Doesn't mean he will sign here but the Hawks will take a big swing.

- Al


Heard you loud and clear Al...appreciate the reply...new article tomorrow possibly? or will you be waiting for the entire draft to be over with?
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
I am in the camp that you have to get lucky...
If it was my guess I would take Subban over the Russian.

Since the Mike Smith era the Hawks have avoided taking Russians in the draft or otherwise...And that might not change.

- Al



If this is or were true, that would be so incredibly stupid on their part. You should never turn away talent because of some prejudice. Mike Smith was an idiot true but the team did worse by not developing our Russian picks. Vorobiev was playing well, not great, but 21 pts in 39 games isn't too shabby for a rookie. He also accused the organization, of that time, of poor treatment toward its Russian players.

While I believe that to be a bit exaggerated, I do believe the CBH have had issues developing players like Vorobiev. I still think they have issues, mainly the coaching staff, has not done enough to get players like Kane, Hammer, and even Crawford playing like the can.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Hammer may get you something of need but for the most part none of those other players bring you back much at all.
- RickJ


Pirri and Lalonde aren't going to land you a whale but have value.
Stalberg definitely has value...
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
Going to have to take a bad contract with Stalberg...Like a Frolik.
- Al


Homer would hang up the phone. Too shrewd for that

Have you heard that's what SB is asking for him?
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
If this is or were true, that would be so incredibly stupid on their part. You should never turn away talent because of some prejudice. Mike Smith was an idiot true but the team did worse by not developing our Russian picks. Vorobiev was playing well, not great, but 21 pts in 39 games isn't too shabby for a rookie. He also accused the organization, of that time, of poor treatment toward its Russian players.

While I believe that to be a bit exaggerated, I do believe the CBH have had issues developing players like Vorobiev. I still think they have issues, mainly the coaching staff, has not done enough to get players like Kane, Hammer, and even Crawford playing like the can.

- scorerstouch


Well before we go in the wrong direction...

There are reasons to avoid Russain players and many franchises do...Unless the right connections are in place, especially now, they stay in Russia.

So more is involved and there is more uncertainty, in an already uncertain game.

It's not by chance you haven't seen many Russians here since then.
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
When will this die!?:

From Eklund:
On Luongo...

A player I really thought would be going later...may actually be the closest to making a deal...Toronto of course, but I keep hearing Chicago...
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
When will this die!?:

From Eklund:
On Luongo...

A player I really thought would be going later...may actually be the closest to making a deal...Toronto of course, but I keep hearing Chicago...

- al_blog


When wonthecup10 stops talking about it!
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
Homer would hang up the phone. Too shrewd for that

Have you heard that's what SB is asking for him?

- moylander

Rogers just threw out Meszaros' name on twitter. Take that as you will
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
Homer would hang up the phone. Too shrewd for that

Have you heard that's what SB is asking for him?

- moylander


Not going to give away a player with a modest contract who has improved every season here and the GM thinks could be a top six forward.
wolverine19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Thunder Bay, ON
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
Sharp before he got his big contract.
- coldsteelonice


See what a wife, kid and family does... hockey may not be#1
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
Rogers just threw out Meszaros' name on twitter. Take that as you will
- rollpards19


Fine player with a huge contract and injury issues.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
When wonthecup10 stops talking about it!
- EKolb13

That's funny
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Pirri and Lalonde aren't going to land you a whale but have value.
Stalberg definitely has value...

- Al

But how much value would he really have? The hawks really need 2 to 3 younger forwards with some grit and skill. It would be nice if hammer nets us a Foligno. Smith is good, too, but more upside with Foligno. Only the top 4 have enough value to bring back a couple young gritty forwards. Toews isn't going anywhere and either is Hossa. It should be Kane
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
That's funny
- southernhawk


Thanks, I do what I can.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Not going to give away a player with a modest contract who has improved every season here and the GM thinks could be a top six forward.
- Al



He's given away everyone else Ladd, Buff, Campbell,Versteeg. Lol. One can dream right?


Thanks for the response.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
When will this die!?:

From Eklund:
On Luongo...

A player I really thought would be going later...may actually be the closest to making a deal...Toronto of course, but I keep hearing Chicago...

- al_blog


There has to be ZERO legs to this rumor
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
Capt..

To be clear I have been on the same train for awhile...Hammer, Suter...Stalberg etc...

I heard Bolland was on the block but that was before Q. and the Habs job etc....

The Hawks will try to make a splash and I still think there is better than a 50% chance something significant will come down.

That doesn't necessarily mean Suter or Parise but something most would be happy with..

And it doesn't necessarily have to happen this weekend...
I heard about the same time Suter was in the mix...Doesn't mean he will sign here but the Hawks will take a big swing.

- Al
\

Al hope they move all three...hopefully someone will want Stalberg and take Frolik w/ him...I think Stalberg is a trap right now...sure he scored last season (against the Jackets) but he doesn't play the body and how about his playoff numbers the last two seasons.
QStache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.02.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
He's given away everyone else Ladd, Buff, Campbell,Versteeg. Lol. One can dream right?


Thanks for the response.

- moylander


I won't begin to defend Bowman for his tenure as GM, but it is hard to hold the Ladd, Buff, or Versteeg trades against him when he was completely hamstrung by how much salary he could take back. Campbell was also a salary dump, pure and simple.
flahawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NC
Joined: 08.03.2009

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
There has to be ZERO legs to this rumor
- FourFeathers773


Maybe someone's just feeding that to Eklund so he'll look silly. It's just plain dumb. Stan has to know that if he trades for Lu he'll be run out of town. I don't think even he is that stupid.

(Please, Stan, don't pove me wrong on this one . . . )
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