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Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
And a player with that Cap hit should stand out.

If he made 4.5M, maybe I'd have some interest.

- MJL

To be fair, many in Detroit would take you that Nick Lidstrom wasn't very flashy and never stood out, especially 5 on 5.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
I understand liking him too.

But that cap hit is just absolutely monstrous. That's a number that could SERIOUSLY (frank) a team up badly....

- Giroux_Is_God



*cough* Columbus
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
the fact that it's only two seasons definitely helps, no doubt

i just worry about who the flyers would have to lose in order to fit that cap hit on the roster

it may (at the very least) make more sense than acquiring nash

particularly if he comes cheap (in terms of assets)

- FlyerMike18

Totally agree.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:53 PM ET


*cough* Columbus

- JoeRussomanno


The Jackets were more screwed by their draft record than Nash's cap hit
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
Calgary isn't going to give him away. It would take a significant investment to trade for him.
- MJL


I agree that the just can't give J-Bo away. He is the top 10 worst player per $.

They would most likely have to throw in a pick.


J-Bo plus 2nd rounder for Flyers mid round pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
To be fair, many in Detroit would take you that Nick Lidstrom wasn't very flashy and never stood out, especially 5 on 5.
- Schenn2shine


Lidstrom never stood out? I would disagree, but that's just my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:54 PM ET
I agree that the just can't give J-Bo away. He is the top 10 worst player per $.

They would most likely have to throw in a pick.


J-Bo plus 2nd rounder for Flyers mid round pick

- Daman


Good luck with that.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:54 PM ET
I agree that the just can't give J-Bo away. He is the top 10 worst player per $.

They would most likely have to throw in a pick.


J-Bo plus 2nd rounder for Flyers mid round pick

- Daman




Da Man strikes...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:54 PM ET
Since it's not actually Burke does it matter?
- ob18

I guess not
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:55 PM ET
3 of the best defenseman who ever played for the Flyers, who were excellent defensively. Weren't defenseman that were considered physical defenseman. Howe, Desjardins, and Timonen
- MJL




Desjardins and Kimmo aren't exactly guys I would classify as defensive d-men.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:55 PM ET
Dont get involved, its predictable what goes on here.

Just have fun with it.

Only a message board.

- flyer_nutter

I get carried away. I need to be put in check and you just did it the right way.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:55 PM ET
I would be on the phone with Winnipeg. Enstrom and Kane make the most sense to me.
- stveshdy

It's strange to me that not many people are getting behind this. It's not the flashiest of moves, but it makes the most sense and wouldn't break the bank like almost every other move we've been talking about.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:55 PM ET
Not that it hasnt been all day, but its bat-poop crazy times now....



.....and I like it....
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:56 PM ET
Lidstrom never stood out? I would disagree, but that's just my opinion.
- MJL

That's fine.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:57 PM ET
It's strange to me that not many people are getting behind this. It's not the flashiest of moves, but it makes the most sense and wouldn't break the bank like almost every other move we've been talking about.
- hereticpride


I agree.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:58 PM ET
Shea Weber's hit may well be higher than Nash's
- Jsaquella

I'm not a Weber advocate either.

I want to see a Mez-ish caliber defenseman added to the mix, and POSSIBLY a 4th line center to help out on the PK and in the faceoff dot.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:58 PM ET
Not that it hasnt been all day, but its bat-poop crazy times now....



.....and I like it....

- aosplayo


nothing will ever surpass The Rapture, imo


wildest day as a Flyers fan in my lifetime when those trades went down last year
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:59 PM ET
nothing will ever surpass The Rapture, imo


wildest day as a Flyers fan in my lifetime when those trades went down last year

- Crimsoninja

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:59 PM ET
I'm not a Weber advocate either.

I want to see a Mez-ish caliber defenseman added to the mix, and POSSIBLY a 4th line center to help out on the PK and in the faceoff dot.

- Giroux_Is_God


Fair enough. I'm fine with tweaks. In fact I prefer making tweaks and letting the kids mature
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:00 PM ET


Desjardins and Kimmo aren't exactly guys I would classify as defensive d-men.

- flyer_nutter


Desjardins and Timonen weren't very good defensively? They weren't regularly matched up against top lines, and play top minutes on the PK? The fact that they also had two way ability and could play offensively in all situations, doesn't take away from how good they were defensively. Which proves my point that you don't have to be a physical player to be very good defensively.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
nothing will ever surpass The Rapture, imo


wildest day as a Flyers fan in my lifetime when those trades went down last year

- Crimsoninja

I lashed out at everyone.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
I lashed out at everyone.
- Schenn2shine

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
Desjardins and Timonen weren't very good defensively? They weren't regularly matched up against top lines, and play top minutes on the PK? The fact that they also had two way ability and could play offensively in all situations, doesn't take away from how good they were defensively. Which proves my point that you don't have to be a physical player to be very good defensively.
- MJL

that one threw me for a loop too.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
Fair enough. I'm fine with tweaks. In fact I prefer making tweaks and letting the kids mature
- Jsaquella


Whatever decision Homer makes this offseason I will support.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 8:01 PM ET
It's strange to me that not many people are getting behind this. It's not the flashiest of moves, but it makes the most sense and wouldn't break the bank like almost every other move we've been talking about.
- hereticpride


I live in the city.

Could see it happening as the team could use a shake-up, there was lots of noise last season as they didnt try to push for the playoffs.They need offensive help badly, so the Flyers would have to replace Kane and the Jets would want more offense coming back. Enstrom as well, wont be cheap to get.

Evander Kane is a great player but I question him. He has wanted out ever since coming to the city which I could understand however he looks lazy often and is questionable defensively at times. I'd gamble on a guy like that though.

I would personally much rather give up a guy like Read than Voracek though.
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