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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
Ok on the prospect level we did great NHL lever well that sucks. Problem is yeah prospect can look great in the other leagues but when they come up here and the dont perform then we have nothing. GArth should now turn his attention to the NHL level where winning actually matters
- kasperrko


It takes time... all those prospects are just starting to make the team now..
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:12 AM ET
I have been a season ticket holder for a Loooong time. When they win 4 games in a row the place starts getting crowded. If they were a winning team they would sell 14,000 tickets.
- niteislander

I agree to an extent. The "If they were a winning team" part of the statement is where the problem lies. They would have to be consistently winning for that to happen, I just don't see that happening unless there are some drastic changes made. Including pizza man Capuano being fired.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
I agree to an extent. The "If they were a winning team" part of the statement is where the problem lies. They would have to be consistently winning for that to happen, I just don't see that happening unless there are some drastic changes made. Including pizza man Capuano being fired.
- Cptmjl


A reall goalie and a couple of D-man would do wonders for this team. I could care less if Capuano or Al Arbour was the coach. If you don't have a top goalie in the NHL u are going to lose... a lot.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
What "hockey site" has us in the top five? Last i checked we were middle tier according to THN? Where have we finished the last five years? Don't you think if you have picked in the top five for five years we should have shown at least a marginal rise in the standings?
- Cptmjl



Hockey Futures has us @ #2.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
What "hockey site" has us in the top five? Last i checked we were middle tier according to THN? Where have we finished the last five years? Don't you think if you have picked in the top five for five years we should have shown at least a marginal rise in the standings?
- Cptmjl


Most of them
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
A reall goalie and a couple of D-man would do wonders for this team. I could care less if Capuano or Al Arbour was the coach. If you don't have a top goalie in the NHL u are going to lose... a lot.
- niteislander

Wow, I have to disagree with you there. I agree with your goalie comment again to an extent. We do need a top goalie, who doesn't? Having a perpetual loser coaching your team is not a good thing either.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Most of them
- niteislander

When these prospects become real NHL players I will believe them, until then they are all liars
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Obviously . His point is it has shown no progress.
- Cptmjl



TONS of progress. If you cant see that... you never will

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
True unfortunately I know a lot of die hards through out the year who dont even watch the team anymore cause they always say how sad it is to watch this go from the kings of the NHL to a laughing stock. It is sad how many die hards wont watch anymore
- kasperrko



then they arent die hards.

XxNYIxX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
TONS of progress. If you cant see that... you never will

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Just because we have more prospects then before and we were lucky enough to draft John Tavares does not mean we have shown progress. Picking in the top five for five years straight does not show progress for a "professional" sports team.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
When these prospects become real NHL players I will believe them, until then they are all liars
- Cptmjl



When we draft these kids they are only 18 years old. Just coming out of high school.

It takes 2 to 3 years for these kids to mature.

Unlike football where most of those guys are grown men already.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
then they arent die hards.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

I hate this comment, it's not true at all. I know a few. Die hard doesn't mean you blindly follow stupidity.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
When we draft these kids they are only 18 years old. Just coming out of high school.

It takes 2 to 3 years for these kids to mature.

Unlike football where most of those guys are grown men already.

- jimmc7722

I agree, you are right. We started this five years ago.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
What "hockey site" has us in the top five? Last i checked we were middle tier according to THN? Where have we finished the last five years? Don't you think if you have picked in the top five for five years we should have shown at least a marginal rise in the standings?
- Cptmjl



Quite a few.

XxNYIxX
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Wow, I have to disagree with you there. I agree with your goalie comment again to an extent. We do need a top goalie, who doesn't? Having a perpetual loser coaching your team is not a good thing either.
- Cptmjl

If you have a terrible goalie situation.... that makes the coach a loser.. fyi.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Quite a few.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Really? Which ones? I remember THN putting us in the middle of the pack?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Just because we have more prospects then before and we were lucky enough to draft John Tavares does not mean we have shown progress. Picking in the top five for five years straight does not show progress for a "professional" sports team.
- Cptmjl



Look @ what LA did with their prospect pool.

They kept building it up... then made a few trades, and they are on top of the world....

Chicago, and Pittsburgh were similar.

I do agree that Garth has to step it up and make some bigtime decisions this year.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
If you have a terrible goalie situation.... that makes the coach a loser.. fyi.
- niteislander

This is a ridiculous comment. This is what made Capuano make some of the most blatantly horrible coaching decisions most of us have witnessed?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
Look @ what LA did with their prospect pool.

They kept building it up... then made a few trades, and they are on top of the world....

Chicago, and Pittsburgh were similar.

I do agree that Garth has to step it up and make some bigtime decisions this year.

- jimmc7722

Time for him to be a GM, agreed.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
I agree, you are right. We started this five years ago.
- Cptmjl



4 years ago... and it's time to do something this year.

We have lots of cap room... we have to make it to the cap floor.

We have the #4 pick in the draft.

If Garth doesn't pull the trigger on something this year... then I will go on record of saying he should be fired @ the end of the season!!!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
4 years ago... and it's time to do something this year.

We have lots of cap room... we have to make it to the cap floor.

We have the #4 pick in the draft.

If Garth doesn't pull the trigger on something this year... then I will go on record of saying he should be fired @ the end of the season!!!

- jimmc7722

We will have your wolfpac membership application waiting for you. Getting it together now.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:39 AM ET
This is a ridiculous comment. This is what made Capuano make some of the most blatantly horrible coaching decisions most of us have witnessed?
- Cptmjl

like what? Pulled the goalie early?

Ken Hitchcock is one of the better coaches in the league. He did not have a good goalie in Philly or columbus and got fired. Goalie is a pretty big piece to the puzzle.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 11:40 AM ET
We will have your Debbie Downer membership application waiting for you. Getting it together now.
- Cptmjl


Fixed.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
like what? Pulled the goalie early?

Ken Hitchcock is one of the better coaches in the league. He did not have a good goalie in Philly or columbus and got fired. Goalie is a pretty big piece to the puzzle.

- niteislander

I agree but so is the coach. Not only pulling the goalie early. We aren't going to debate whether Capuano is a good coach or not, are we?
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
We will have your wolfpac membership application waiting for you. Getting it together now.
- Cptmjl



NWO style....

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