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- jugkope

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- jugkope

Except Landeskog is gonna take it home and Read and Henrique will battle it out for 2nd and 3rd...

no one even comes close to the impact that Landeskog had this year...

Except Landeskog is gonna take it home and Read and Henrique will battle it out for 2nd and 3rd...

no one even comes close to the impact that Landeskog had this year...
- JVince117

that is debatable

and read isnt a finalist

Except Landeskog is gonna take it home and Read and Henrique will battle it out for 2nd and 3rd...

no one even comes close to the impact that Landeskog had this year...
- JVince117

It's a quote. I'm on the pro-Landeskog side. But it's a very funny quote

Except Landeskog is gonna take it home and Read and Henrique will battle it out for 2nd and 3rd...

no one even comes close to the impact that Landeskog had this year...
- JVince117

Oh being a number one center on a playoff team i guess doesn't count? Kovy and Zach were carrying him...Thats right.

My Brewers will win the series today... giving up 6 HRs to them last night was ridiculous...
- JVince117

By "ridiculous" do you really mean "franking awesome!"?

haglin>read>poop>henrique
- dmarsden2988

That pretty well sums it up

What if I reported your post.

- _Zippy_

that whole string of comments confused me so much

My short case as to why Henrique should win Calder:

- He was tied for first in the NHL with Zach Parise for most short-handed points (7). Landeskog, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and other top Calder candidates had two or three.

- He had 43 non-powerplay points, which led all rookies.

- He was the first line center on a playoff team.

- Only Nugent-Hopkins had a higher points per 82 games ratio

Ok so what about this:

- Henrique played with 2 all star wingers (landdy did not)
- plus/minus
- GWG
- Goals
- Hits
- Takeaways
- Points
- only 19 (Henrique is 22, thats a big differance in there development!)

all examples of why Landeskog should/will win, nothing against Henrique and Nudge. Landeskog done more or just as much with less.

Henriique had:
Kovy 83pts
Parise 69pts

Nudge had:
Eberle 76pts
Hall 53pts

Landeskog had:
O'Rielly 55pts
Downie 41pts

Clearly there was more offensive talent on Henrique and Nudges lines this past year!
- jonathonpeddle

The points per game ratio of Nuge's linemates was only .08 less than Kovy and Parise. Kovy had 27 points on the PP, Parise 14, which Henrique did not play with them for.

And wasn't downie a TDL acquisition?

The points per game ratio of Nuge's linemates was only .08 less than Kovy and Parise. Kovy had 27 points on the PP, Parise 14, which Henrique did not play with them for.

And wasn't downie a TDL acquisition?
- rmdevil313

RNH actually didn't play with Hall that much even strength. He did play a lot with him on the PP, but the PP was definitely more dangerous with him in the lineup than out of it. I think the top unit was feeding as much off him as he was off them.

Anyone see the new rules from the BoG meeting? Not so sure how I feel about them

"For Rule 67, a penalty now will be issued any time a player places his hand over the puck while it is on the ice in order to conceal it from an opponent or prevent an opponent from playing the puck. For Rule 76, a delay of game penalty now will be issued to any player taking a faceoff who uses his hand to direct the puck in any direction."

RNH actually didn't play with Hall that much even strength. He did play a lot with him on the PP, but the PP was definitely more dangerous with him in the lineup than out of it. I think the top unit was feeding as much off him as he was off them.
- Morris

His most frequent even strength line: Hall-Nuge-Eberle at 46%
PP- Hall-Nuge Eberle-Horcoff 66%

Anyone see the new rules from the BoG meeting? Not so sure how I feel about them

"For Rule 67, a penalty now will be issued any time a player places his hand over the puck while it is on the ice in order to conceal it from an opponent or prevent an opponent from playing the puck. For Rule 76, a delay of game penalty now will be issued to any player taking a faceoff who uses his hand to direct the puck in any direction."
- bobert836

I like it.

Anyone see the new rules from the BoG meeting? Not so sure how I feel about them

"For Rule 67, a penalty now will be issued any time a player places his hand over the puck while it is on the ice in order to conceal it from an opponent or prevent an opponent from playing the puck. For Rule 76, a delay of game penalty now will be issued to any player taking a faceoff who uses his hand to direct the puck in any direction."
- bobert836

stupid... first one i can live with, second one is just dumb, as a center this doesnt impress me. Out of all the issues this league has those must of been pressing issues.

His most frequent even strength line: Hall-Nuge-Eberle
PP- Hall-Nuge Eberle-Horcoff
- rmdevil313

He played just as much with Ebs and someone else (Smyth, Jones, Gagner) as he did with Ebs and Hall.

For comparison, Henrique played twice as much even strength with Parise and Kovy as Nuge did with Hall and Ebs.

wow its hot outside


2 days till the draft, do we have ANY idea who we are going after? any rumbles if we are going to move up in the draft?

stupid... first one i can live with, second one is just dumb, as a center this doesnt impress me. Out of all the issues this league has those must of been pressing issues.
- Bowkes

thats kinda the way I'm feeling about it too

His most frequent even strength line: Hall-Nuge-Eberle at 46%
PP- Hall-Nuge Eberle-Horcoff 66%
- rmdevil313

what site are you using? I have different findings for sure.

It should be noted that there were 30 games this season where Nuge and/or Hall were injured, so if we see a high percentage of minutes played with Nuge and Hall, it doesn't necessarily mean they had a high number of minutes played together.

I'll give you that Nuge and Eberle were rarely separated though.

He played just as much with Ebs and someone else (Smyth, Jones, Gagner) as he did with Ebs and Hall.

For comparison, Henrique played twice as much even strength with Parise and Kovy as Nuge did with Hall and Ebs.
- Morris

Don't you think that could be because of injury? Also, his production was at its best the more he played with Hall and Eberle.

what site are you using? I have different findings for sure.

It should be noted that there were 30 games this season where Nuge and/or Hall were injured, so if we see a high percentage of minutes played with Nuge and Hall, it doesn't necessarily mean they had a high number of minutes played together.

I'll give you that Nuge and Eberle were rarely separated though.
- Morris

Dobberhockey. It shows frequency of a players linemates.

Don't you think that could be because of injury? Also, his production was at its best the more he played with Hall and Eberle.
- rmdevil313

see my addendum above.

I'm not saying he didn't benefit from them (he did), but I'm sure you get frustrated when people talk about Parise and Kovy gifting Henrique points. There's some give and take there, and RNH definitely pulled his weight.

Dobberhockey. It shows frequency of a players linemates.
- rmdevil313

It seems I have to be a member to get more than the last three games. In any case, I think (like Henrique) Nuge pulled his own this year, and the linemates argument is overrated.

see my addendum above.

I'm not saying he didn't benefit from them (he did), but I'm sure you get frustrated when people talk about Parise and Kovy gifting Henrique points. There's some give and take there, and RNH definitely pulled his weight.
- Morris

I'm making this argument because I don't think either were pulled by their linemates. Its simply only Henrque gets pegged as being helped by his linemates, yet both played with talented players. Both players deserved to be on the top line and I don't think it should be taken into consideration for either.

I'm making this argument because I don't think either were pulled by their linemates. Its simply only Henrque gets pegged as being helped by his linemates. Both players deserved to be on the top line and I don't think it should be taken into consideration for either.
- rmdevil313

Landeskog also had more TOI per game then either RNH or Henrique

I'm making this argument because I don't think either were pulled by their linemates. Its simply only Henrque gets pegged as being helped by his linemates, yet both played with talented players. Both players deserved to be on the top line and I don't think it should be taken into consideration for either.
- rmdevil313

Totally, I agree. They both earned it, and Nuge shouldn't be said to have had less "help" than Henrique. The only thing I could possibly say is that Kovy and Parise are better defensively than Hall and Ebs, then again Nuge's zonestart was easier than Henrique's.

Everyone from the Landy camp acting like Landeskog had no one forgets that Hejduk and O'Reilly aren't slouches and he had Stastny on the PP.