Josh Harding just re-signed to stay in Minnesota
3 years @ 1.9mill cap hit

Not for what you said . For the war it will start after.
- VANTEL

NOBODY IS TRYING TO START A WAR!

I just find it hilarious that an unproven, undrafted prospect in Murray is apparently more valuable than 21 year old who blew EVERYONE'S expectations out of the water by making an NHL roster and having an incredible rookie season by playing big minutes in all situations. The poise, patience and potential that Gardiner displayed this season got the league's attention and he got better as the season went on!

The ONLY reason people are pissing on Gardiner IS BECAUSE HE'S A LEAF!

EVERY GM AND FAN AROUND THE LEAGUE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GUY LIKE GARDINER, especially at what it cost to get him!!!

I'm interested in seeing what we do this off season... any rumors out there?
- Panthers88

We can deal you guys a goalie

LOL... For what?

Right now Gardiner >>> Murray, but apparently drafting Murray at #1 is okay.
- As_I_See_It

Right now: Most NHL Players > Any un-drafted player

What's your point.

NOBODY IS TRYING TO START A WAR!

I just find it hilarious that an unproven, undrafted prospect in Murray is apparently more valuable than 21 year old who blew EVERYONE'S expectations out of the water by making an NHL roster and having an incredible rookie season by playing big minutes in all situations. The poise, patience and potential that Gardiner displayed this season got the league's attention and he got better as the season went on!

The ONLY reason people are pissing on Gardiner IS BECAUSE HE'S A LEAF!

EVERY GM AND FAN AROUND THE LEAGUE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GUY LIKE GARDINER, especially at what it cost to get him!!!
- As_I_See_It

You missed the joke Juice was making .

You missed the joke Juice was making .
- VANTEL

That's why I posted a after Juice's post, right?

Michael Russo‏@Russostrib

Source: Josh Harding signs a three-year, $5.7 million deal with

i agreee 500% that's why i keep saying i don'T care if the leafs ovepay to get the 2nd overall
- Kuleminator

Respect

It's a given Yakupov got a great skill set and all scouts agree he's in a group by himself. I for one beleive, with his size, you throw him in the big boys league, he will spend more time on IR than playing. He's no Ovechkin who is a offensive threat and has the body to protect himself and even throw his body around. You can teach skill but you can't teach size. Someone like Lucic or Kronwall would tear Nail's head off when given the opportunity. Having said that, I would not even trade Gards for Nail straight up. NHL nowadays is about size and skill.

Nail will be more hurt more often than Hall, just watch it. Gally is the winning horse this year, and the smart team will do anything to pry him.

My 2 cents
- hooligoon

if rnh can show that he can play (and dominate at times) with his frame (roughly the equivalent of an 8 year old girl), i don't see size as a limitation to success.

Right now: Most NHL Players > Any un-drafted player

What's your point.
- The-O-G

Preceisely!

My point is that Gardiner >>> Murray, but the Oilers fans are okay with drafting Murray at #1. See where their logic comes off the tracks and fails?

Problem is :

Phaneuf-Gunnar
Gardiner-Schutlz(maybe)
Schenn-JML
Holzer-Franson
Komisarek-Blacker
Percy

that's almost 2 teams full of d-man
- Kuleminator

Phaneuf or Franson on their way out via trade? Dump Komisarek in a trade for Luongo? We'll find out soon?

NOBODY IS TRYING TO START A WAR!

I just find it hilarious that an unproven, undrafted prospect in Murray is apparently more valuable than 21 year old who blew EVERYONE'S expectations out of the water by making an NHL roster and having an incredible rookie season by playing big minutes in all situations. The poise, patience and potential that Gardiner displayed this season got the league's attention and he got better as the season went on!

The ONLY reason people are pissing on Gardiner IS BECAUSE HE'S A LEAF!

EVERY GM AND FAN AROUND THE LEAGUE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GUY LIKE GARDINER, especially at what it cost to get him!!!
- As_I_See_It

you do understand that saying that gardiner isn't worth the 1st over all pick isn't "pissing" on him, right?

It's a given Yakupov got a great skill set and all scouts agree he's in a group by himself. I for one beleive, with his size, you throw him in the big boys league, he will spend more time on IR than playing. He's no Ovechkin who is a offensive threat and has the body to protect himself and even throw his body around. You can teach skill but you can't teach size. Someone like Lucic or Kronwall would tear Nail's head off when given the opportunity. Having said that, I would not even trade Gards for Nail straight up. NHL nowadays is about size and skill.

Nail will be more hurt more often than Hall, just watch it. Gally is the winning horse this year, and the smart team will do anything to pry him.

My 2 cents
- hooligoon

Jeff Skinner, Marty St. louis, Brad Marchand, Danny Briere, Saku Koivu, Ryan Callahan, Brian Gionta, Ray Whitney, Calude Giroux and Jordan Eberle. All guys who are similar in size.

Phaneuf or Franson on their way out via trade? Dump Komisarek in a trade for Luongo? We'll find out soon?
- sjsharks92

Dream on

Preceisely!

My point is that Gardiner >>> Murray, but the Oilers fans are okay with drafting Murray at #1. See where their logic comes off the tracks and fails?
- As_I_See_It

wow. i think you may want to step back and look at the logic.

Dream on
- VANTEL

i agreee 500% that's why i keep saying i don'T care if the leafs ovepay to get the 2nd overall
- Kuleminator

5th and Gardiner, there is your overpayement for Gally

Dream on
- VANTEL

Wouldn't exactly call it "dream on" seeing as to how I'm not a Leafs fan, but sure.

Respect
- hooligoon

Yeah we even have old Sergei Berezin #94 Jersey Number Ready for Him


Make it Happen Burkie

It's a given Yakupov got a great skill set and all scouts agree he's in a group by himself. I for one beleive, with his size, you throw him in the big boys league, he will spend more time on IR than playing. He's no Ovechkin who is a offensive threat and has the body to protect himself and even throw his body around. You can teach skill but you can't teach size. Someone like Lucic or Kronwall would tear Nail's head off when given the opportunity. Having said that, I would not even trade Gards for Nail straight up. NHL nowadays is about size and skill.

Nail will be more hurt more often than Hall, just watch it. Gally is the winning horse this year, and the smart team will do anything to pry him.

My 2 cents
- hooligoon

Ur 2 cents is all about Truculence right??? did you even see photos of all the picks together... the 2 centers barely look an inch taller than Yaks... Galy looks to be same height in photos anyway...

wow. i think you may want to step back and look at the logic.
- RealityChecker

Hahaha....is he actually serious?

Wouldn't exactly call it "dream on" seeing as to how I'm not a Leafs fan, but sure.
- sjsharks92

Never will happen. That deal has been out there for over a month. It would have happend by now if it appealed to Gillis.

you do understand that saying that gardiner isn't worth the 1st over all pick isn't "pissing" on him, right?
- RealityChecker

I get that.

AGAIN. What I'm trying to say is that if Gardiner >>> Murray, and the Oilers fans are okay with drafting Murray at #1, do you see where things don't add up?

Jeff Skinner, Marty St. louis, Brad Marchand, Danny Briere, Saku Koivu, Ryan Callahan, Brian Gionta, Ray Whitney, Calude Giroux and Jordan Eberle. All guys who are similar in size.
- tomburton99

U forgot BB's moto TRUCULENCE!!!!! Hence- Bozak, Kessel, Lupul <-- those guys play a big game...

5th and Gardiner, there is your overpayement for Gally
- Alexzanki

No way most i give up is 5th-Franson and our second round pick