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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
Interesting take from Gregors stating that he thinks Galy is in the mix... he lists the top 3 and Stu evidently told him its the closest its ever been and that Yaks is not a slam dunk...
- saskoil21

I don't think Galy is in. I think it's Yak and Grigorenko and Murray(only because of need).
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
I agree with this.

Im not saying what Tambo has done is stupid. He has three stars in the making by sitting on his hands. But I also believe that nearly anyone could do what Tambo has done.

- Leafs43

I don't know. Burke hasn't been able to just sit back and wait when he should've, Howson hasn't either. People think it's easy to sit back and do nothing, but these two guys proved that it isn't that easy.
Allstarzz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.28.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Gagner: 8 points on feb.2, 7 points in last 23 games played. Worth an 8th overall pick? What a joke.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
Gagner: 8 points on feb.2, 7 points in last 23 games played. Worth an 8th overall pick? What a joke.
- Allstarzz



Here we go again... I do not recall any LEAF PLAYERS at the NHL awards featured as HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR like SAMMY GAGNER was... that ALONE is worth a TOP 3 pick
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
I don't know. Burke hasn't been able to just sit back and wait when he should've, Howson hasn't either. People think it's easy to sit back and do nothing, but these two guys proved that it isn't that easy.
- Lahey


Burke is just that type of person though. Impatient.

I should have said any patient person could do what Tambo has done.
Oilersforlife
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Rooming with Richard in his Mo, AB
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Gagner: 8 points on feb.2, 7 points in last 23 games played. Worth an 8th overall pick? What a joke.
- Allstarzz



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saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer
According to Edmonton Oilers Head Amateur Scout Stu MacGregor the Oilers are down to 2 players for the #1 pick



I know I know- we all knew this...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:54 AM ET

- Oilersforlife[/URL]




damn ur creative
Oilersforlife
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Rooming with Richard in his Mo, AB
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
TreenaOil said yesterday that Van's asking price for Luongo is our Pick, Franchise player for Franchise player. Who would have thought the worst trade I would ever hear in my life would in fact not come from hockeybuzz.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
Bruce McCurdy ‏@BruceMcCurdy
CULT OF HOCKEY: Report: Ralph Krueger has inside track to be head coach of the Edmonton Oilers http://shar.es/sCI7W by @BruceMcCurdy

Oilersforlife
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Rooming with Richard in his Mo, AB
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
damn ur creative
- saskoil21


Thank you sir but I must admit I did not make this I just pulled it off a website.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
TreenaOil said yesterday that Van's asking price for Luongo is our Pick, Franchise player for Franchise player. Who would have thought the worst trade I would ever hear in my life would in fact not come from hockeybuzz.
- Oilersforlife



No poop... Gillis would be a supreme (frank)ing idiot if that was the request...
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jun 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
Again, if you read what I said about Turris, I didn't say the Oilers should trade for him, I pointed out that Murray identified a need and addressed it with a long term solution. Pro-active Gm'ing.
- Lohaus

I get what you are saying, but Tambi is in a world of poop. He came to a team with no real core to build around, a split locker room and no great prospect pool. He has moved out bad attitudes and at least tried to address toughness (Sutton, Eager) and poor f/o % (Belanger) took a no cost risk on a potential Dman (Barker) Not all this worked but he is not just sitting there mortgaging the future on big name free agents with draft picks. The prospects look good again and there is great potential for this team moving forward. As Lahey said before now is the time to make some acquisitions to make this team competitive. I appreciate not going Burke and selling the farm for a failed quick fix. Could Tambi have done things better? Of coarse he could. He stated from the start this was a full rebuild.
I am not sure why I am defending this so much as i think he could have done a better job, but it is not nearly as bad as you seem to think. I can guarantee you would not have done any better.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
I get what you are saying, but Tambi is in a world of poop. He came to a team with no real core to build around, a split locker room and no great prospect pool. He has moved out bad attitudes and at least tried to address toughness (Sutton, Eager) and poor f/o % (Belanger) took a no cost risk on a potential Dman (Barker) Not all this worked but he is not just sitting there mortgaging the future on big name free agents with draft picks. The prospects look good again and there is great potential for this team moving forward. As Lahey said before now is the time to make some acquisitions to make this team competitive. I appreciate not going Burke and selling the farm for a failed quick fix. Could Tambi have done things better? Of coarse he could. He stated from the start this was a full rebuild.
I am not sure why I am defending this so much as i think he could have done a better job, but it is not nearly as bad as you seem to think. I can guarantee you would not have done any better.

- abware


This.... Which team would you rather have going fwd- Leafs or the Oil.... Its kind of a slam dunk... Seguin sure would look good in blue and white now wouldnt he??
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Burke is just that type of person though. Impatient.

I should have said any patient person could do what Tambo has done.

- Leafs43

That's just it, GM's aren't patient. Not as easy as people think. I will say this if ST does very little and we are a bottom 3 team again then I'm all for firing him, in fact it's been said a few times that he'll be gone.

With that being said I expect him to actually make moves this year. He's actually talked about it this year too, unlike past year.
Oilersforlife
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Rooming with Richard in his Mo, AB
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
No poop... Gillis would be a supreme (frank)ing idiot if that was the request...
- saskoil21



According to TreenasOil that was a direct quote. Who knows how reliable this TreenasOil is but they seem to have some inside knowledge. They also state that Sam G for Carolina's 8 th is on the table and the Oil are mulling it over. Personally I wouldn't do it unless grigerenko or reinhart is available. Likely neither will be.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Again, if you read what I said about Turris, I didn't say the Oilers should trade for him, I pointed out that Murray identified a need and addressed it with a long term solution. Pro-active Gm'ing.
- Lohaus

I didn't say Turris either, I said Rundblad, who was apparently available for a Turrisesque price (Gagner) but wouldn't have helped us that much.

Honestly, short of selling the farm for Carter and Richards, who has been available that helps the rebuild?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
That's just it, GM's aren't patient. Not as easy as people think. I will say this if ST does very little and we are a bottom 3 team again then I'm all for firing him, in fact it's been said a few times that he'll be gone.

With that being said I expect him to actually make moves this year. He's actually talked about it this year too, unlike past year.

- Lahey


I guess we will see then.

The funny thing is, if he is fired, and EDM goes on to win the cup with a new GM, everyone will claim it was Tambi who built the team.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
I guess we will see then.

The funny thing is, if he is fired, and EDM goes on to win the cup with a new GM, everyone will claim it was Tambi who built the team.

- Leafs43

Well I don't know if you call it building, but he laid it out. It was his idea to stop go after big name UFA's, although Bulin failing(which sounded like wasn't his choice) probably helped his cause.
Oilersforlife
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Rooming with Richard in his Mo, AB
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
That's just it, GM's aren't patient. Not as easy as people think. I will say this if ST does very little and we are a bottom 3 team again then I'm all for firing him, in fact it's been said a few times that he'll be gone.

With that being said I expect him to actually make moves this year. He's actually talked about it this year too, unlike past year.

- Lahey



People forget that most GM's have a 2 to 3 year shelf life. It would be tough not to mortgage the future for a short term boost purley in the intrest of self preservation. If it doesn't work out who really cares? chances are you aren't going to stay long enough to see such trades bite you in the ass. Burke is famous for this. ST has has the rare luxery of patients from the fans and the organization. I for one am happy he hasn't made any hasty moves so far.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
People forget that most GM's have a 2 to 3 year shelf life. It would be tough not to mortgage the future for a short term boost purley in the intrest of self preservation. If it doesn't work out who really cares? chances are you aren't going to stay long enough to see such trades bite you in the ass. Burke is famous for this. ST has has the rare luxery of patients from the fans and the organization. I for one am happy he hasn't made any hasty moves so far.
- Oilersforlife

One of the reasons he's gotten that luxury is because Lowe set him up. Before ST was hired Lowe locked everyone up thus making ST deal with it. Then it's been rumored his first off-season that Lowe wanted Bulin. Pretty sure ST told Katz to look at the situation and give him a chance to do things his way. Let the slow rebuild happen.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
According to TreenasOil that was a direct quote. Who knows how reliable this TreenasOil is but they seem to have some inside knowledge. They also state that Sam G for Carolina's 8 th is on the table and the Oil are mulling it over. Personally I wouldn't do it unless grigerenko or reinhart is available. Likely neither will be.
- Oilersforlife


I wouldn't mind grabbing Faska at 8, but I wouldn't trade Gagner for it because Faska isn't playing here next year.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
A lot of the great UFA acquisitions of the past couple of years have sought to complement cores that already exist, as opposed to bringing in a saviour (see Brad Richards, Hossa twice). A lot of the trade acquisitions too are about adding to a core (Kovalchuk, Carter and Richards by LA).

The Oilers had a terrible core when they were trying to add Heatley. I don't think that the lack of UFA and Trade eagerness Tambs has shown while building the core really speaks to what he will or won't do once this group starts to gel.
Seldom Beaton
Location: Cincinatti
Joined: 08.12.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:27 PM ET
I made a comment on Twitter the other day questioning if Oilers Cult of Hockey/Oilers Nation blogger Jonathan Willis knows anything at all about the team.

Last year or the season before, they had a little contest at Oilers Nation.
Everyone, the bloggers and the commenters, guestimated how many points, Goals & Assists, a bunch of players from the Oiler's roster would get that season.

Willis won hands down.

The guy knows his stuff.

He pisses people off because he never responds to things like a Fanboy.

Assertions have to be proven, not just repeated loudly and often.
ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:27 PM ET
Gagner: 8 points on feb.2, 7 points in last 23 games played. Worth an 8th overall pick? What a joke.
- Allstarzz


Would you say bozak is worth the 8th overall?
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