Greg McKegg, Brad Ross, Nazem Kadri, Stuart Percy, Tyler Biggs, Jesse Blacker, Jerry D'Amigo, Josh Nicholls

Yup, he sucks
- cor99

soon to be my next favourite player

If Burke wants Lu, he better bring his best offer. I think Gillis is done messing around.
- IanEsplen

I believe you overlooked the smiley face at the end of this comment.

I would think Gillis' is probably more concerned about the deals he's already made (e.g. Hodgson) and how they handled the Luongo/Schneider situation back during the latter portion of the season and during playoffs, and how those decisions (or lack of decisions) impacted the current situation.

Then again maybe Luongo just wants out of VCR because he's concerned Ballard might swing and hit him in the head.

Some are definitely better than others. Burke's management of the draft has not impressed me. Just my opinion, fellas. Overall, what I'm female dogging about here is our utterly woeful draft record. We've been out of the playoffs for 8 years, bottom feeding, but we haven't been able to draft even 1 franchise type player.

i do think wilson and kadri's egos clashed

he talked about him not being responsible defensively while he playing kessel top line minutes
- Dozzer

When Kadri scores 30 goals and 60-80 points, then he's allowed to be crappy in his own end.


But when he's barely contributing offensively, and was making defensive errors, then what exactly is he accomplishing?

Yak, Gal, Grig and Forsberg go top 4 would it be so bad if the Leafs got a Murray or Reinhart with the 5th pick ? I know Leafs fans disagree with a D pick but doesn't it just create even more room with the assets to trade for a top 6 forward ?
- IGNITE

Id take Murray. Bpa, its the oldest rule in the book.

Some are definitely better than others. Burke's management of the draft has not impressed me. Just my opinion, fellas. Overall, what I'm female dogging about here is our utterly woeful draft record. We've been out of the playoffs for 8 years, bottom feeding, but we haven't been able to draft even 1 franchise type player.
- triggermartin

So, Burks the reason for this.... Sweet.

So, Burks the reason for this.... Sweet.
- jbold

Kessel > Seguin, Hamilton, Knight. Talk amongst yourselves.

Schenn (not Burke pick but..) & Kadri have played on the Leafs, some are in NCAA, can't get them to join the team, they are committed to the school, others stayed the course in Junior. Remember Kadri the first training camp and pre season, he actually out performed all the players on the roster but was sent back.
- LeafMan

like i said.. 4th year after the draft is when you can actually start to look at picks as NHLers

its nice if they are ready prior to that.. but its rare

also, i think with carlyle at the helm we are going to see alot more of kadri now.

When Kadri scores 30 goals and 60-80 points, then he's allowed to be crappy in his own end.


But when he's barely contributing offensively, and was making defensive errors, then what exactly is he accomplishing?
- jbold

he will never score 30.. he's a playmaker

and how can he get those point totals if you dont play him?

some guys just dont have good two way games.. its just the way it is

Kessel > Seguin, Hamilton, Knight. Talk amongst yourselves.
- triggermartin

No no. You're complaining about the last 8 years and no franchise players.


So apparently Burke is to be blamed for the last 8 years.

Good stuff man.

Kessel > Seguin, Hamilton, Knight. Talk amongst yourselves.
- triggermartin

OK .... I choose to talk about how you sir are a D!CK

he will never score 30.. he's a playmaker

and how can he get those point totals if you dont play him?

some guys just dont have good two way games.. its just the way it is
- Dozzer

He was played. And wasn't that good..

Kessel > Seguin, Hamilton, Knight. Talk amongst yourselves.
- triggermartin

You are confusing a bad trade with bad drafting.

Some are definitely better than others. Burke's management of the draft has not impressed me. Just my opinion, fellas. Overall, what I'm female dogging about here is our utterly woeful draft record. We've been out of the playoffs for 8 years, bottom feeding, but we haven't been able to draft even 1 franchise type player.
- triggermartin

just a quick question

how many years do you believe it should take a prospect to reach the NHL?

also.. side note.. seguin was only brought up to the nhl in his rookie year because boston didnt want him playing in junior since he was too good for the league but they couldnt put him in the ahl because he wasnt 20

so, for a typical pick.. how many years?

Greg McKegg, Brad Ross, Nazem Kadri, Stuart Percy, Tyler Biggs, Jesse Blacker, Jerry D'Amigo, Josh Nicholls

Yup, he sucks
- cor99

These guys have all been so awesome for the Leafs. Definite evidence of his skill as a drafter.

Some are definitely better than others. Burke's management of the draft has not impressed me. Just my opinion, fellas. Overall, what I'm female dogging about here is our utterly woeful draft record. We've been out of the playoffs for 8 years, bottom feeding, but we haven't been able to draft even 1 franchise type player.
- triggermartin

Let's see how many top draft spots we had over those 8 years, the only top spot was second overall and Seguin is NOT a franchise player, those type of players are generational, people use the term "franchise player" to easily here.

He was played. And wasn't that good..
- jbold

lol he was played on the third line

i'm not getting into a kadri debate.. he deserves a shot with top 6 minutes.. if he fails then.. okay.. time to move on

Yak, Gal, Grig and Forsberg go top 4 would it be so bad if the Leafs got a Murray or Reinhart with the 5th pick ? I know Leafs fans disagree with a D pick but doesn't it just create even more room with the assets to trade for a top 6 forward ?
- IGNITE

Yes and no. Why keep trying to trade for a top6 forward, instead of just drafting one. Id rather trade to move up and grab a guy like Galy, rather than pick another defender and try and trade him for a current NHLer...unless its for someone like Staal

OK .... I choose to talk about how you sir are a D!CK
- .HOHO.

Happens every time. As soon as you point out a hole in the argument, people attack you for bringing up the facts. Fair enough. The Kessel deal ultimately will be Burke's failed legacy in Toronto.

My favourite year is 1973...the best bands were either in their prime or just starting out
- JIMI-JAMES

+++++100

These guys have all been so awesome for the Leafs. Definite evidence of his skill as a drafter.
- Schenn-Sational!

WTF?

why do you guys think that a guy should be able to make the NHL as a f'n teenager?!

absolutely ludicrous

Discuss.

Kessel > Seguin, Hamilton, Knight. Talk amongst yourselves.
- triggermartin

he never made a trade for those players, the deal was for draft picks. hindsight is always 20/20

You are confusing a bad trade with bad drafting.
- Leafs43

No, I'm saying the trade was a horrible mismanagement of draft assets.

Discuss.
- Brian Huddle

I still can't believe she's only 19