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FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Aaron Portzline‏@Aportzline

Return the #CBJ is looking for in Nash varies from club to club, depending on club's assets. Generally speaking, they want 3 to 5 assets.


Aaron Portzline‏@Aportzline

My opinion: Nash could easily be a 40 goal, 90 point guy in right situation - a coach w strong demands, a capable center, full role on PP/PK

- stveshdy


I just cant imagine that Homer thinks this makes any sense. Bill may have to hand deliver to him his Blog from a few days ago to make sure.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
in jak's defense, i'd be lucky if i punched just one person at a chesney show.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
in jak's defense, i'd be lucky if i punched just one person at a chesney show.
- OrangeBlack27



Lets just say I am not exactly what you would call a country fan... but they sure as poop know how to tailgate.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:12 AM ET
I just cant imagine that Homer thinks this makes any sense. Bill may have to hand deliver to him his Blog from a few days ago to make sure.
- FlyersFirst


There is 0% chance (IMO) we make a deal for Nash.

Suter is different, but I say <5%.

For Parise, I saw <10%

For Bobby Ryan - that would be awesome. <10%

For Weber - <10%


isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:15 AM ET
Percy Harvin has requested a trade
- Jsaquella

that guy's a headache.....


...waiting to happen
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
There is 0% chance (IMO) we make a deal for Nash.

Suter is different, but I say <5%.

For Parise, I saw <10%

For Bobby Ryan - that would be awesome. <10%

For Weber - <10%

- Daman


my guess is - I think your %ages are about right. Much more likely we just resign Jakub, Jagr and Carle and basically be done
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
There is 0% chance (IMO) we make a deal for Nash.

Suter is different, but I say <5%.

For Parise, I saw <10%

For Bobby Ryan - that would be awesome. <10%

For Weber - <10%

- Daman



I learned this lesson last year at this time when I said there was zero chance that Carter and Richards would be traded.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
I learned this lesson last year at this time when I said there was zero chance that Carter and Richards would be traded.
- MJL


ok. put .1% on Nash so that your bases are covered.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:27 AM ET
I learned this lesson last year at this time when I said there was zero chance that Carter and Richards would be traded.
- MJL


That was a shock to just about 99% of us last year that both would be traded, and within practically minutes of each other.

But I realized a long time ago that anyone could be traded after the great one was moved to the left coast.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:31 AM ET
There is 0% chance (IMO) we make a deal for Nash.

Suter is different, but I say <5%.

For Parise, I saw <10%

For Bobby Ryan - that would be awesome. <10%

For Weber - <10%

- Daman

I find it interesting that Al Morganti is sure Parise ends up here. He's the one guy everyone is talking about that would really appeal to me.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:32 AM ET
Question: as i understand it, JVRs NMC does not kick in until 7/1 when his extension begins. Why would a player agree to an extension with a delayed NMC? Shouldnt they insist on the NMC being effective the day the extension is signed (can they do that under the current CBA?)? I would think JVR would have been concerned about this in light of what happened with Carter. Otherwise, it seems to set up a window that allows for a JVR to be held out as trade bait on a longer term cap friendly deal.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:35 AM ET
Question: as i understand it, JVRs NMC does not kick in until 7/1 when his extension begins. Why would a player agree to an extension with a delayed NMC? Shouldnt they insist on the NMC being effective the day the extension is signed (can they do that under the current CBA?)? I would think JVR would have been concerned about this in light of what happened with Carter. Otherwise, it seems to set up a window that allows for a JVR to be held out as trade bait on a longer term cap friendly deal.
- FlyersFirst


he's not eligible for that baby until july 1, 2016, i believe. those clauses don't kick in until a player is eligible for unrestricted free agency. cba rule.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
Question: as i understand it, JVRs NMC does not kick in until 7/1 when his extension begins. Why would a player agree to an extension with a delayed NMC? Shouldnt they insist on the NMC being effective the day the extension is signed (can they do that under the current CBA?)? I would think JVR would have been concerned about this in light of what happened with Carter. Otherwise, it seems to set up a window that allows for a JVR to be held out as trade bait on a longer term cap friendly deal.
- FlyersFirst


You can't modify your existing contract.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
I learned this lesson last year at this time when I said there was zero chance that Carter and Richards would be traded.
- MJL


Wasn't me that said that. I'm pretty sure I was banned then too.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
I find it interesting that Al Morganti is sure Parise ends up here. He's the one guy everyone is talking about that would really appeal to me.
- bodiva88


#1 - is it legal for the Parise and the Flyers to even talk?

#2 - that would be great.

#3 - I'll take bets

#4 - Don't know why I am numbering this crap
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:45 AM ET
#1 - is it legal for the Parise and the Flyers to even talk?

#2 - that would be great.

#3 - I'll take bets

#4 - Don't know why I am numbering this crap

- Daman


#1 - No
#2 - Yep
#3 - Me too
#4 - I Don't know either. It's really annoying
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:45 AM ET
Wasn't me that said that. I'm pretty sure I was banned then too.
- Daman



Didn't say it was you that said that. I said it was me that said that.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:47 AM ET
Didn't say it was you that said that. I said it was me that said that.
- MJL


I wasn't shocked with Carter. Dump his salary to sign a goalie.

Shocked as hell with Richards. Didn't really like that trade. Moving forward, happy with Schenn and Simmonds though. Life moves on.


Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
Didn't say it was you that said that. I said it was me that said that.
- MJL

amazing how wrong you were about all that
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:50 AM ET
amazing how wrong you were about all that
- Crimsoninja



I find it amazing that I was wrong also.

That one caught a lot of people off guard. Never would of thought that it would happen.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jun 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
I find it amazing that I was wrong also.

That one caught a lot of people off guard. Never would of thought that it would happen.

- MJL


I don't think anyone saw that coming...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
I learned this lesson last year at this time when I said there was zero chance that Carter and Richards would be traded.
- MJL



Never ever know what Homer has up his sleeve
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:32 PM ET
amazing how wrong you were about all that
- Crimsoninja


bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:07 PM ET


Never ever know what Homer has up his sleeve

- jak521

Just don't make me cry, Mr. Holmgren, sir. Please.
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