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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:38 AM ET
Agent and the way the market works. This isn't rocket science. Would you sign before you had multiple offers to drive up price? Of course not. The player wants maximum value AND a good fit.
- TNGuy04


The possibility of what he could get July 1st would drive up the price already. If Nashville could possibly have this done if they wanted to pay him big $$$. Maybe Poile has already offered that, and Suter has turned it down?

I think the way Poile handled the Weber thing last off season really had a negative effect in all of this. Coupled with the fact that Nashville has no real top tier forwards, I don't think things are looking up for Nashville in regards to re-signing Suter and even Weber.

Maybe Weber stays one more season? I know if Suter leaves, and someone offer sheets Weber with a price high enough to get 4 1st round picks in return, I'd take the picks and get ready to rebuild.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:41 AM ET
Hi Ekolb

Still smoke free?

- Ogilthorpe2


G'morning Ogie.

I am. So far so good. If I keep hearing about Luongo in Chicago, I might loose my mind though. Even more so than I already have.

How's things with you?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 21 @ 9:42 AM ET
I don't think Suter gets $8 mill and probably not $7 mill per on a longer deal...and it would not be an offer sheet....You probably meant offer.

All signs are Suter is going to sign a 7-10 year contract....

- Al


, 8m for Weber as an offer sheet not Suter as FA. I think Weber is better than Suter, this was in reference to Detroit losing out on Suter
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:46 AM ET
, 8m for Weber as an offer sheet not Suter as FA. I think Weber is better than Suter, this was in reference to Detroit losing out on Suter
- mrpaulish


Perhaps Detroit doesn't get in on Suter at all? Maybe they go after Parise, and a different defenseman like Garrison or Wideman, and wait until next summer to make a run at Weber?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:48 AM ET
, 8m for Weber as an offer sheet not Suter as FA. I think Weber is better than Suter, this was in reference to Detroit losing out on Suter
- mrpaulish



I doubt you'll see an offer sheet for Weber. They rarely work and are hardly used. He'd be traded before it got to an offer sheet. Jmo.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:49 AM ET
Gomez ?
- southernhawk


Yeah, that contract was a real winner too!

Right along with Chris Drury.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 21 @ 9:52 AM ET
, 8m for Weber as an offer sheet not Suter as FA. I think Weber is better than Suter, this was in reference to Detroit losing out on Suter
- mrpaulish


Oh sorry...I don't think they will do that.
shruew
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.08.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:57 AM ET
Does any awful contract even compare to DiPietro's?
- InvisibleOrange


Alexei Yashin's has to come a close second. STILL on the Islander's books for three more seasons.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:02 AM ET
People who are proposing Luongo trades, please stop. His contract is TOXIC. Yes, i get he is a better goalie than crawford, but we only have to worry about 2 more years of him, even now he is movable if need be.

Why do you think people arent falling over trying to get him, he is definitely an upgrade for more than half the NHL teams in net if they wanted to

We already dealt with Huet

Can you imagine if we get the Luongo that blackhawks fans know? Bowman would get lynched. We are sucked into that contract for the LONG haul.


Too much money, too much ice cream brain, too long. Whats the point of having a 40 win goalie if you know he will melt down at some point during the playoffs?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:03 AM ET
People who are proposing Luongo trades, please stop. His contract is TOXIC. Yes, i get he is a better goalie than crawford, but we only have to worry about 2 more years of him, even now he is movable if need be.

We already dealt with Huet

Can you imagine if we get the Luongo that blackhawks fans know? Bowman would get lynched. We are sucked into that contract for the LONG haul.


Too much money, too much ice cream brain, too long. Whats the point of having a 40 win goalie if you know he will melt down at some point during the playoffs?

- FourFeathers773


This!
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:07 AM ET
Excuses!

I loathe hearing this. SB had choices..... He made the wrong ones. Are you saying SB couldn't have traded Kane at $6.3 million for a kings ransom at that time and kept Ladd ($1.5), Buff ($3), and Versteeg ($3)? Or that he HAD to re-sign hammer on SJ's terms at $3.5 mil (instead of taking 1st and 3rd round compensation picks)? If SB was patient and held out as much as possible the cap went up the following season and maybe the hawks look like this now:

Sharp-Toews-Versteeg
Ladd-Bolland-Hossa

Keith-Seabs
Campbell-Buff

+ whatever return he'd have got from trading Kane.

That's just one scenario that SB COULD have done. There are more. He HAD choices. He CHOSE to liquidate the team at bargain prices.

Face it...... He did a crap job of unloading solid talent (buff, Ladd, Versteeg, Brouwer, Campbell, niemi) for what? Just Stalberg? in two seasons not one other player he traded for has cracked the NHL. That's unacceptable!

I don't really care what your response is cause it will just be another SB spoon-fed excuse.

- moylander


He COULD have done that. But there was no guarantee that Campbell would have been traded the year later. So what happens when Buff and Ladd are both free agents? Then you lose, Kane, Buff, and/or Ladd by year 2. Versteeg was never really important to me. So if the choice was to keep one of Kane, Buff, or Ladd. I keep Kane. Especially after he scored the cup clinching goal. Could you imagine trading your American born superstar after he scored the cup clinching goal?

If you want to say SB was dumb for not expecting a Hammer offersheet, then I agree with you. But trading Versteeg and Buff were 100% givens. I think they were actually planning on keeping Ladd until that Hammer offer sheet.
TyCamScore
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:10 AM ET
G'morning Ogie.

I am. So far so good. If I keep hearing about Luongo in Chicago, I might loose my mind though. Even more so than I already have.

How's things with you?

- EKolb13


Ek - we're in the same boat with the Luongo crap and the smoke-free battle as well. I'm going on 2 weeks... stay strong brother.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:11 AM ET
Ek - we're in the same boat with the Luongo crap and the smoke-free battle as well. I'm going on 2 weeks... stay strong brother.
- TyCamScore


Amen! You hang in there too.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
Alexei Yashin's has to come a close second. STILL on the Islander's books for three more seasons.
- shruew


Yep....And he couldn't blame chronic injuries.

I think most don't realize how long it takes to pay off bad contacts by buying them out...

That's why it is always done as a last resort.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Yep....And he couldn't blame chronic injuries.

I think most don't realize how long it takes to pay off bad contacts by buying them out...

That's why it is always done as a last resort.

- Al


Worst contracts, in no order have to be:

Luongo
Dipietro
Yashin
Gomez
Drury
Bouwmeester
Huet
Redden

southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jun 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Morning ,AL JJ y'all hearing any new rumors this morning ?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
We've talked about the Flyers moves before and I'm still of the same opinion.

I think the Flyers made out great, the roster is very well balanced IMO.. but now that the Kings won the Cup with Carter and Richards, they end up the winner until Philly can win one with the players they got in the deals..

I give Holmgren a great deal of respect for the balls he's had over the last couple of years..

What do you think of the Nash and Philly stuff?

- pri$ey


Agreed 100%
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
People who are proposing Luongo trades, please stop. His contract is TOXIC. Yes, i get he is a better goalie than crawford, but we only have to worry about 2 more years of him, even now he is movable if need be.

Why do you think people arent falling over trying to get him, he is definitely an upgrade for more than half the NHL teams in net if they wanted to

We already dealt with Huet

Can you imagine if we get the Luongo that blackhawks fans know? Bowman would get lynched. We are sucked into that contract for the LONG haul.


Too much money, too much ice cream brain, too long. Whats the point of having a 40 win goalie if you know he will melt down at some point during the playoffs?

- FourFeathers773

Sort of thought he was a head-case when he cried after the Kaner hat-trick game in 2009. Then in 2011 he commented to the press about TT not complimenting him, it was solidified: Bobbi Lu is a basket case.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
Morning ,AL JJ y'all hearing any new rumors this morning ?
- southernhawk


Go check out the new blog.
hawks2010
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
FWIW, Scott Morrison on AM590 in Toronto on Hockey Central said there is a rumor between Columbus and Chicago in a swap of Kane and Nash, and San Jose talking with Chicago about Hjalmarsson.
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