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JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
You won't find those in this draft Vince.

The only guy I would even try to trade up for is Faksa.

He can play 3rd line center right now and do very well.
Ask Huddle.

- kingcong39


that was my point... they aren't in this draft.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
If we are trading up for an NHL ready prospect... it is not a defensemen that we need to get...

We need to get the next sidney crosby, evgeni malkin, steven stamkos, john tavares type player.

- JVince117


sorry...the ryan murray part was from the jackets perspective...good chance he'd be their pick at #2 if yakupov went first...

he looks to be nhl-ready and would be with the jackets from the get-go
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
as pointed out, every pick that they gave up were extra from trades...

i believe the odds of a second-rounder making it is like 15 or 20-1 (if somebody has that info feel free to post it,) fourth-rounders are worse

- b0s0o1

whether they were acquired or their picks you should not be giving them up in order to over pay for a mediocure goalie who is never goign to be more than a backup.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
The overall point is how bad Bob is as a goalie, or should I say how mediocre.
- kingcong39


Didn't he man the net for 2 wins against us in the 2010 playoffs?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
The overall point is how bad Bob is as a goalie, or should I say how mediocre.
- kingcong39


*shrugs*

the philly defense was pretty bad last season with the loss of pronger and other injuries...

in the playoffs, the only defense worse was the penguins, and look what it did to fluery
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
at this point i shultz any more ready for the NHL than Pysyk? i really know limited about him but i don't think he has played an nhl game yet, has he?
- SabresFaninIndiana


I don't know. I would think they might be pretty even development wise. Unless we move someone, there's no room in our top 6 anyway, so I would think that Pysyk starts the season in Rochester. I think McNabb is there was well because there's just no room right now.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
Didn't he man the net for 2 wins against us in the 2010 playoffs?
- JVince117

possibly he also got pulled once if not twice.. he can be good but he can't be it for more than 3 games in a row.. maybe buffalo should offer him 6.25 mil per year
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
Didn't he man the net for 2 wins against us in the 2010 playoffs?
- JVince117


Probably... But Buffalo sucks anyways and can't get out of the 1st round.

Let's go Sabres!
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
Probably... But Buffalo sucks anyways and can't get out of the 1st round.

Let's go Sabres!

- jochfr

i think thats a law
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
Didn't he man the net for 2 wins against us in the 2010 playoffs?
- JVince117


We played Boston in the 2010 playoffs.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
sorry...the ryan murray part was from the jackets perspective...good chance he'd be their pick at #2 if yakupov went first...

he looks to be nhl-ready and would be with the jackets from the get-go

- b0s0o1


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh then yes...

CLB already has 17.3M invested in 4 d-men for next year.. if they are gonna move Nash.. they need an NHL ready F to put butts in the seat.

If SJ's offer really is Clowe, Pavelski, Demers, and a 1st rounder..

They would have

Clowe - Pavelski - Huselius
Prospal - Brassard - Umberger (center)?

they need to add a RW to that group.. BAD.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
whether they were acquired or their picks you should not be giving them up in order to over pay for a mediocure goalie who is never goign to be more than a backup.
- SabresFaninIndiana


meh...i hear ya...i just don't think it's that big of a deal
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh then yes...

CLB already has 17.3M invested in 4 d-men for next year.. if they are gonna move Nash.. they need an NHL ready F to put butts in the seat.

If SJ's offer really is Clowe, Pavelski, Demers, and a 1st rounder..

They would have

Clowe - Pavelski - Huselius
Prospal - Brassard - Umberger (center)?

they need to add a RW to that group.. BAD.

- JVince117


I like Clowe and Pavelski, but neither of them are 1st line players.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
We played Boston in the 2010 playoffs.
- HonkFortheGoose


I was going with the year that the season started in..

so yes the 2009-2010 year's playoffs was against Boston..

the 2010-2011 year's playoffs was against Philly...
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
meh...i hear ya...i just don't think it's that big of a deal
- b0s0o1


It's DOMINOES MF'er!!!!
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't know. I would think they might be pretty even development wise. Unless we move someone, there's no room in our top 6 anyway, so I would think that Pysyk starts the season in Rochester. I think McNabb is there was well because there's just no room right now.
- HonkFortheGoose


They are planning on making room Goose.

Weber is definitely gone and looks like another will be out the door as well.
Probably Sekera, per Homer.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
I like Clowe and Pavelski, but neither of them are 1st line players.
- HonkFortheGoose


I thought you were an advocate of getting Pavelski for our first line??

Clowe i read is the only NHLer to score 20 or 25+ goals and be in 30+ fights or something like that.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
They are planning on making room Goose.

Weber is definitely gone and looks like another will be out the door as well.
Probably Sekera, per Homer.

- kingcong39


Awesome!
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
meh...i hear ya...i just don't think it's that big of a deal
- b0s0o1

maybe not but it is also just another one of the stupid things they have done.. when you add them all up it equates a crappy product on the ice..
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
I was going with the year that the season started in..

so yes the 2009-2010 year's playoffs was against Boston..

the 2010-2011 year's playoffs was against Philly...

- JVince117


The Kings are the 2012 Stanley Cup Champions, so that's how I base it. The year the playoffs actually take place.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
They are planning on making room Goose.
Weber is definitely gone and looks like another will be out the door as well.
Probably Sekera, per Homer.

- kingcong39

at 1.4 mil per season?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
They are planning on making room Goose.

Weber is definitely gone and looks like another will be out the door as well.
Probably Sekera, per Homer.

- kingcong39


Planning on and actually happening can be 2 totally different things though. I'll believe it when I see it.
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:43 PM ET

No Homer today?

This is one of his days to shine
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
The overall problem, and to me it's a big one, with the Sabres, more then the D or needing Miller to be consistently better, is the forward group.

Right now, they have two solid lines.

Vanek - Hodgson - Pominville
Foligno - Ennis - Stafford

After that? Scraps.

Roy, Gerbe, Leino, McCormick, Kaleta, and both Adam & Tropp.

Constructing a 4th line is easy.

The big, BIG problem is constructing a solid 3rd line out of the above.
I don't think they can. Not an effective one at least.
Ennis and his line are a perfect 3rd line to me because they will draw the lesser pairing D and can create havoc in the other teams zone.

Who on any 3rd line you can come up with from the parts above is going to scare you due to their effectiveness?
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
Ryan Murray claims that the Blue Jackets brass "grilled him". Yakupov also told Alex Galchenyuk that the management in Columbus is "mean".


Not a very good first impression by the Jackets
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