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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:45 PM ET
I could very well be wrong but I don't see how 2 seasons is a huge leap of faith. If we can't pick up Weber or a player of his status, someone has to fill the hole that Pronger and Timonen leave behind. The season between losing Eric Desjardins and picking up Kimmo Timonen was a last place season. I'd rather have J-Bo then nothing at all.
- Schenn2shine


Calgary isn't going to give him away. It would take a significant investment to trade for him.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET


Brian Burke ‏@BrianBurkeGM

To all the douchebag #Leafs bloggers out there: Yes, I am getting Nash, Suter, Luongo, Ryan, & Parise. Im also trading up to get the #1 pick



- MBFlyerfan


Are you kidding me? Thats so unprofessional.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
Actually, defensively Bouwmeester is a solid defenseman. He just doesn't bring enough to the table at the Cap hit. He lacks the offensive game that he should have, and he doesn't play that physical.
- MJL

he rarely stands out...looks like he's floating out there half the time.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
I still don't know what you think Bouwmeester is. Bouwmeester is a good player. He's just not as good as his Cap hit suggests he should be.
- MJL

Then I suppose I'm officially tossing my Penny into that Well you spoke of.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
You don't have to be physical to play well defensively.
- MJL


I think its an element that a defensive d-man should have.

Coburn, when he plays physical and uses his body is a much better player.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
Todd Cordell ‏@ToddCordell

Pierre LeBrun on TSN: The #Flyers are "very aggressive" in their attempt to pry Rick Nash from Columbus.

- ob18

No....nuh-no. No...please.....no....

NO.

JESUS PLEASE NO NOT NASH PLEASE NO!!!!



(cue "The Office" clip...)
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
Calgary isn't going to give him away. It would take a significant investment to trade for him.
- MJL

Then I guess he's staying in Calgary.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
he rarely stands out...looks like he's floating out there half the time.
- isaiah520


And a player with that Cap hit should stand out.

If he made 4.5M, maybe I'd have some interest.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
Are you kidding me? Thats so unprofessional.
- stveshdy

Gotta love Toronto
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
I think its an element that a defensive d-man should have.

Coburn, when he plays physical and uses his body is a much better player.

- flyer_nutter


It certainly is a nice element to have, and what you would prefer. But it isn't a necessity.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Then I guess he's staying in Calgary.
- Schenn2shine


Dont get involved, its predictable what goes on here.

Just have fun with it.

Only a message board.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Are you kidding me? Thats so unprofessional.
- stveshdy


It's not him, his twitter is @LeafsBB20 and yes it is verified. He hasn't tweeted since May 28.

https://twitter.com/#!/LeafsBB20
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Then I suppose I'm officially tossing my Penny into that Well you spoke of.
- Schenn2shine


Hopefully your wish comes true.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
It certainly is a nice element to have, and what you would prefer. But it isn't a necessity.
- MJL




And there is the predictable.

I have seen the light. Thank you for educating me.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
I could very well be wrong but I don't see how 2 seasons is a huge leap of faith. If we can't pick up Weber or a player of his status, someone has to fill the hole that Pronger and Timonen leave behind. The season between losing Eric Desjardins and picking up Kimmo Timonen was a last place season. I'd rather have J-Bo then nothing at all.
- Schenn2shine


the fact that it's only two seasons definitely helps, no doubt

i just worry about who the flyers would have to lose in order to fit that cap hit on the roster

it may (at the very least) make more sense than acquiring nash

particularly if he comes cheap (in terms of assets)
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
It's not him, his twitter is @LeafsBB20 and yes it is verified. He hasn't tweeted since May 28.

https://twitter.com/#!/LeafsBB20

- ob18


You can bet the hair on your ass that the Toronto media will still ask him about it now.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
*assumes this is a prayer*

Amen.

- Flyskippy

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
No....nuh-no. No...please.....no....

NO.

JESUS PLEASE NO NOT NASH PLEASE NO!!!!



(cue "The Office" clip...)

- Giroux_Is_God

hope it's a head fake, cause that cap hit is a headache.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
I understand liking him. He's a very good player.
- Jsaquella

I understand liking him too.

But that cap hit is just absolutely monstrous. That's a number that could SERIOUSLY (frank) a team up badly....
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
You can bet the hair on your ass that the Toronto media will still ask him about it now.
- flyer_nutter


Not likely, they'll still ask when he'll draft Ontario born players.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET


Brian Burke ‏@BrianBurkeGM

To all the douchebag #Leafs bloggers out there: Yes, I am getting Nash, Suter, Luongo, Ryan, & Parise. Im also trading up to get the #1 pick



- MBFlyerfan

When he says bloggers is that encompassing the fans that comment on the various internet published articles? Just curious....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
I understand liking him too.

But that cap hit is just absolutely monstrous. That's a number that could SERIOUSLY (frank) a team up badly....

- Giroux_Is_God


Shea Weber's hit may well be higher than Nash's
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:51 PM ET


And there is the predictable.

I have seen the light. Thank you for educating me.

- flyer_nutter


3 of the best defenseman who ever played for the Flyers, who were excellent defensively. Weren't defenseman that were considered physical defenseman. Howe, Desjardins, and Timonen
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
I understand liking him too.

But that cap hit is just absolutely monstrous. That's a number that could SERIOUSLY (frank) a team up badly....

- Giroux_Is_God


I would be on the phone with Winnipeg. Enstrom and Kane make the most sense to me.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
When he says bloggers is that encompassing the fans that comment on the various internet published articles? Just curious....
- JoeRussomanno


Since it's not actually Burke does it matter?
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