Lu isnt the problem

my opinion is that the leafs are further away to being competitive than everyone seems to think

Lu is a great goalie.. who wont be had for crap players.. but he's not a miracle worker.. he still needs a decent team in front of him
- Dozzer

I absolutely agree....they are at least 3 years from playing competitive hockey. And that's if we are lucky enough for our prospects pan out.
By then, Luongo is on his last legs with 7 years to go......

I dunno....

I went to delete it and it was gone, yeah that left me with a bad feeling in my stomach.
- LeafMan

You guys should know by nw 99% of everything I say is a joke

Just 2 be clear it was a joke .... I don't do that kinda stuff
- The_Vark

oh i know.. i knew it was a joke... just didnt sit well with me is all.. if i thought you were actually like that i would of banned you out of princible lol

*predictions*

I meant to say...our current roster will be strong, and just barely miss the playoffs...no big MELTDOWN like last year. Damn, I really need to watch what I type
- noename09

hahahah oh ok

Canucs fans have a huge hate on for Kadri... Probably because people said he was better than the formerly elite hodgson.
- Feeling Glucky?

I don't hate him, he's just not what the Canucks need. We've got all the undersized top 6 forwards we need. We need beefier players.

Komisarek has negative value as a player that is not earning his contract.

The 2 things combined make trading Lu for picks a better option than the Komi, Kadri, mid-late pick option. For other teams, that may not be the case, but in Vancouver, it certainly is.

You guys should know by nw 99% of everything I say is a joke
- The_Vark

yeah man its cool.. no worries

There's a reason you're not working in the hockey industry
- ILoveLamp

Sorry, Mr. Nonis. I didn't realize you were here.

oh i know.. i knew it was a joke... just didnt sit well with me is all.. if i thought you were actually like that i would of banned you out of princible lol
- Dozzer

If u ban me I'm going to go kick a puppy



And it will be all your fault

Maybe. The Flames were very close last year. Personally, I think Lu is the better goalie and that Toronto's goaltending was their Achilles' heel. A major upgrade in net should get them to the dance.

The thing is, Burke is not going to let the team finish last. He's been trying to rebuild on the fly. He's invested assets in making the team better now. It's all for nothing is he tries to bottom out now.
- micah555

nope....they'll still suck.

You guys should know by nw 99% of everything I say is a joke
- The_Vark

I know, it is out of the way now.

Maybe. The Flames were very close last year. Personally, I think Lu is the better goalie and that Toronto's goaltending was their Achilles' heel. A major upgrade in net should get them to the dance.

The thing is, Burke is not going to let the team finish last. He's been trying to rebuild on the fly. He's invested assets in making the team better now. It's all for nothing is he tries to bottom out now.
- micah555

I agree...but dont expect Burke to give up much more than what I suggested...wouldnt be worth it for us.

See...Dozzer ((IS)) right, we are far away from NEEDING a guy like Luongo...but the point of view im trying to express is that WHY NOT have someone like him for CHEAP...he will do BETTER than he will do BAD....I dont get it....what HARM does it bring to the team to have him....it could very well get us some playoffs and get us out of a losing slump...WHY NOT??

Contract aside, because that conversation is moot, no one here can predict if he plays 2 years or 15 more years. We can say likely in the middle of his contract at 5-6 years...but again we would just be making assumptions so that part of the discussion shouldnt hold much....

obtaining Luongo means you are
#1 Giving up on scrivens completely as he's gone out the door

#2 losing out on any chance of Reimer developing properly. No goalie is going to develop playing 15-20 games a year. By the time Luongo retires, Reimer will be a 30 year old back up that never blossomed because he was under the shadow of Luongo.

#3 we aren't going to be a cup contender for another 5 years under best case scenario so why even bother? Unless the goal is to just squeak into the playoffs and pull off a miracle.

That's my issues with acquiring Luongo. If it can be done on the cheap......... I could live with it somewhat I guess

I know, it is out of the way now.
- LeafMan

Lucky I didn't see it first.

I don't hate him, he's just not what the Canucks need. We've got all the undersized top 6 forwards we need. We need beefier players.

Komisarek has negative value as a player that is not earning his contract.

The 2 things combined make trading Lu for picks a better option than the Komi, Kadri, mid-late pick option. For other teams, that may not be the case, but in Vancouver, it certainly is.
- micah555

Many would argue Luongo eats at that buffet, too.

I don't hate him, he's just not what the Canucks need. We've got all the undersized top 6 forwards we need. We need beefier players.

Komisarek has negative value as a player that is not earning his contract.

The 2 things combined make trading Lu for picks a better option than the Komi, Kadri, mid-late pick option. For other teams, that may not be the case, but in Vancouver, it certainly is.
- micah555

problem is.. there really is no market for him

thats why i keep saying gillis wont trade him.. he wont get what he needs or wants and he wont take garbage

he would be far better off to run with both guys in the upcoming season, wait til an injury creates a need and a desperate GM.. and make the move then

If u ban me I'm going to go kick a puppy



And it will be all your fault
- The_Vark

Just think Mr. Vark, you could have shared purgatory with UG for a little while!!

I absolutely agree....they are at least 3 years from playing competitive hockey. And that's if we are lucky enough for our prospects pan out.
By then, Luongo is on his last legs with 7 years to go......

I dunno....
- Barx

so lets keep losing for another 3 years??....I dont get it?....until we are cup worthy, we shouldnt try??

Many would argue Luongo eats at that buffet, too.
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah but unlike komi, luongo is still worth putting on the ice

You guys should know by nw 99% of everything I say is a joke
- The_Vark

Parum pum!

Lucky I didn't see it first.
- hscesq

It is a big no no and although it was a joke, it was in poor taste but the poster knows now.

Dozzer was quick to act, great job by him.

so lets keep losing for another 3 years??....I dont get it?....until we are cup worthy, we shouldnt try??


- noename09

YES.. build through higher draft picks and development.. dont take on long contracts.. try on short term contracts that can be jettisoned to make room for your own prospects as they become ready

This may be the only time I say this....but I really hope Ottawa pays the price Columbus is asking for Nash and they get him.

problem is.. there really is no market for him

thats why i keep saying gillis wont trade him.. he wont get what he needs or wants and he wont take garbage

he would be far better off to run with both guys in the upcoming season, wait til an injury creates a need and a desperate GM.. and make the move then
- Dozzer

I dont know why the (frank)er dosnt just trade Schneider for a nice juicy package and win the cup ths year/next with upgrades he can make with said package....am I missing something!?

I cant get over the fact that Schneider only has 68 games experience, 8 playoff games TOTAL....why is he the CLEAR cut choice!?

(vancouver guy?)

I absolutely agree....they are at least 3 years from playing competitive hockey. And that's if we are lucky enough for our prospects pan out.
By then, Luongo is on his last legs with 7 years to go......

I dunno....
- Barx

yeah thats how i see it to.. by the time we are competitive luongo will be 36 or 37 years old

the move just doesnt make sense.. the only thing it does is increase the odds of making the post season by a small margin

carlyle is coach now.. and we have no size in the top 6.. luongo can stop pucks all day long, but as long as we dont have forwards who can play in carlyle's system effectively then stopping pucks left right and centre is moot anyways.

and by size i mean grit.. small guys can play big too

They signed him for 3 years, in hopes that he develops into a true #1. Bringing in a Mason or a Biron or a Johnson to back him up would show that they have the confidence for him to do so.
A Luongo trade says that as long as Reimer's a Leaf, he's a back up.
- AnnGee44

No matter who he plays for.....he's a back up.