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niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
TRADE THE PICK FOR A PLAYER WHO CAN CONTRIBUTE NOW!!!!

PK Subban perhaps?

- kindlyrick


we have talked about that in the past... I would not be upset to see this pick moved for a player like PK.. but I think it would take a prospect too.. at least.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:10 AM ET
I am sure no matter who we pick all the Debbie Downers will hate it.. I am just hoping we don't trade down. This draft is very top heavy and we have a top 4 pick. Wether we pick a forward or a D-man at 4 we should be fine. As myself and Scli has talked about in the past... I would then love to see them use some other picks to move up for a later pick in the first round to grab one of these Big D-men that will take some time to develop. There are a bunch.
- niteislander

I agree, wouldn't mind it at all. Either that or trade the pick for a legit, hitting, dman if there is a trade to be had?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:10 AM ET
Debbie Downer #1 is here
- niteislander

Wow, I thought I had this title?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:14 AM ET
Wow, I thought I had this title?
- Cptmjl

I have not assigned numbers..he was first comment.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:16 AM ET
The problem with your Debbie Downer logic is we have 18 million we HAVE to spend to get to the cap floor. somehow I don't think Pando and Staois are going to get 9 mill each... I could be wrong though.
- niteislander

The problem with this is what happened last year, how about the year before? We have had to reach the floor the last couple years and this "cap space" was wasted on garbage. These rumors of Tim Thomas being signed or some other player that's not actually going to play are worrisome. If Snow actually spends this money on legit NHL players who are capable of contributing then this team could be a decent team. The other side of this is if he doesn't and does what he's done in the past we WILL be picking in the top five again next year. I have a hard time assuming he is going to do the right thing suddenly this year with his track record. If he does, awesome but if i were a betting man...
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:19 AM ET
I am sure no matter who we pick all the Debbie Downers will hate it.. I am just hoping we don't trade down. This draft is very top heavy and we have a top 4 pick. Wether we pick a forward or a D-man at 4 we should be fine. As myself and Scli has talked about in the past... I would then love to see them use some other picks to move up for a later pick in the first round to grab one of these Big D-men that will take some time to develop. There are a bunch.
- niteislander



Moving up some how would be great.

It would be nice to have 2 of the top defenceman in the draft.

Any combo of Murray, Dumba, Trouba, Reinhart, or Rielly.

You would need two top 10 picks.

The only way your doing that is parlaying the 4th and 34th pick into the equation.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
Wow, I thought I had this title?
- Cptmjl



Youre actually an Islanders fan... not a very positive one, but still a fan...
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
The problem with this is what happened last year, how about the year before? We have had to reach the floor the last couple years and this "cap space" was wasted on garbage. These rumors of Tim Thomas being signed or some other player that's not actually going to play are worrisome. If Snow actually spends this money on legit NHL players who are capable of contributing then this team could be a decent team. The other side of this is if he doesn't and does what he's done in the past we WILL be picking in the top five again next year. I have a hard time assuming he is going to do the right thing suddenly this year with his track record. If he does, awesome but if i were a betting man...
- Cptmjl



Top 2 prospects next year will be amazing. Is it too late to start tanking now....
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
My guess... We keep the pick and draft one of the guys on everyone's short list.

We don't get Suter.. but get one of the other UFA's.. .like always the second group (not Redden.. but Streit...etc.). We then make a trade where we give up nada and take a player from a team with Cap issues... (funny feeling we get Komi b/c toronto hates him.. and they will probably give us a pick for taking him.. our 7th for Komi and a 4th or some sht.. ). We will probably sign another UFA forward for too much to take PA's place.. someone we don't really want but has a name so will make a splash. (Semin anyone?).
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:24 AM ET
Moving up some how would be great.

It would be nice to have 2 of the top defenceman in the draft.

Any combo of Murray, Dumba, Trouba, Reinhart, or Rielly.

You would need two top 10 picks.

The only way your doing that is parlaying the 4th and 34th pick into the equation.

- jimmc7722

This would be awesome.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Moving up some how would be great.

It would be nice to have 2 of the top defenceman in the draft.

Any combo of Murray, Dumba, Trouba, Reinhart, or Rielly.
You would need two top 10 picks.

The only way your doing that is parlaying the 4th and 34th pick into the equation.

- jimmc7722


Like BD I think we are going forward with our #1.. so these guys would all be gone by the time we pick next.. even if we manage to move up into later first round... but we could get a guy like Ceci, Skeji, Maata, etc.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:25 AM ET
Top 2 prospects next year will be amazing. Is it too late to start tanking now....
- jimmc7722

It's never too early, we are Islander fans
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
seeing as our GM seems to love incredibly tall goalies I am nervous there is 2 over 6'5" in the top 50 of this draft.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:29 AM ET
seeing as our GM seems to love incredibly tall goalies I am nervous there is 2 over 6'5" in the top 50 of this draft.
- niteislander


OMG, if the Islanders pick another goalie in the first two rounds I might freak out and I am not an Islanders fan.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:30 AM ET
seeing as our GM seems to love incredibly tall goalies I am nervous there is 2 over 6'5" in the top 50 of this draft.
- niteislander

You are just going to rile up the wolfpac with comments like this
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
OMG, if the Islanders pick another goalie in the first two rounds I might freak out and I am not an Islanders fan.
- jimbro83

Yeah, we would all shat ourselves. I'd put mine in a paper bag and light it on fire on Snow's door step.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yeah, we would all shat ourselves. I'd put mine in a paper bag and light it on fire and put it on Snow's door step.
- Cptmjl

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:33 AM ET
OMG, if the Islanders pick another goalie in the first two rounds I might freak out and I am not an Islanders fan.
- jimbro83


If they are still there in 3rd round.. no way he passes.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:34 AM ET
The problem with your Debbie Downer logic is we have 18 million we HAVE to spend to get to the cap floor. somehow I don't think Pando and Staois are going to get 9 mill each... I could be wrong though.
- niteislander


Come on though these past few years the Islanders have done nothing just sat back and watched. I dont know why everyone thinks this year would be different give me one good reason I should think differently??
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:34 AM ET
Why pick another goalie...isn't Poulin and Neilsen enough?
- kear20

Neilsen is our second or 3rd line center... Nillson is our goalie prospect who looks very much like the real deal. .. as does Poulin.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:36 AM ET
You are just going to rile up the wolfpac with comments like this
- Cptmjl

That's right...not going to happen though... unless they trade Neilsen or Poulin as part of a package for a top 4 defenseman or top 6 forward...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:37 AM ET
Neilsen is our second or 3rd line center... Nillson is our goalie prospect who looks very much like the real deal. .. as does Poulin.
- niteislander

Sorry...I meant Nillson...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:37 AM ET
That's right...not going to happen though... unless they trade Neilsen or Poulin as part of a package for a top 4 defenseman or top 6 forward...
- kear20

I must have Franz on my mind today...I meant Nilsson...
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:39 AM ET
Come on though these past few years the Islanders have done nothing just sat back and watched. I dont know why everyone thinks this year would be different give me one good reason I should think differently??
- kasperrko

Yes We sat back when the Rangers gave Redden 6 mill a year forever. We sat back when Toronto "stole" our hero Jason Blake for over 5 mill a year forever. We sat back while Gomez got a zillion dollars, and Drury got a zillion dollars, etc. etc. sometimes sitting back is the right thing to do ..
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:42 AM ET
I must have Franz on my mind today...I meant Nilsson...
- kear20

You can't have too many goalie prospects in the fold. It Clearly is the most important position on the ice... clearly. Between Nillson, Poulin, Koskinen, etc.... one of these will be the franchise goaltender we Desperately need.
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