Is discussing her failed wedding dress store still a banned topic? It was comedy gold for awhile
- S Kaspar Rollins

I'd do Lu for Thornton. Marleau is useless for us for what he brings in the playoffs and at that cap hit. Would rather keep the Luongo-Schneider tandem.
- AlexF

I'd rather not have to pay Luongo for the next decade so I think we can both agree that trade shouldn't happen.

Again, I did say "Apart from Briere."

It's still 40 games with a decent linemate, although, like I said, he's not a pass first. Still Nash put up his worst numbers in years.

I just don't buy the "poor Nash" thing. His linemate woes are exaggerated.
- Fosco

39 games for carter, where he had a monsterous 25 points. so again, he didn't do much with the jackets because he didn't want to be in columbus in the first place. The best player nash has ever played with was ray whitney. the best goalie he's played along side? you choose between Denis, Leclaire or Mason. Jack johnson is the best blueliner the jackets have ever had and he's only 21 games into his blue jacket career.

Philly want to move JVR and Jagr probably not coming back so they need the big forward. He is about the biggest their is.

SJ ,just plain needs a kick start and it makes sense to dump marleau and have Thorton passing to Nash.
- VANTEL

At the price the Jackets want, it would be a dumb deal for the Sharks. I fear out of desperation to save his job, DW might pull the trigger on a Nash deal though.

Vantel, like others, throws out proposals all the time, just for $hits. It's not like most people who make these proposals expect them to happen. It's just to kill time during the doldrums of summer.
- Fosco

Thank you 100 % correct.

We could talk about Komi Kadri and the 35 th again for the 40 th day in a row or someone could throw something else to discuss.

i cant wait to prove that vandel guy or w/e his name is wrong. clowe + havlat for luongo? LOL

it's gonna be a good pick/prospect and a higher salary player going the other way. but according to him, luongo's price has driven up and he's gonna land a huge return
- sensnucksnocups

No location, no designated team, inflammatory name, $hit-stirring rhetoric. Wow.

I'd rather not have to pay Luongo for the next decade so I think we can both agree that trade shouldn't happen.
- sjsharks92

How easy it is to forget that it's a cap cheat contract, now that they're illegal

How easy it is to forget that it's a cap cheat contract, now that they're illegal
- S Kaspar Rollins

Even at 5.3 mil, he's not worth it. At least, he won't be probably by as soon as 2013-2014.

No location, no designated team, inflammatory name, $hit-stirring rhetoric. Wow.
- AlexF

by his user name, leaf fan.

How easy it is to forget that it's a cap cheat contract, now that they're illegal
- S Kaspar Rollins

What's the deal with the much ballyhooed "out clause" in Luongo's contract?

Leafs fans are going to be disappointed

3 blogs in one day? About time you don't stop lagging!!

I'd rather not have to pay Luongo for the next decade so I think we can both agree that trade shouldn't happen.
- sjsharks92

As I posted earlier, he makes 1m each of his last 4 seasons. Either a) he'll retire by then, or b) he plays for your AHL team those last 4 seasons. It's a 6 year contract. And he's a big upgrade on Niemi. Now is he worth Thornton, that's a different topic.

Even at 5.3 mil, he's not worth it. At least, he won't be probably by as soon as 2013-2014.
- sjsharks92

It's designed for a buyout or retirement from 2018 on, so it's basically a 6 year deal

Also, the cap will probably have gone up by so much b that point that 5.3 won't count for much.

At the price the Jackets want, it would be a dumb deal for the Sharks. I fear out of desperation to save his job, DW might pull the trigger on a Nash deal though.
- sjsharks92

I think they would not go for Marleau ,but Pavelski a Prospect and a second and a third .

3 blogs in one day? About time you don't stop lagging!!
- airos5

But have any of them really said anything?

Vantel, like others, throws out proposals all the time, just for $hits. It's not like most people who make these proposals expect them to happen. It's just to kill time during the doldrums of summer.
- Fosco

no, he was dead on serious. we argued back and forth, and i kept saying luongo's contract kills his value, and that there arent many teams interested in him that need a starting goalie and can handle the contract, which is why luongo would fetch a good prospect/pick and a salary dump going the other way. he maintained that luongo is a quality starting goalie that teams are lining up for and would fetch a huge return because the market is thin. the fact is, there is barely a market for luongo, so there is no leverage for the nucks. the only possible teams i see are (in order of likelyhood)

toronto: definitely best fit. leafs need a starting goalie, and can dish out something like kadri/kulemin + armstrong/komisarek as the main pieces
florida: lu would probably waive to go back to florida, maybe for shore + upshall + 2nd
sharks: need of a big shakeup after playoff dissapointments, aquired stuart so murray is no longer needed. niemi + murray?
columbus: would lu waive to go here? doubt it...umberger + calvert/savard?
chicago: hawks desperately need a starter, but the leafs have a better chance at winning the cup than the hawks and nucks making a trade this big.

But have any of them really said anything?
- AlexF

Do they ever?

39 games for carter, where he had a monsterous 25 points. so again, he didn't do much with the jackets because he didn't want to be in columbus in the first place. The best player nash has ever played with was ray whitney. the best goalie he's played along side? you choose between Denis, Leclaire or Mason. Jack johnson is the best blueliner the jackets have ever had and he's only 21 games into his blue jacket career.
- tomburton99

What does the goalie have to do with Nash's output? You can list every player he's ever played with, and while I agree there hasn't been any elite guys, the whole "bad linemate" claim is exaggerated.

Is discussing her failed wedding dress store still a banned topic? It was comedy gold for awhile
- S Kaspar Rollins

I remember that. Yes it was.

no, he was dead on serious. we argued back and forth, and i kept saying luongo's contract kills his value, and that there arent many teams interested in him that need a starting goalie and can handle the contract, which is why luongo would fetch a good prospect/pick and a salary dump going the other way. he maintained that luongo is a quality starting goalie that teams are lining up for and would fetch a huge return because the market is thin. the fact is, there is barely a market for luongo, so there is no leverage for the nucks. the only possible teams i see are (in order of likelyhood)

toronto: definitely best fit. leafs need a starting goalie, and can dish out something like kadri/kulemin + armstrong/komisarek as the main pieces
florida: lu would probably waive to go back to florida, maybe for shore + upshall + 2nd
sharks: need of a big shakeup after playoff dissapointments, aquired stuart so murray is no longer needed. niemi + murray?
columbus: would lu waive to go here? doubt it...umberger + calvert/savard?
chicago: hawks desperately need a starter, but the leafs have a better chance at winning the cup than the hawks and nucks making a trade this big.
- sensnucksnocups

real impact players right their.

I think they would not go for Marleau ,but Pavelski a Prospect and a second and a third .
- VANTEL

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again, I don't care what Howson's asking price is, it's too high for Nash. Pavs alone is a more valuable asset than Nash.
-Plays center and is among the best in the league in the draw circle.
-Scored more points last season than Nash
-Comes at a 3.8 mil cheaper cap hit, on a much shorter contract.

No location, no designated team, inflammatory name, $hit-stirring rhetoric. Wow.
- AlexF

poop-stirring? if you saw all the poop that guy was saying, claiming luongo would fetch clowe + havlat, now that is poop. i was completely realistic, and you'll see when luongo is traded, that my offers are much, MUCH more closer to the return than his was.

no, he was dead on serious. we argued back and forth, and i kept saying luongo's contract kills his value, and that there arent many teams interested in him that need a starting goalie and can handle the contract, which is why luongo would fetch a good prospect/pick and a salary dump going the other way. he maintained that luongo is a quality starting goalie that teams are lining up for and would fetch a huge return because the market is thin. the fact is, there is barely a market for luongo, so there is no leverage for the nucks. the only possible teams i see are (in order of likelyhood)

toronto: definitely best fit. leafs need a starting goalie, and can dish out something like kadri/kulemin + armstrong/komisarek as the main pieces
florida: lu would probably waive to go back to florida, maybe for shore + upshall + 2nd
sharks: need of a big shakeup after playoff dissapointments, aquired stuart so murray is no longer needed. niemi + murray?
columbus: would lu waive to go here? doubt it...umberger + calvert/savard?
chicago: hawks desperately need a starter, but the leafs have a better chance at winning the cup than the hawks and nucks making a trade this big.
- sensnucksnocups

EDIT: Damn, I just read the rest. I really wish you woulda ended the sentence right there.

What does the goalie have to do with Nash's output? You can list every player he's ever played with, and while I agree there hasn't been any elite guys, the whole "bad linemate" claim is exaggerated.
- Fosco

right that's why the drafted so high in every draft. That the blue jackets own fault for draft crap players. but tell, do you think the nucks would a playoff with either of those three in net. i doubt it.