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Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:39 AM ET
I agree with all saying Quick should have won, sadly it was very evident that King Henry would take the hardware(based on his nom for the Hart). The Karlsson pick for the Norris made me shake my head a little bit too. This is a very average, if not below average defender that just put up points(hello Mike Green). But then, if Lindstrom can win it with a +/- in the red, then what does this trophy really stand for??
- taleisyreXIII


Henrik is a worthy winner, just not who I would have gone with.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:13 AM ET




The mans speeches are classic.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
Henrik is a worthy winner, just not who I would have gone with.
- Gunner Staal


Gunner, if Staal is traded does your HockeyBuzz last name change ?
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
I agree with all saying Quick should have won, sadly it was very evident that King Henry would take the hardware(based on his nom for the Hart). The Karlsson pick for the Norris made me shake my head a little bit too. This is a very average, if not below average defender that just put up points(hello Mike Green). But then, if Lindstrom can win it with a +/- in the red, then what does this trophy really stand for??
- taleisyreXIII


I haven't detected that Karlsson is overly deficient defensively and he had such a superior year from an offensive output that it seems justified that he would win this award (until there is a distinction between offensive d-men and the alternative, you are going to see different styles winning the award). Guys like Karlsson are incredibly valuable -- look at the #'s that some are talking about Letang getting paid when his contract is up. He isn't exactly what I would call strong in his own end.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
Gunner, if Staal is traded does your HockeyBuzz last name change ?
- MadCap2008


Good question, havent really given it much thought. High chance that no change is made. If I made the name correct from the start it would have been Gunnar Stahl.

Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
I haven't detected that Karlsson is overly deficient defensively and he had such a superior year from an offensive output that it seems justified that he would win this award (until there is a distinction between offensive d-men and the alternative, you are going to see different styles winning the award). Guys like Karlsson are incredibly valuable -- look at the #'s that some are talking about Letang getting paid when his contract is up. He isn't exactly what I would call strong in his own end.
- MadCap2008


I think Letang is very good in his own end. My nitpicking with him is offensive related, gets a little too cute sometimes.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
Letang >>>>> Karlsson when it comes to defensive ability. Its hard to argue the numbers Karlsson put up last year, but he really has a ways to go in his end.

Also this is a pretty good (warning: very advanced stats centric) write up on Karlsson's season

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...he-erik-karlsson-contract
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
Letang >>>>> Karlsson when it comes to defensive ability. Its hard to argue the numbers Karlsson put up last year, but he really has a ways to go in his end.

Also this is a pretty good (warning: very advanced stats centric) write up on Karlsson's season

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...he-erik-karlsson-contract

- Deadstar



Karlsson had a great year and deserved the Norris. But to even put him and Letang in the same sentence regarding defensive zone play is silly.

Interesting stat breakdown, thanks.
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