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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:51 PM ET
So, I was with you on the whole why move a player for the sake of moving a player blah blah blah, but why you would prefer Ballard's hernia/concussion history with his $4.2 million price tag over Edler's suspect back and $3.25 millon price tag is beyond me. I get that Edler will be due a raise next year, but seriously, you think Ballard has the potential to outperform Edler? Whatever our dreams are, neither of these guys are going to get you Weber, not without a whole lot more added in.
- 1970vintage


We have no use for Ballard .Waste of a slot as long as AV is here. Very good points.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
So, I was with you on the whole why move a player for the sake of moving a player blah blah blah, but why you would prefer Ballard's hernia/concussion history with his $4.2 million price tag over Edler's suspect back and $3.25 millon price tag is beyond me. I get that Edler will be due a raise next year, but seriously, you think Ballard has the potential to outperform Edler? Whatever our dreams are, neither of these guys are going to get you Weber, not without a whole lot more added in.
- 1970vintage



Whoa whoa whoa....slow your role, at what point did I ever say Ballard would outperform edler? Never said it. You have to give something to get something that's why you move edler over Ballard. I just think Ballard can offer more than what he has been given credit for....


It feels like you pulled a vantel and selectively read my post. I did mention how unlikely it would be to trade for weber. My point is simply that we need a stud number 1 dman not another player to slot in at 4/5 when we have a guy like Ballard already.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
Whoa whoa whoa....slow your role, at what point did I ever say Ballard would outperform edler? Never said it. You have to give something to get something that's why you move edler over Ballard. I just think Ballard can offer more than what he has been given credit for....
- chompsey


No one is arguing whether Ballard can play ,the question is will he play. History with him and AV shows chances are not too good.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
What a stupid article. Everybody knows that the only team even remotely interested in Luongo is Toronto and due to that fact, Burke is holding all the cards and Luongo's value has been completly diminished to nothing more then a salary dump in return.
- fiveandagame


We all know that for an absolute fact do we? Ok...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:08 PM ET
Whoa whoa whoa....slow your role, at what point did I ever say Ballard would outperform edler? Never said it. You have to give something to get something that's why you move edler over Ballard. I just think Ballard can offer more than what he has been given credit for....


It feels like you pulled a vantel and selectively read my post. I did mention how unlikely it would be to trade for weber. My point is simply that we need a stud number 1 dman not another player to slot in at 4/5 when we have a guy like Ballard already.....

- chompsey


Like you have selectively read mine in the past too . I have said a trade before of Edler Burrows for Weber a few times and you have jumped on me like a 2 dollar hooker. Can't work both ways. I even pointed out about the back issues and now you come back with the same proposals
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
Wyatt Arndt‏@TheStanchion

New Plan: Win Stanley Cup with both Schneider and Luongo on the team, then call up Florida and Toronto and ask them how their season went
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
Spector's Hockey ‏@SpectorsHockey
TSN insider Darren Dreger reports Panthers have limited interest in Luongo (salary issues), no meaningful negotiations. Ditto with Leafs.


I wouldn't take everything Dreger says straight to the bank by any means, but the Luongo saga is likely to drag on all summer.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:18 PM ET
Spector's Hockey ‏@SpectorsHockey
TSN insider Darren Dreger reports Panthers have limited interest in Luongo (salary issues), no meaningful negotiations. Ditto with Leafs.


I wouldn't take everything Dreger says straight to the bank by any means, but the Luongo saga is likely to drag on all summer.

- AlexF



Lu to CBJ or join Naslund Jensen and Pahsson in Modo (On Loan)
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
Lu to CBJ or join Naslund Jensen and Pahsson in Modo (On Loan)
- VANTEL


I actually really like the CBJ option. Not sure if Luongo does though!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
I actually really like the CBJ option. Not sure if Luongo does though!
- AlexF


Tell him Lu its CBJ or Modo , his only two choices. He only has NTC not NMC. Get Nazzy to p/u 3.5 mil of his salary . We get the cap space they get a good goalie and Swedes love the Canucks .
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:27 PM ET
Tell him Lu its CBJ or Modo , his only two choices. He only has NTC not NMC. Get Nazzy to p/u 3.5 mil of his salary . We get the cap space they get a good goalie and Swedes love the Canucks .
- VANTEL


He'd love the women there I have no doubt.

If there's nothing out there I just say we role both goalies. They seem to get along really well on a personal level. Split the starts and rock the league.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:28 PM ET
He'd love the women there I have no doubt.

If there's nothing out there I just say we role both goalies. They seem to get along really well on a personal level. Split the starts and rock the league.

- AlexF


Or that
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 20 @ 6:30 PM ET
What a stupid article. Everybody knows that the only team even remotely interested in Luongo is Toronto and due to that fact, Burke is holding all the cards and Luongo's value has been completly diminished to nothing more then a salary dump in return.
- fiveandagame



Its a good article... there is some other potential suitors as well with the likes of NJ (next year) ... you never know with some teams... one team like detroit may even move Howard and then bring in Lu.. (unlikely) but wouldn't be the craziest scenario.

There is also the idea that if no good offer is out there... Gillis can wait... or can look at moving Schneider.. which I realize some people believe is the worst possible scenario.. but it is a possible scenario.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:31 PM ET
Tell him Lu its CBJ or Modo , his only two choices. He only has NTC not NMC. Get Nazzy to p/u 3.5 mil of his salary . We get the cap space they get a good goalie and Swedes love the Canucks .
- VANTEL


Lu is moving to San Jose. It's hot like Florida. Niemi is a bum.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:32 PM ET


Its a good article... there is some other potential suitors as well with the likes of NJ (next year) ... you never know with some teams... one team like detroit may even move Howard and then bring in Lu.. (unlikely) but wouldn't be the craziest scenario.There is also the idea that if no good offer is out there... Gillis can wait... or can look at moving Schneider.. which I realize some people believe is the worst possible scenario.. but it is a possible scenario.

- kneughter


The craziest one was Komi Army and a second and the next craziest was send him on loan to Modo
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
Lu is moving to San Jose. It's hot like Florida. Niemi is a bum.
- micah555


I wish
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
Spector's Hockey‏@SpectorsHockey

Dreger doubt #Panthers can afford Jason Garrison, which could see Tallon trade his negotiating rights
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
Lu is moving to San Jose. It's hot like Florida. Niemi is a bum.
- micah555


With Thornton coming back the other way? I like where your head's at.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:46 PM ET


Its a good article... there is some other potential suitors as well with the likes of NJ (next year) ... you never know with some teams... one team like detroit may even move Howard and then bring in Lu.. (unlikely) but wouldn't be the craziest scenario.

There is also the idea that if no good offer is out there... Gillis can wait... or can look at moving Schneider.. which I realize some people believe is the worst possible scenario.. but it is a possible scenario.

- kneughter


Sorry, they don't have a sarcasm font.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
Globe and Mail write up on all things Canucks. Nothing that new but...

http://www.theglobeandmai...-to-chest/article4357574/
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 20 @ 6:48 PM ET
Lu is moving to San Jose. It's hot like Florida. Niemi is a bum.
- micah555


I wonder if Lu and his wife separating will cause next season to be a hugely successful year or a big flop... It could go either way
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
Sorry, they don't have a sarcasm font.
- fiveandagame


I knew you were kidding... thats why I laughed!
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
Tell him Lu its CBJ or Modo , his only two choices. He only has NTC not NMC. Get Nazzy to p/u 3.5 mil of his salary . We get the cap space they get a good goalie and Swedes love the Canucks .
- VANTEL


I think if Gillis went to Lu and said, "the only deal the makes sense is CBJ, so you have a choice, - you can be the back up in Van and play 20 games or you can go to CBJ and play 70" it would be tough not to wiave his NTC.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
I wonder if Lu and his wife separating will cause next season to be a hugely successful year or a big flop... It could go either way
- kneughter


Really? When did this happen?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
I think if Gillis went to Lu and said, "the only deal the makes sense is CBJ, so you have a choice, - you can be the back up in Van and play 20 games or you can go to CBJ and play 70" it would be tough not to wiave his NTC.
- fiveandagame


I think Lu is aware of the situation. He underestands there are limited choices.
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