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Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:44 PM ET
If he was right-handed, a little bigger, and had more offense then I could probably endorse it. But he isn't, so I have my qualms with drafting him at one.
- Jack-artist


6'1" / 200lbs.... his size isn't the issue

Everybody creams their pants over Klefbom despite his iffy offense.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
Seriously? Link it if you have the link. I'd love to read that.
- Maxbone




It was just on TSN.


Trejetta
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
Ummm, wat? Gardiner and the 5th overall for Yakupov might be an underpayment. When did I say otherwise.

Yes, I know in Leafsland, Gardiner has won four Norris trophies, a Hart Trophy, one Vezina, and seven Stanley Cups. In the "real" world, he's a young defenseman who looked good in his first NHL season.

- Maxbone


Let me guess, you also think Subban and the 3rd is fair value?



laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
OMG, if the Habs would deal to Edmonton the 3rd overall for the Oilers 2nd and their 1st in 2013, I would kiss them on the lips. All of them.

I could hear Steve Tambellini now: "1st overall, we take Nail." and "3rd overall, we take Galchenyuk". Screw the defensemen idea. Defense is for teams that lack talent.

- Maxbone


I'd rather Yakupov and Murray/Reinhart. I think Galchenyuk is going to be a disappointment.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
1st and gagner

5th, gardiner and a middling prospect


Take grigorenko with the 5. Sign schultz

Good day for the oil.

Just a quick reminder to leaf fans; shultz is not your asset to trade.
He cant be used in any deal to add value. Even the prospect of signing him cause of gardiner is not yours to give
HabsRUs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "I have to be strong, you know
Joined: 10.23.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:45 PM ET
DEAL!
- laughs2907


I wouldnt mind the trade if Galchenyuk is off the table
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:46 PM ET
Pierre PenisHead just threw down Oilers 1st for Habs 1st + PK Subban.
- robin_steele264


dallas717
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
1st and gagner

5th, gardiner and a prospect


Take grigorenko with the 5. Sign shultz.

Good day for the oil.

Just a quick reminder to leaf fans; shultz is not your asset to trade.
He cant be used in any deal to add value. Even the prospect of signing him cause of gardiner is not yours to give

- hugefemale dog77


Take Grigorenko? Where the F have you been? His value has fallen tremendously. He may not even be taken in the top 10.

I can name 5 guys the Oilers would take over Grigorenko at 5.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
1st and gagner

5th, gardiner and a prospect


Take grigorenko with the 5. Sign shultz.

Good day for the oil.

Just a quick reminder to leaf fans; shultz is not your asset to trade.
He cant be used in any deal to add value. Even the prospect of signing him cause of gardiner is not yours to give

- hugefemale dog77


Yet he is the Oilers to sign at will?

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:48 PM ET
Let me guess, you also think Subban and the 3rd is fair value?
- Trejetta



Id rather that than Gardiner and the 5th.


Trejetta
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:49 PM ET
Because THEY'RE (frank)ING INSANE!!!
- laughs2907


Both fan bases have a majority following of mouth breathers. I cheer for one side and live amongst the other. The homerism for both teams is beyond pathetic.

laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:49 PM ET
Yes I did. So if the Habs hired McGuire as their GM then you guys would have Subban and Murray
- HabsRUs




That deal would have made him incredibly popular in Montreal.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
Yet he is the Oilers to sign at will?
- Leafs43


Yeah you (frank)ing gooks, it's already been established that he will sign with Leafs.
dallas717
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
Yet he is the Oilers to sign at will?
- Leafs43

I don't think that's what he meant. Nobody knows where he is going to sign, but I would say the Oil have a fairly good shot. Schultz's agent has said that he wants to be a guaranteed an NHL spot for next year and that will affect where he chooses to sign. As far as I can see, the Oiler's are one of the very, very few teams in the league that could actually do that.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:51 PM ET
Yeah you (frank)ing gooks, it's already been established that he will sign with Leafs.
- Starbuck


Not at all. I just think a lot of EDM fans here are guilty of the things that they constantly attack leaf fans for.
HabsRUs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "I have to be strong, you know
Joined: 10.23.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:51 PM ET


That deal would have made him incredibly popular in Montreal.

- laughs2907


But he did also say that the Oilers would have to add something else
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:53 PM ET
He is probably one of Calgary's best defensive forwards, and he'll get better offensively. I'd hold onto him.
- Jack-artist


I don't actually want to trade him.

I do hope he's practicing his faceoffs this summer though.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:54 PM ET
Take Grigorenko? Where the F have you been? His value has fallen tremendously. He may not even be taken in the top 10.

I can name 5 guys the Oilers would take over Grigorenko at 5.

- dallas717


U could name 20 guys that 'might' go before him. Doesnt make it any less of a guess.
This is all just conjecture. U have no more proof that he wont go high than any other rumour.
Do u just swallow every rumour u hear? Sounds like you're perfect for hockeybuzz.

The attitude nonsense is bs, imo. Everything ive seen is to the contrary.
Not only that, but ive heard stu like grigs. Again, just rumours.

Like i said, if we got 2 dmen and dealt gags.. Id be happy for grigs to take that spot
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 6:56 PM ET
But he did also say that the Oilers would have to add something else
- HabsRUs


I wonder what that something would be... Hmmm
Chop017
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
How is Gardiner for #1 possible and Gagner for #8 completely ridiculous in the eyes of leaf fans?
- TheDyingOilerFan

Reverse the question, why is Gagner for an 8th not ridiculous but Gardiner for a 1st is. Every scout has said this is one of the worst drafts, and that the players from 1-5 are not that far apart.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
Yet he is the Oilers to sign at will?
- Leafs43


No. When did i say that? Its all just guesswork.
Thats what i hope happens. And theyll try to sign him. We know this.
My point was; he cant be used as a tradeable asset to increase value
dallas717
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
U could name 20 guys that 'might' go before him.
This is all just conjecture though. U have no more proof that he wont go high than any other rumour.
Do u just swallow every rumour u hear? Sounds like you're perfect for hockeybuzz.

The attitude nonsense is bs, imo. Everything ive seen is to the contrary.
Not only that, but ive heard stu like grigs.

Like i said, if we got 2 dmen and dealt gags.. Take grigs to take that spot

- hugefemale dog77


Bob McKenzie seems to think he will fall out of the top 10. I'd say his opinion matters more than yours, mine, and nearly everybody else. So, yes, it is reasonable to think that he will not be taken in the top 10.
dallas717
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
Reverse the question, why is Gagner for an 8th not ridiculous but Gardiner for a 1st is. Every scout has said this is one of the worst drafts, and that the players from 1-5 are not that far apart.
- Chop017


It's more like players 2-10 are not far apart. Realistically, nobody has a clue as to how that order is going to go.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
Let me guess, you also think Subban and the 3rd is fair value?
- Trejetta


If the Habs offered Subban and the 3rd overall for just the 1st overall pick, I'd take it every single day of the week. Incredible deal for the Oilers.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
No. When did i say that? Its all just guesswork.
Thats what i hope happens. And theyll try to sign him. We know this.
My point was; he cant be used as a tradeable asset to increase value

- hugefemale dog77


I agree.
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