Anything involving sh!t is usually bad.
- bloatedmosquito

As much as I prefer the idea of having 6 very capable defenseman and spreading the ice time around.... it just seems that cup winning teams all have that 30+ minute capable Dman.. with a bottom pairing of 10 minute bums.

Perhaps it truely is the recipe for success...

TSN MOCK draft...Canucks select #26 spot....Malcom SUBBAN!! goalie
- Canuckfan2006[] ...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm highly Logical!

The TSN mock draft does not factor in organizational need. You need to stop with the Malcolm Subban stuff. It's ridiculous.

This is going to sound offensive, and I don't mean to offend, but...

if you can't see how adding another goalie with a 1st round pick is the most absolutely retarded thing for the Canucks to do, you either:

A) Don't know much about the Canucks organizational depth.
B) Have too much of a hard on for Malcolm Subban to care what the Canucks need.

If Gillis drafts Subban, he needs to be fired, or fire his scouting/drafting staff. The Canucks do not need another goalie prospect enough to waste a 1st round pick.

Plus, there's always the risk he has a piss poor attitude, like his brother.

I don't mind Schenn. His skill set includes blocking shots, heavy hits, and the ability to log big minutes. That's an element missing right now on our defence core.
- bloatedmosquito

Not too sure about Schenn and heavy minutes at this point. But you are so right, the nucks need a hitter/blocker/steady d-man.
I do think he's got an inflated value simply because of what he's projected to be, and I doubt he meets those projections in his career.

The TSN mock draft does not factor in organizational need. You need to stop with the Malcolm Subban stuff. It's ridiculous.

This is going to sound offensive, and I don't mean to offend, but...

if you can't see how adding another goalie with a 1st round pick is the most absolutely retarded thing for the Canucks to do, you either:

A) Don't know much about the Canucks organizational depth.
B) Have too much of a hard on for Malcolm Subban to care what the Canucks need.

If Gillis drafts Subban, he needs to be fired, or fire his scouting/drafting staff. The Canucks do not need another goalie prospect enough to waste a 1st round pick.

Plus, there's always the risk he has a piss poor attitude, like his brother.
- Fosco

Burke says you NEVER EVER draft by positional need... you always draft the best player available.. ALWAYS... doesn't matter if you have 20 centers and the best player available is a center... you take him. 100 times out of a 100... thats the only way to building a good crop of young forwards.

Thats almost an exact quote from Mr.Burke....

I wouldn't care if "the monster" came this way... throw em in the minors... it would be a non-factor
- kneughter

I think he's a UFA on July 1st?

Anything involving sh!t is usually bad.
- bloatedmosquito

fair enough.

I don't doubt that is CLOSE to what NSH would want, but I'd hope to hell Gillis wouldn't do it. Weber isn't ENOUGH of an upgrade on Edler to warrant all of the additional assets. It would be 1 step forward 2 steps back.
- Fosco

I agree, Weber is an upgrade on Edler IMO but not for that price.

I agree, Weber is an upgrade on Edler IMO but not for that price.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. You know my feelings on Weber to the Canucks, but I'll concede that point. I still have hopes that Edler can reach Weber's level (or at least close), if he can stay healthy and get a partner that compliments his game.

Burke says you NEVER EVER draft by positional need... you always draft the best player available.. ALWAYS... doesn't matter if you have 20 centers and the best player available is a center... you take him. 100 times out of a 100... thats the only way to building a good crop of young forwards.

Thats almost an exact quote from Mr.Burke....
- kneughter

I actually agree with the BPA drafting method, for the most part, but goaltending is an entirely different story.

A team doesn't need as large a crop of goalie prospects as other positions, and don't need to stock them as frequently. The Canucks are already stocked—maybe a few wildcard picks on a GT in the later rounds, in the next few years, but they don't need to waste a 1st rounder when they desperately need D and F, and will still need them in a few years when the core players start to retire, and the current prospects make the jump.

Agreed. You know my feelings on Weber to the Canucks, but I'll concede that point. I still have hopes that Edler can reach Weber's level (or at least close), if he can stay healthy and get a partner that compliments his game.
- Fosco

If he was meaner/tougher, by nature, (Edler) he'd be every bit the player Weber is.

I actually agree with the BPA drafting theory, for the most part, but goaltending is an entirely different story.

A team doesn't need as large a crop of goalie prospects as other positions, and don't need to stock them as frequently. The Canucks are already stocked—maybe a few wildcard picks on a GT in the later rounds, in the next few years, but they don't need to waste a 1st rounder when they desperately need D and F, and will still need them in a few years when the core players start to retire.
- Fosco

I didn't fully agree with Burke... drafting BPA is the way to go.. but you have to be able to make the moves if needed. Prime example is Edmonton.. if they can move either Yakupov or Hall for something like Subban and Murray... you HAVE to make that move. If Edmonton can get 2 top 4 Dman for the 1st overall pick... they would be silly not to make that move.

So whether you make that trade before or after the draft doesn't really matter... but the prospect pool needs to be spread out as much as possible.

I think that is too much for Weber, even as a pipedream. I don't think Nash will get a return of 2 roster players and 2 prospects. (unless one of those players is a bottom 6 type). I bet they get something in the neighbourhood of 1 real good player, a promising prospect with a high draft pick.

Howson didn't trade Nash at the draft, and maybe it was because his list of teams was too small, but I don't think there is a team that is willing to sell the farm for a player right now. Teams are either rebuilding through draft/FA or tweaking their core. Except Calgary, who knows what they're doing.
- Troutback

With 1 year left on his deal I agree.

I don't mind Schenn. His skill set includes blocking shots, heavy hits, and the ability to log big minutes. That's an element missing right now on our defence core.
- bloatedmosquito

RHD

Anything involving sh!t is usually bad.
- bloatedmosquito

I DISAGREE

I don't doubt that is CLOSE to what NSH would want, but I'd hope to hell Gillis wouldn't do it. Weber isn't ENOUGH of an upgrade on Edler to warrant all of the additional assets. It would be 1 step forward 2 steps back.
- Fosco

UFA next year

Trade Breaker‏@NHLTradesFirst

Parise will NOT be resigned by the Devils. They don't have the cash. Avs, Wild, Rangers all teams that want him. He doesnt want NYR though

Trade Breaker‏@NHLTradesFirst

Leafs also only ones with SERIOUS interest in Luongo because of term and years. Gillis won't trade him for nothing though. 2 smart GMs.

Trade Breaker‏@NHLTradesFirst

Leafs also only ones with SERIOUS interest in Luongo because of term and years. Gillis won't trade him for nothing though. 2 smart GMs.
- VANTEL

Luongod

Trade Breaker‏@NHLTradesFirst

Leafs also only ones with SERIOUS interest in Luongo because of term and years. Gillis won't trade him for nothing though. 2 smart GMs.
- VANTEL

Who is incarceratedBob? And is he credible? Because he said on twitter apparently that it's 98% done and Gardiner is involved

Who is incarceratedBob? And is he credible? Because he said on twitter apparently that it's 98% done and Gardiner is involved
- I-own_da-Northwest

He is a guy who thinks he is good.An Ek wanna be.

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