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bcoop
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Aldergrove, BC
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:15 PM ET
I have a question Todd.

Is it common for negotiations with star players to only begin starting a week and a half or so before FA begins?

Just curious.

- StayTunedMTC


I don't think anything about the NJDs season has been common. Look at the turmoil that the owner is experiencing and then you have the on ice success. I would think a captain on a competing team would either be signed very early or very late. Because of the situation with the owner very early wasn't an option.

My question is how do Devils plan see their owner's situation panning out?
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
You'd think that if Parise and NJ really wanted each other that badly this would have been taken care of. And usually a franchise player would be more important than exit interviews...
- J-Dog


Parise was open to talking contract but Lamoriello never talks contract during the season. You're argument is stupid and pointless. We kow a lot more about Lou and the Devils, I believe Brodeur was the only one to have signed an extensions during a season. By the way, have you ever been to New Jersey outside ofNewark? Probably not, and just so you know it is nice place to live with a lot of nice suburbs. Holik, Arnott, and all the other players don't want to come back to New Jersey because it's a "poophole," I believe an ex-Devil had told Gomez not to leave NJ because he would regret it.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
You'd think that if Parise and NJ really wanted each other that badly this would have been taken care of. And usually a franchise player would be more important than exit interviews...
- J-Dog


but look at lou's principles, no contract talks during the season so it wasnt going to be done then, and your not going to talk contract the next day or 2 after the finals

lou still has a good amount of time to get it done, there are other parts of the business that needs to be done and those "deadlines" come before july 1st
J-Dog
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
Cause Lou and Parises agent already came out and said that....
- _Zippy_


And you think GM's and agents tell media people exactly what is really going on?
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
And you think GM's and agents tell media people exactly what is really going on?
- J-Dog


Id trust a gm or agents word more then a (frank)ing rumor with no solid backing
J-Dog
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
Id trust a gm or agents word more then a (frank)ing rumor with no solid backing
- _Zippy_


The rumor is 99% complete BS, not arguing that. I'm saying that nobody really knows anything, i'm not saying that Parise is or isn't getting traded is signed or whatever else.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
The rumor is 99% complete BS, not arguing that. I'm saying that nobody really knows anything, i'm not saying that Parise is or isn't getting traded is signed or whatever else.
- J-Dog


What would the agent or the GM have to gain by saying contract talks haven't started? They said they are going to talk informally at the draft and then go from there.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
Why does anybody think this rumor is true? Parise said he wanted to be traded to a contender, not a lotto candidate.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
Why does anybody think this rumor is true? Parise said he wanted to be traded to a contender, not a lotto candidate.
- Pomegrant


so edmonton it is
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
These fans of other teams coming in here and knowing substantially more about our own team and its inner workings...wow, it's really depressing. I thought for sure I was an informed NJ Devil fan. How sad to find out this isn't so!

And to come to learn that Lou Lams and Wade Arnott are liars?! And Todd Cordell uses no factual information in his blogs and is nothing more than a speculator and charlatan?!

But the fans of other teams, they are NOT! They are the shepherds of truth! Ask them fellow Devils fans! For they obviously know more about NJ, the Devils, and the NHL than our lowly fan base could ever even dream to learn!

Wow. My world has come crashing down. I can't wait to see which team Zachary Justin Parise will play for next season. It's sure to be one of those "other" teams that also happen to have half of his childhood friends on their roster.

Clearly NJ is a horrific franchise and no one would ever want to play there.

They never make the playoffs.
Have never won a Cup.
Have no history whatsoever to suggest they are competent, and above all, have not been to a Stanley Cup Final in recent memory.

Truly truly sad to see the great Zachary Justin Parise move on to "greener" fields.

No rumor is correct if it involves Zach staying in NJ, it just simply can't be! Don't believe me? Ask anyone but a NJ fan! We know nothing!

Oh the humanity!!!!
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
These fans of other teams coming in here and knowing substantially more about our own team and its inner workings...wow, it's really depressing. I thought for sure I was an informed NJ Devil fan. How sad to find out this isn't so!

And to come to learn that Lou Lams and Wade Arnott are liars?! And Todd Cordell uses no factual information in his blogs and is nothing more than a speculator and charlatan?!

But the fans of other teams, they are NOT! They are the shepherds of truth! Ask them fellow Devils fans! For they obviously know more about NJ, the Devils, and the NHL than our lowly fan base could ever even dream to learn!

Wow. My world has come crashing down. I can't wait to see which team Zachary Justin Parise will play for next season. It's sure to be one of those "other" teams that also happen to have half of his childhood friends on their roster.

Clearly NJ is a horrific franchise and no one would ever want to play there.

They never make the playoffs.
Have never won a Cup.
Have no history whatsoever to suggest they are competent, and above all, have not been to a Stanley Cup Final in recent memory.

Truly truly sad to see the great Zachary Justin Parise move on to "greener" fields.

No rumor is correct if it involves Zach staying in NJ, it just simply can't be! Don't believe me? Ask anyone but a NJ fan! We know nothing!

Oh the humanity!!!!

- FLdevilsFAN


whodaknown we got schooled about the team we support and how they run things from guys who dont follow the devils or their workings at all
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
whodaknown we got schooled about the team we support and how they run things from guys who dont follow the devils or their workings at all
- dmarsden2988


oh dear God...I surely will not survive the night with these troubling revelations!
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
John Wayne Avalanche Fan has put us wayward NJ fans in our place. This is concerning to say the least!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
That's what I'm saying. Why would the Devils trade their Captain before even attempting to re-sign him? Literally makes zero sense. Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense.
- Todd.Cordell

Chieppa1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Scott Stevens' gun cabinet., NJ
Joined: 07.05.2008

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
Did Tom from Fire & Ice report anything on this joke of a rumor? No?

Thanks, all I needed to know.

I'm gonna pack for my move to Colorado. I want to get closer to the inter-workings of the NJ Devils organization.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
so edmonton it is
- dmarsden2988

with Toronto close behind
USA_Parise9
Joined: 04.26.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:43 PM ET
When a team is in bankruptcy there are major problems when it comes to signing players and keeping them long term.

Cordell, you contradict your self when you say Devils will resign Parise, but then you go on to say he wont sign if the price is too high for the Devils?

Hate to break it to you but Parise will get close to 8-10 (14 is the highest for any player) a year if Devils are in debt, how do you expect the team to sign him? On a hometown discount?

Not a very good owner if he signs Parise out of desperation mode (just to sign him). Cinncinati Reds Joey Votto resigned with a discount and Joe Mauer of Minnesota Twins resigned for a discount. 2 stupid choices, those teams arent going anywhere for a very long time. NJD will pull the same stunt with Parise

Dont get too butt hurt NJ fans. That is the opinion of everyone besides Devils fans.

Good luck!

shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 21 @ 5:47 PM ET
When a team is in bankruptcy there are major problems when it comes to signing players and keeping them long term.

Cordell, you contradict your self when you say Devils will resign Parise, but then you go on to say he wont sign if the price is too high for the Devils?

Hate to break it to you but Parise will get close to 8-10 (14 is the highest for any player) a year if Devils are in debt, how do you expect the team to sign him? On a hometown discount?

Not a very good owner if he signs Parise out of desperation mode (just to sign him). Cinncinati Reds Joey Votto resigned with a discount and Joe Mauer of Minnesota Twins resigned for a discount. 2 stupid choices, those teams arent going anywhere for a very long time. NJD will pull the same stunt with Parise

Dont get too butt hurt NJ fans. That is the opinion of everyone besides Devils fans.

Good luck!

- USA_Parise9

i like how you choose to ignore the new partners that will be eradicating the said debt.
Chieppa1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Scott Stevens' gun cabinet., NJ
Joined: 07.05.2008

Jun 21 @ 5:57 PM ET
Opinion of everyone other then Devils fans before the season:

Won't make the playoffs.

Hmm..

New owner will liquidate debt. Man, all this folly about our owner situation from a Daily News article lol.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:58 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
Now regarding the situation between #NJDevils and Parise: Lou is trying HARD to the $$ 2 keep Parise.They got creative on Kovy's contract but unlikely they'll strike deal with Parise. Expected to test market July1
Chieppa1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Scott Stevens' gun cabinet., NJ
Joined: 07.05.2008

Jun 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
Now regarding the situation between #NJDevils and Parise: Lou is trying HARD to the $$ 2 keep Parise.They got creative on Kovy's contract but unlikely they'll strike deal with Parise. Expected to test market July1

- flyerscup2011


Isn't this the same guy that said Brandon Duby has been in rehab in the off-season for a small drug problem? Yup. #RealTalk.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 6:09 PM ET
Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr
Now regarding the situation between #NJDevils and Parise: Lou is trying HARD to the $$ 2 keep Parise.They got creative on Kovy's contract but unlikely they'll strike deal with Parise. Expected to test market July1

- flyerscup2011


yes trust guys that spell hockey with 2 y's and insider with 2 r's
Nez1976
Colorado Avalanche
Location: FL
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
Even if this trade was true I doubt anyone would know about it until it's official. The Devils and the Avs are two of the most secretive franchises out there. I doubt anyone, other than head office staff, know what is really going on with Parise.
- J-Dog



This
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 21 @ 6:29 PM ET
I won't quibble with NJ's earnestness to sign him or Zack's loyalty.

However, I think the likelihood of his signing with a team that trades for his rights depends on the team and what they offer him.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 21 @ 6:36 PM ET
Parise will not sign anywhere before July 1st. Why would he allow himself to get this close to free agency and not at least see what kind of offers pour in? I'm not saying he absolutely wouldn't re-sign with NJ, but let's face it, anyone in his shoes would be at least a little bit curious about what kind of offers he'll get.

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