tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez get off his NHL.com bio. Read my previous posts man. - Panthers88
hockey db. that's how i got the draft info. He's the best player to come out of that draft. So how is he not worth the number 1 pick.
edit: I've been reading. you talked about him not being the best player picked in 2002. you talked about boca and the fans dow their. did i miss anything. |
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez get off his NHL.com bio. Read my previous posts man. - Panthers88
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clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON Joined: 01.11.2012
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I don't want Nash.
Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?
Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.
Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)
With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666
If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.
Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.
I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.
The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?
That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it. - Moshe52792
Since Winni is downgrading at both positions (Kane >>> Dubi, Bogo > Del Z) You're going to have to add a lot more than one of those prospects and a 1st. |
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LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA Joined: 07.12.2010
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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wtf is going on? |
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LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA Joined: 07.12.2010
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LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA Joined: 07.12.2010
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zach parise9
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 07.10.2009
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Really hope Poni is not resigned. He is so soft. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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wtf is going on? - dmarsden2988
Photoshopping |
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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Photoshopping - B2B76
stop taking the fun out of it |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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stop taking the fun out of it - dmarsden2988
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NJD
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: CA Joined: 01.17.2008
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Nothing new,to see NY going after the big fish again.The history showed before that it does not meter who Rangers get,those players always find ways to suck.
Still can not forget how lousy Drury and Gomez played in NY.
All I can say is "good luck" again and lets get back to the Devils news.
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eends33
New York Rangers |
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Location: MD Joined: 06.23.2011
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Nothing new,to see NY going after the big fish again.The history showed before that it does not meter who Rangers get,those players always find ways to suck.
Still can not forget how lousy Drury and Gomez played in NY.
All I can say is "good luck" again and lets get back to the Devils news. - NJD
i agree drury and gomez were bad signings but sather always pulls of great trades...he did get Mcdonagh from Montreal in the Gomez trade |
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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Balls Deep, AK Joined: 07.08.2010
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Fayne deserves an extension. He is a tank. SO HAPPY that the kings finished the devs off - Kopykopykopy
I hope Lou doesnt overpay again.
Fayne is OK, but nothing more. I know everyone on here is enamored with him, but he's really a bottom pair Dman at best. I hope Lou brings someone else in and Fayne can be the 7th Dman who occasionally fills in or is on the roster in case of injury. |
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_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ Joined: 01.26.2012
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I hope Lou doesnt overpay again.
Fayne is OK, but nothing more. I know everyone on here is enamored with him, but he's really a bottom pair Dman at best. I hope Lou brings someone else in and Fayne can be the 7th Dman who occasionally fills in or is on the roster in case of injury. - FLdevilsFAN
He played against the toughest competition in both the playoffs and the regular season. That obviously says something, when he is playing those minutes other then guys like Salvador and Volchenkov. The kid is very good, and some people fail to recognize that. He will get 2-2.5 million, and he probably could bargain for more.
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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Balls Deep, AK Joined: 07.08.2010
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And just because Sal leave doesnt mean you overpay for Fayne, or anyone else. NJ is finally to the point where some of these bad contracts will begin to come off the books. No need to replace those with more poop deals.
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zach parise9
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 07.10.2009
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I hope Lou doesnt overpay again.
Fayne is OK, but nothing more. I know everyone on here is enamored with him, but he's really a bottom pair Dman at best. I hope Lou brings someone else in and Fayne can be the 7th Dman who occasionally fills in or is on the roster in case of injury. - FLdevilsFAN
Fayne is a good shut-down guy. I have no problem with him playing 20 minutes a game against the other team's best players. He is a lot better than just a 7th D man. I'm thinking he gets something around $2.5 million or maybe even a similar contract to Greene's. |
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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Balls Deep, AK Joined: 07.08.2010
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He played against the toughest competition in both the playoffs and the regular season. That obviously says something, when he is playing those minutes other then guys like Salvador and Volchenkov. The kid is very good, and some people fail to recognize that. He will get 2-2.5 million, and he probably could bargain for more. - _Zippy_
Peter Harrold played against the toughest competition in the playoffs as well and did fairly well. Want to pay him $2.5M.
I said Fayne is OK. He's solid. But I disagree he's a middle pairing guy. He had guys blow past him like a cone as often as Larsson did. Fayne's perception got inflated a little because he played well under Lemaire. Well, my argument is that everyone played well under Lemaire. I think $2M should be the max per he should be offered. If he gets zealous and wants Jackman money, let him walk. I know he's young but NJ has an abundance of defensemen prospects and depth. At some point these guys are going to have to be either traded or let go via UFA status. I think Fayne is solid, with his youth he could get better as he grows, but for now I just don't see it. Like I said, he continually gets blown past and is out of position at perhaps the most inopportune times and can't clear the crease (I think he had 3-4 goals go in off his skate or stick this year), but he's still out of position and puts himself in those spots in the first place.
Face it, i know this site loves to circle-jerk about Fayne, but I'm not buying it. I can live with him getting $2.5M but the closer that figure gets to $3M the more I see the same old Lou overpaying average guys. |
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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Balls Deep, AK Joined: 07.08.2010
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Fayne is a good shut-down guy. I have no problem with him playing 20 minutes a game against the other team's best players. He is a lot better than just a 7th D man. I'm thinking he gets something around $2.5 million or maybe even a similar contract to Greene's. - zach parise9
I like Greene and was glad we re-signed him, but he needs to pick it up. He absolutely disappeared during the SCF. I was disappointed in him especially. I was hoping he'd make a charge and be the offensive weapon I think he can be, but he poop out like the top 9 forwards. |
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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
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Peter Harrold played against the toughest competition in the playoffs as well and did fairly well. Want to pay him $2.5M.
I said Fayne is OK. He's solid. But I disagree he's a middle pairing guy. He had guys blow past him like a cone as often as Larsson did. Fayne's perception got inflated a little because he played well under Lemaire. Well, my argument is that everyone played well under Lemaire. I think $2M should be the max per he should be offered. If he gets zealous and wants Jackman money, let him walk. I know he's young but NJ has an abundance of defensemen prospects and depth. At some point these guys are going to have to be either traded or let go via UFA status. I think Fayne is solid, with his youth he could get better as he grows, but for now I just don't see it. Like I said, he continually gets blown past and is out of position at perhaps the most inopportune times and can't clear the crease (I think he had 3-4 goals go in off his skate or stick this year), but he's still out of position and puts himself in those spots in the first place.
Face it, i know this site loves to circle-jerk about Fayne, but I'm not buying it. I can live with him getting $2.5M but the closer that figure gets to $3M the more I see the same old Lou overpaying average guys. - FLdevilsFAN
As shiv would say, oh my. |
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_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ Joined: 01.26.2012
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Peter Harrold played against the toughest competition in the playoffs as well and did fairly well. Want to pay him $2.5M.
I said Fayne is OK. He's solid. But I disagree he's a middle pairing guy. He had guys blow past him like a cone as often as Larsson did. Fayne's perception got inflated a little because he played well under Lemaire. Well, my argument is that everyone played well under Lemaire. I think $2M should be the max per he should be offered. If he gets zealous and wants Jackman money, let him walk. I know he's young but NJ has an abundance of defensemen prospects and depth. At some point these guys are going to have to be either traded or let go via UFA status. I think Fayne is solid, with his youth he could get better as he grows, but for now I just don't see it. Like I said, he continually gets blown past and is out of position at perhaps the most inopportune times and can't clear the crease (I think he had 3-4 goals go in off his skate or stick this year), but he's still out of position and puts himself in those spots in the first place.
Face it, i know this site loves to circle-jerk about Fayne, but I'm not buying it. I can live with him getting $2.5M but the closer that figure gets to $3M the more I see the same old Lou overpaying average guys. - FLdevilsFAN
Volchenkov played against the worst competition in the playoffs, so I'm assuming, but it's probably true, Harrold did also. There's a reason why Fayne was used by both Lemaire and DeBoer against top competition. He doesn't go head-to-head with Ovechkin every game for the hell of it. The coaches know a lot more then we do, and for them to put him out against tough competition, speaks volumes for the type of player he is. He is a great defensemen, yeah, he might have his faults here and there, but quite often, you don't realize him, and for the type of player he is, that is a good thing. Simply put, he replaces Salvador next season. |
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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Balls Deep, AK Joined: 07.08.2010
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Volchenkov played against the worst competition in the playoffs, so I'm assuming, but it's probably true, Harrold did also. There's a reason why Fayne was used by both Lemaire and DeBoer against top competition. He doesn't go head-to-head with Ovechkin every game for the hell of it. The coaches know a lot more then we do, and for them to put him out against tough competition, speaks volumes for the type of player he is. He is a slightly above-average defensemen, yeah, he might have his faults here and there, but quite often, you don't realize him, and for the type of player he is, that is a good thing. - _Zippy_
Fixed.
It's the playoffs, not exactly the worst competition, but i get your point.
I disagree that he's a "great defenseman", but like I said I know you guys are on him but I'm simply not. He should be a bottom pair guy IMO, but if Sal leaves that kinda forces the hand anyway so I suppose it's an empty point. |
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zach parise9
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 07.10.2009
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Peter Harrold played against the toughest competition in the playoffs as well and did fairly well. Want to pay him $2.5M.
I said Fayne is OK. He's solid. But I disagree he's a middle pairing guy. He had guys blow past him like a cone as often as Larsson did. Fayne's perception got inflated a little because he played well under Lemaire. Well, my argument is that everyone played well under Lemaire. I think $2M should be the max per he should be offered. If he gets zealous and wants Jackman money, let him walk. I know he's young but NJ has an abundance of defensemen prospects and depth. At some point these guys are going to have to be either traded or let go via UFA status. I think Fayne is solid, with his youth he could get better as he grows, but for now I just don't see it. Like I said, he continually gets blown past and is out of position at perhaps the most inopportune times and can't clear the crease (I think he had 3-4 goals go in off his skate or stick this year), but he's still out of position and puts himself in those spots in the first place.
Face it, i know this site loves to circle-jerk about Fayne, but I'm not buying it. I can live with him getting $2.5M but the closer that figure gets to $3M the more I see the same old Lou overpaying average guys. - FLdevilsFAN
Not true. He has been so solid this year and in the playoffs. Showed some good composure. He is also big and has good reach. I don't see any reason to just let him go. |
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_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ Joined: 01.26.2012
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Fixed.
It's the playoffs, not exactly the worst competition, but i get your point.
I disagree that he's a "great defenseman", but like I said I know you guys are on him but I'm simply not. He should be a bottom pair guy IMO, but if Sal leaves that kinda forces the hand anyway so I suppose it's an empty point. - FLdevilsFAN
By great, I mean steady/reliable. He is a reliable defensemen, good teams have players like him, they don't wow you, but they also don't let you down. He's consistent and solid throughout the season. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Nothing new,to see NY going after the big fish again.The history showed before that it does not meter who Rangers get,those players always find ways to suck.
Still can not forget how lousy Drury and Gomez played in NY.
All I can say is "good luck" again and lets get back to the Devils news. - NJD
pre lockout, that was always the case. But post lockout you couldn't be more wrong. |
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