Making a deal with that pick is risky... most GM's are about risk management.... keeping their jobs
- Mr_Smokey

True

I think Burke has a history of making the unthinkable happen. Look at the garbage he traded for Phaneuf (aside from Ian White, I like whitey) as well as the Beauchmin deal.

I think Burkey has a history of doing some crazy shiat but put between Holmgrem and Sather and how desirable each location is to a potential player vs the assets they have to trade in return, I think both would crush Burke in that regard which is why I don't put Leafs even on the radar for a Nash deal or a Ryan deal. I'd put the Sharks ahead of the Leafs but no where close to the Flyers and Rangers but that's just my opinion based on those 3 factors. Location, assets and GM.

Only time Burke swings a deal is when it's a trade that's on the downlow
- Sheppy99

That trade was an anomaly... can't expect such things in the future

True
- sjsharks92

It would be pretty wild to see Montreal move up to get Yak tho.. it is what this team needs it's stale as (frank)

I think Burke has a history of making the unthinkable happen. Look at the garbage he traded for Phaneuf (aside from Ian White, I like whitey) as well as the Beauchmin deal.

I think Burkey has a history of doing some crazy shiat but put between Holmgrem and Sather and how desirable each location is to a potential player vs the assets they have to trade in return, I think both would crush Burke in that regard which is why I don't put Leafs even on the radar for a Nash deal or a Ryan deal. I'd put the Sharks ahead of the Leafs but no where close to the Flyers and Rangers but that's just my opinion based on those 3 factors. Location, assets and GM.

Only time Burke swings a deal is when it's a trade that's on the downlow
- Sheppy99

I think it depends on the player. A guy like Marleau is perfect in SJ. He'd get eaten alive in NY or Toronto or Philly. Frankly I'd never want to play in Philly or NY. (not that it matters though, i can barely skate )

Wow you love bringing up the past.

If u havent noticed, ive changed. should try it sometime. I refuse to stoop down to your level and resort to personal attacks and past events.
- FLYERSROCK!

its good to know that you think rape is something to laugh about and how you said you would do it, i can NEVER ever respect or let anything like that go, that is scum

and yes you have resorted to personal attacks

That trade was an anomaly... can't expect such things in the future
- Mr_Smokey

I'm not really sure what this guy is getting at. Holmgrem's made a few big trades since the lockout. Sather's only made big splashes in FA. And Burke's all over the place.

I think he just isn't aware of DW's wheeling and dealing in the offseason because he's out in SJ.

I think it depends on the player. A guy like Marleau is perfect in SJ. He'd get eaten alive in NY or Toronto or Philly. Frankly I'd never want to play in Philly or NY. (not that it matters though, i can barely skate )
- sjsharks92

Well the reason players avoid Toronto is because like you said, it's easier to play in non hockey markets where the temp is warm and 2, leafs management prior to Burke was an absolute joke and laughing stock of the league which is why we could never sign any big fish.

At least in the last 5 years Burke has brought respectability back to our franchise and shown future players we are trying to do things the right way this time around and build through youth.

In my opinion you'll never win with a player who can't handle a real hockey market anyways cause they usually suck under pressure in the playoffs, no offense to Marleau I actually like him somewhat.

More of a broad statement to the pussies who avoid toronto cause of the media circus

Gentleman.... lets get along here... everyone is different... and you guys both seem like pretty cool dudes... I'm on here a fair bit (usually at night) and still manage a pretty good life! Having a computer and internet I imagine you're both priviledged enough that you shouldn't be ripping on eachother this way... making everything so personal.

Lets get alone boys...
- TimThomasLunge

That whole thing between them is waaaay to deep to explain, But I like the optimism.

quote=FLYERSROCK!]Wow you love bringing up the past.

If u havent noticed, ive changed. should try it sometime. I refuse to stoop down to your level and resort to personal attacks and past events.

its good to know that you think rape is something to laugh about and how you said you would do it, i can NEVER ever respect or let anything like that go, that is scum

and yes you have resorted to personal attacks
- dmarsden2988

Ahahahahaha, look at these losers.

Get a god dam life!




Please......

That trade was an anomaly... can't expect such things in the future
- Mr_Smokey

nope, I don't think anybody can

Just saying Burke tends to make his big deals when he's the only potential suitor. He doesn't usually win out against other GM's when competing for a player.

Two factors....... well 3 actually now that I think of it, Toronto is a media circus, Burke doesn't believe in cap circumvention and the other teams usually have more depth to offer whether it be current roster players or prospects.

When it comes to the Nash trade (and I don't want him anyways) The only player that puts us even on the radar as the other teams is Jake Gardiner and I would not trade Jake for a 7.8 million dollar almost 30 year old player.

Ahahahahaha, look at these losers.

Get a god dam life!




Please......
- Whiskey-Tango

That whole thing between them is waaaay to deep to explain, But I like the optimism.
- sloppyseconds2

I've been around longer than you think...

its good to know that you think rape is something to laugh about and how you said you would do it, i can NEVER ever respect or let anything like that go, that is scum

and yes you have resorted to personal attacks
- dmarsden2988

Whatever dude.
Youre so hung up in the past, its incredible.
Lets see Michael Vick. Im an animal lover, and what he did was cruel, and soany other things. Hes changed, ive put that behind along with his other millions if fans.

People change. Stop living in the past.

Ahahahahaha, look at these losers.

Get a god dam life!




Please......
- Whiskey-Tango

How about them Nucks eh!?

I'm not really sure what this guy is getting at. Holmgrem's made a few big trades since the lockout. Sather's only made big splashes in FA. And Burke's all over the place.

I think he just isn't aware of DW's wheeling and dealing in the offseason because he's out in SJ.
- sjsharks92

Did Wilson make the Thornton trade? If so that's all he can hang his hat on.... epic fleecing but that's it.

Whatever dude.
Youre so hung up in the past, its incredible.
Lets see Michael Vick. Im an animal lover, and what he did was cruel, and soany other things. Hes changed, ive put that behind along with his other millions if fans.

People change. Stop living in the past.
- FLYERSROCK!

Weak people whole grudges cause it's easier

forgiving tends to be done by the stronger people since it's harder

I've been around longer than you think...
- TimThomasLunge

Oh no plz dont sy youre TylerSeguin... youre a cool guy!

I've been around longer than you think...
- TimThomasLunge

I didn't say anything about that.Ok, now you got me thinking you are someone I know...aka????

nope, I don't think anybody can

Just saying Burke tends to make his big deals when he's the only potential suitor. He doesn't usually win out against other GM's when competing for a player.

Two factors....... well 3 actually now that I think of it, Toronto is a media circus, Burke doesn't believe in cap circumvention and the other teams usually have more depth to offer whether it be current roster players or prospects.

When it comes to the Nash trade (and I don't want him anyways) The only player that puts us even on the radar as the other teams is Jake Gardiner and I would not trade Jake for a 7.8 million dollar almost 30 year old player.
- Sheppy99

Yup
Gardiner is the first young player with REAL potential to hit this team since I was in (frank)ing diapers... And if you believe the hype Gardiner=Schultz (I do) so trading him would be beyond foolish.

I didn't say anything about that.Ok, now you got me thinking you are someone I know...aka????
- sloppyseconds2

UG??????????????

Did Wilson make the Thornton trade? If so that's all he can hang his hat on.... epic fleecing but that's it.
- Mr_Smokey

Yep, that was DW. I give him a lot of credit for the Boyle trade too. People forget about that.

Sharks get: Dan Boyle and Brad Lukowich

Lightning get: Matt Carle, Ty Wishart and 2009 first round pick (Kyle Palmieri)

Lukowich kind of sucked, but without Boyle, we don't reach the WCF either time in the last 3 years.

Weak people whole grudges cause it's easier

forgiving tends to be done by the stronger people since it's harder


- Sheppy99

Thank you. I always tend to go the forgiving way because 1. Its the right way, 2. Often fixes things, 3. You feel better about it then holding a grudge.

Yo EK whats going on with the flyers? are they after Bobby Ryan or the 6th overall?
- baldo14

It's a possibility...but I get the sense the Flyers have a specific player in mind. If that player is on the board at six...all hell will break loose.

Did Wilson make the Thornton trade? If so that's all he can hang his hat on.... epic fleecing but that's it.
- Mr_Smokey

I will say this though, as happy as I am to have Burns on our team, giving up Seto, Coyle, and a 1st was too much.

Whatever dude.
Youre so hung up in the past, its incredible.
Lets see Michael Vick. Im an animal lover, and what he did was cruel, and soany other things. Hes changed, ive put that behind along with his other millions if fans.

People change. Stop living in the past.
- FLYERSROCK!

difference is that wasn't something personal to you, you didn't have to go through the stuff that i have gone through and you wouldn't understand it unless it happened to you or someone very close to you

when it is something that is with you everyday then you would understand and while what vick did was horrible it doesn't compare to rape