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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
Bet you waited a year to say that


Well done. Pretty funny


I like moving Bob. Professional to give the kid a chance

- Daman

Why would I wait a year to say that?

Did you wait a year to reply to my comment that waited a year?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
JVR + 20th for Schenn +5th????Discuss....
- Philly1980

Nope..
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
lol die
- OrangeBlack27


lol No.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
#Flyers most likely will not make offer sheet to RFA Shea Weber, I'm told.


groovy, losing 5 first round picks doesn't sound like fun
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
JVR + 20th for Schenn +5th????Discuss....
- Philly1980


Unless Schenn + 5 are going to Nashville as part of a Shea Weber deal, not interested.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:25 PM ET
one under achiever for another lol
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
#Flyers most likely will not make offer sheet to RFA Shea Weber, I'm told.


groovy, losing 5 first round picks sounds like fun

- the deaninator


I haven't even really heard that being discussed as an option
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
#Flyers most likely will not make offer sheet to RFA Shea Weber, I'm told.


groovy, losing 5 first round picks doesn't sound like fun

- the deaninator

my guess is nash would match any offer anywho
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:26 PM ET
Absolutely not.

There seems to be this belief that Ryan is a star player. He is not.

- MJL


Maybe not a superstar, but I'd argue whether he's a star or not... Or better yet whether he's better than JVR.

Ryan - A Fan Favorite
6'2" / 209 / 25yrs - 5 season in NHL
Can play C or LW
Durable - only miss 1 game (flu) in 3 seasons. (first season miss 2 flu and 2 suspension)
Scores - 4 previous years with 30+ goals, many assists...
Grit - Averaging over 100+ hits a season

JVR - on the trading block
6'3" / 200 / 23yrs - 3 season in NHL
Only plays LW
Durable??? - never played a full season, 2 concussion and groin/hip issues.
Scores - Only one year over 20 goals (at 21), similar level of assists...
Grit - One season with 107 hits, other seasons where in the 30's.
Development - Way behind the level of Ryan.

Ryan out paces any current Flyers goal scoring over the past few years.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
#Flyers most likely will not make offer sheet to RFA Shea Weber, I'm told.


groovy, losing 5 first round picks doesn't sound like fun

- the deaninator

he said groovy
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
I haven't even really heard that being discussed as an option
- funmaster18


neither have I, and I can't see nashville not matching any offer. But then again, its carchidi we're talking about.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
Maybe not a superstar, but I'd argue whether he's a star or not... Or better yet whether he's better than JVR.

Ryan - A Fan Favorite
6'2" / 209 / 25yrs - 5 season in NHL
Can play C or LW
Durable - only miss 1 game (flu) in 3 seasons. (first season miss 2 flu and 2 suspension)
Scores - 4 previous years with 30+ goals, many assists...
Grit - Averaging over 100+ hits a season

JVR - on the trading block
6'3" / 200 / 23yrs - 3 season in NHL
Only plays LW
Durable??? - never played a full season, 2 concussion and groin/hip issues.
Scores - Only one year over 20 goals (at 21), similar level of assists...
Grit - One season with 107 hits, other seasons where in the 30's.
Development - Way behind the level of Ryan.

Ryan out paces any current Flyers goal scoring over the past few years.

- leon neon

Fantastic non-biased view!
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
he said groovy
- JoeRussomanno


i'm slowly bringing it back
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
I bet you Schenn would have helped against the Devils.  Not saying he would have changed the outcome, but he could have helped.  Coburn, Meszaros and even Grossman aren't even anywhere near as physical as Luke Schenn.  He led the league in hits by a defenseman.  And he's only 22.  You're also misunderstanding me here.  I'm not saying Luke Schenn is a number one defenseman by any stretch of the imagination.  He by himself is not the answer.  The only true number one defenseman on the market this year is Suter.  But he can only play for one team and I'm not sold that he is a franchise defenseman either.  But getting Luke Schenn PLUS another defenseman would possibly solve their defensive woes.  Like I said 4 times already Garrison is the guy I want the most.  But just one guy is not the answer this offseason.
- TonyBazz


I'm aware that Schenn led the NHL in hits for a defenseman. As is everyone. And no, he wouldn't have a made a difference in the NJ Series. Don't know if having Pronger would have changed the outcome of that Series. Your overrating Schenn if you think he would have made a difference in that Series. I'm not misunderstanding you at all. They don't have a need for a defenseman like Schenn.
If they can get a true #1, one guy is the answer.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
i'm slowly bringing it back
- the deaninator

that's hip
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
neither have I, and I can't see nashville not matching any offer. But then again, its carchidi we're talking about.
- the deaninator


Yes I unfollowed him 6 months ago. I feel a lot less stress and anger when on twitter now
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:28 PM ET
Maybe not a superstar, but I'd argue whether he's a star or not... Or better yet whether he's better than JVR.

Ryan - A Fan Favorite
6'2" / 209 / 25yrs - 5 season in NHL
Can play C or LW
Durable - only miss 1 game (flu) in 3 seasons. (first season miss 2 flu and 2 suspension)
Scores - 4 previous years with 30+ goals, many assists...
Grit - Averaging over 100+ hits a season

JVR - on the trading block
6'3" / 200 / 23yrs - 3 season in NHL
Only plays LW
Durable??? - never played a full season, 2 concussion and groin/hip issues.
Scores - Only one year over 20 goals (at 21), similar level of assists...
Grit - One season with 107 hits, other seasons where in the 30's.
Development - Way behind the level of Ryan.

Ryan out paces any current Flyers goal scoring over the past few years.

- leon neon



Everyones got JVR on a pedestal...Hes a nice kid, but hes not all that.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
that's hip
- JoeRussomanno


and boss
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
“@Aportzline: Have confirmed @DarrenDreger report of #CBJ trade for G Sergei Bobrovsky. Three draft picks going to Flyers, including No. 45 this year.”
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
Everyones got JVR on a pedestal...Hes a nice kid, but hes not all that.
- Philly1980

I disagree.. I just think people understand what JvR brings to the table. Some just want him traded for the sake of trading him.

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike
I'm told #CBJ had the better offer than #Jets for Bobrovsky and #Flyers pulled the trigger. Likely a 2nd rounder and a 6/7. Still uncertain.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
Manayunk Mike ‏@ManayunkMike
I'm told #CBJ had the better offer than #Jets for Bobrovsky and #Flyers pulled the trigger. Likely a 2nd rounder and a 6/7. Still uncertain.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
do we actually have a 2nd round pick on draft day???
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
“@Aportzline: Have confirmed @DarrenDreger report of #CBJ trade for G Sergei Bobrovsky. Three draft picks going to Flyers, including No. 45 this year.”
- funmaster18

wow.. Didnt think we would get that much
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
“@Aportzline: Have confirmed @DarrenDreger report of #CBJ trade for G Sergei Bobrovsky. Three draft picks going to Flyers, including No. 45 this year.”
- funmaster18

Hope it's their 1st round draft pick.

HOLMER
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