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ALEDDO
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:26 PM ET
http://whl.ca/roster/show/id/576

More eberle at center
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:27 PM ET
Gagner for the 8th is an interesting one, and one I think they wait until Carolina's pick is up at the podium. Need to see who is left.
- Lahey


Seems unlikely that Gagner would go for that much...they could just add something to it and get Staal.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:28 PM ET
Seems unlikely that Gagner would go for that much...they could just add something to it and get Staal.
- clarkysduster

Maybe they want both?
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:29 PM ET
You'd hope they make a play for someone else. Either via trade or Free agency.
- Lahey

Thats what would have to happen if the trade went down, but we would probably be a lottery team next year as well, I dont think that there are any second line centers in the free agent market. Sounds like jordan staal is off to carolina
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:30 PM ET
It was Sutter, Faulk, 8th for Staal and Martin.
- Lahey

That's a massive over payment by Carolina.

Also considering the brutal year Martin had.

Gagner for the 8th is clearly a better deal for the canes IMO. Gagner and Staal have similar offensive production anyway...
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:32 PM ET
Thats what would have to happen if the trade went down, but we would probably be a lottery team next year as well, I dont think that there are any second line centers in the free agent market. Sounds like jordan staal is off to carolina
- BoringBob69

Depends what you consider a 2nd liner. The other thing is if you have Hemsky/Yak and Hall on your wing do you need that good of a 2nd liner?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:33 PM ET
That's a massive over payment by Carolina.

Also considering the brutal year Martin had.

Gagner for the 8th is clearly a better deal for the canes IMO. Gagner and Staal have similar offensive production anyway...

- Pilgor09

I wouldn't give anything for him. Just wait for him to become a UFA. Unless ownership is demanding playoffs this year.
psoneill
Joined: 05.29.2009

Jun 18 @ 5:33 PM ET
That's a massive over payment by Carolina.

Also considering the brutal year Martin had.

Gagner for the 8th is clearly a better deal for the canes IMO. Gagner and Staal have similar offensive production anyway...

- Pilgor09


That trade will never happen, comes from a bunk source.

However, J. Staal is worth infinitely more to the Hurricanes from a marketing standpoint alone.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
I want Lucic. What would it take? I would overpay a bit, he is exactly what our top six needs.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
I want Lucic. What would it take? I would overpay a bit, he is exactly what our top six needs.
- doon

Probably 1st overall or Eberle.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:36 PM ET
Probably 1st overall or Eberle.
- Lahey

Never mind then, I said a bit.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:36 PM ET
That trade will never happen, comes from a bunk source.

However, J. Staal is worth infinitely more to the Hurricanes from a marketing standpoint alone.

- psoneill

Very true on both.

But you don't gut out your core for marketing reasons.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:36 PM ET
Maybe they want both?
- Lahey

Well, they'd have E. Staal at 1C, J. Staal at 2C. I'd assume they'd want a 3C with a little more jam, but I dunno.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
Never mind then, I said a bit.
- doon

I just don't see it being cheap. You probably get Lucic+ in return, but it's not going to be MPS+ for Lucic.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
I want Lucic. What would it take? I would overpay a bit, he is exactly what our top six needs.
- doon


There is nothing on the oilers that the bruins need outside of hall/ebs/nug/1st ov.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
Well, they'd have E. Staal at 1C, J. Staal at 2C. I'd assume they'd want a 3C with a little more jam, but I dunno.
- clarkysduster

Gagner can play wing too, so who knows.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:38 PM ET
so the cloutiers blog goes back and forth all day with gagners trade value and he happens to hear a rumor about a trade for the eight overall pick. paaalleeeaaassseeeee. just looking to add fuel to the fire..... wait... I just fell for it... NNNOOOO!!!!!

p.s. not even a remote chance oil fans...
psoneill
Joined: 05.29.2009

Jun 18 @ 5:38 PM ET
Oilers and Canes are discussing a trade, but it is for the 1st Overall.

Ryan Murphy OR Justin Faulk + 8th Overall
for
1st Overall

Take your pick, they are both gonna be good.
njhockey27
Vancouver Canucks
Location: neptune
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
Dale the Wombat ‏@wombathockey
I have heard absolutely nothing regarding a possible Jbo for Horcoff deal @NHLFlames @NHL_Oilers

fuk-ju Richard says the wombat
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
Oilers and Canes are discussing a trade, but it is for the 1st Overall.

Ryan Murphy OR Justin Faulk + 8th Overall
for
1st Overall

Take your pick, they are both gonna be good.

- psoneill


Those deals suck. Try again.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:39 PM ET
I just don't see it being cheap. You probably get Lucic+ in return, but it's not going to be MPS+ for Lucic.
- Lahey

I was thinking Hemmer+ prospect for him? Throw in a pick? I don't know, what does Boston need?
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:40 PM ET
Gagner can play wing too, so who knows.
- Lahey


It's possible. I just can't see them paying that much for him. He's got some upside, but he's more likely in the range of a project for project swap or maybe a mid 1st.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:40 PM ET
Dale the Wombat ‏@wombathockey
I have heard absolutely nothing regarding a possible Jbo for Horcoff deal @NHLFlames @NHL_Oilers

fuk-ju Richard says the wombat

- njhockey27


Am I suppose to care?
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:41 PM ET
I was thinking Hemmer+ prospect for him? Throw in a pick? I don't know, what does Boston need?
- doon


defensively responsible, scoring winger with size.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 18 @ 5:41 PM ET
Cloutier, you're as bad as most Oiler fans when it comes to trades.

There's no way Carolina moves the 8th overall pick straight across for Sam Gagner - no way it's happening!!!

Second, there's no way Jay-Bo ever plays for the Oilers, at least not now and he won't be traded for Horcoff. If the Oilers want him, they'll be giving up youth and talented youth at that.

But since you all think the Oilers can rob other teams, maybe Klefbom, Pitlick & the Oilers 1st/2013 head to the Flames for Jay-BO.

What do you think about that - haha!!
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