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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
2 seasons, and that's in large part because he signed on with the Leafs, who had a backlog with Giggy as the vet, Gus who they were still trying to figure out, and Reimer, who'd worked his way up with the Leafs.

He signed on to work with Allaire, just like the rest did.

- Schenn-Sational!



don't ever remember scrivens being that big of a deal. he shocked a lot of people with cornell, but he still wasn't the next big thing coming out of it.

i wouldn't say there was some kind of huge bidding war for him, that was gus. he was a project from the outset
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:16 PM ET
i don't care what anyone says.. gillis isn't letting him go for "nothing"

it's a completely useless move for the leafs.

- joel878



Name me one other team that takes Lou??

What are Gillis options?

He has to resign Schneider......

Keep Lou as his backup???

It's only a matter of how much garbage Gillis HAS to eat
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 17 @ 11:17 PM ET
How is it the chicken way out? Luongo is a good goalie, just cause his contract poop and we dont have the cap space to acquire him exactly, does not mean he is not good. Alot of teams would want luongo, though with luongos short list of teams, it will never happen.
- Mapleleafs_91



I would think that having a good goalie in net would allow the rest of the teams confidence to grow along with the teams development....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 17 @ 11:18 PM ET
Name me one other team that takes Lou??

What are Gillis options?

He has to resign Schneider......

Keep Lou as his backup???

It's only a matter of how much garbage Gillis HAS to eat

- faceto27


Are you kidding? Gillis would sooner play Schneids and Luo 40 games each before giving Luo away for crap...
P-Nut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto , ON
Joined: 05.14.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
The Leafs really needs a goaltender that chokes under pressure.

If Luongo can't handle the pressure in Vancouver, WTF is he going to do in Toronto?

- ShafterBenRaide


explain how he is a choker
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
don't ever remember scrivens being that big of a deal. he shocked a lot of people with cornell, but he still wasn't the next big thing coming out of it.

i wouldn't say there was some kind of huge bidding war for him, that was gus. he was a project from the outset

- joel878

There were a few teams I think that were after him, Pittsburgh, Philly, Nashville?, don't remember exactly.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:20 PM ET
How is it the chicken way out? Luongo is a good goalie, just cause his contract poop and we dont have the cap space to acquire him exactly, does not mean he is not good. Alot of teams would want luongo, though with luongos short list of teams, it will never happen.
- Mapleleafs_91

if a lot of teams would want Luongo.......... why are we the only ones who is his rumored destination?

IF we get luongo for dirt cheap.......... I may be able to handle it but it still pisses me off because we will be pretty much destroying any chance of finding out what we actually have in Scrivens or Reimer. Luongo plays 60-70 games for hte next 5 years and eats up 5.3 mill in cap space and our young goalies rot on the bench or in the ahl

Than when Luongo is on the downturn, we're back to wondering what we have in a 31 year old Reimer and a 30 year old Scrivens who have basically played very little the last 5 years....... awesome
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:20 PM ET
I would think that having a good goalie in net would allow the rest of the teams confidence to grow along with the teams development....
- chompsey


Exactly, i really think luongo is coming to the leafs though but not for the price of what leaf fans are saying or canuck fans. Burke likes to go around things and try to give up our 1st rounders or high end prospects, if a trade were to happen it be decent, not crap, not an overpayment, taking in the consideratin of how long luongos contract is.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:20 PM ET
Are you kidding? Gillis would sooner play Schneids and Luo 40 games each before giving Luo away for crap...
- chompsey



So gillis is going to tie up approx 10 million in goalies???


Think again!
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
explain how he is a choker
- P-Nut

hmm
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
if a lot of teams would want Luongo.......... why are we the only ones who is his rumored destination?

IF we get luongo for dirt cheap.......... I may be able to handle it but it still pisses me off because we will be pretty much destroying any chance of finding out what we actually have in Scrivens or Reimer. Luongo plays 60-70 games for hte next 5 years and eats up 5.3 mill in cap space and our young goalies rot on the bench or in the ahl

Than when Luongo is on the downturn, we're back to wondering what we have in a 31 year old Reimer and a 30 year old Scrivens who have basically played very little the last 5 years....... awesome

- Sheppy99


Because luongo wouldnt want to go there and his list is shortened since florida has 2 goalies set, tampa said no, chicago would be a bad idea as hell since it will make them super good super fast instant cup finals surely again, and leaving the leafs last.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
Mike Augello: Tampa Trade Puts Toronto In Good Bargaining Position
- mikeinbuffalo





LIESSSSSSS! I wanted Lindback.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:24 PM ET
Are you kidding? Gillis would sooner play Schneids and Luo 40 games each before giving Luo away for crap...
- chompsey


You have other issues (secondary scoring, grit) you need to address; having huge dollars tied up in net is not going to help. Plus, if Lou's not gone, Schneider's not signing more than a year if not offersheeted.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:24 PM ET
Because luongo wouldnt want to go there and his list is shortened since florida has 2 goalies set, tampa said no, chicago would be a bad idea as hell since it will make them super good super fast instant cup finals surely again, and leaving the leafs last.
- Mapleleafs_91


You do realize taking Luongo basically means you're giving up 100 percent on scrivens and Reimer being our future...... are you willing to do that?

If you take away the chance to progress at this vital time in their careers, they won't amount to jack $hit playing behind Luongo for the next 5 years.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:25 PM ET
Hard to take you seriously when youve been sold by MLSE's crap for a decade now....
- chompsey


It's pretty hard to take a cupless franchise seriously, let alone one that has nothing to show for back-to-back President's Trophies and bounced in 5 this season. Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch.

Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:25 PM ET
You do realize taking Luongo basically means you're giving up 100 percent on scrivens and Reimer being our future...... are you willing to do that?

If you take away the chance to progress at this vital time in their careers, they won't amount to jack $hit playing behind Luongo for the next 5 years.

- Sheppy99




Were you born in 1999?


But I agree with everything you said.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:26 PM ET
You do realize taking Luongo basically means you're giving up 100 percent on scrivens and Reimer being our future...... are you willing to do that?

If you take away the chance to progress at this vital time in their careers, they won't amount to jack $hit playing behind Luongo for the next 5 years.

- Sheppy99


Yes im willing to do that, though you shove scrivens or reimer in the net occasionally to see what they can do, luongo is good but you have to show boat a little to see what they can do. Trust luongo will be a great mentor for them and once luongo slowly dies out, you sub them in for starter.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:26 PM ET
You do realize taking Luongo basically means you're giving up 100 percent on scrivens and Reimer being our future...... are you willing to do that?

If you take away the chance to progress at this vital time in their careers, they won't amount to jack $hit playing behind Luongo for the next 5 years.

- Sheppy99


What will likely happen is that unless Lou comes for cheap, we go with Reimer and a Biron or somebody like that. I'd like to see Scrivens backing up Reimer, but I don't think Burke will.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
Name me one other team that takes Lou??

What are Gillis options?

He has to resign Schneider......

Keep Lou as his backup???

It's only a matter of how much garbage Gillis HAS to eat

- faceto27



he doesn't HAVE to trade anyone, if anything.. there's been reports lately suggesting he will keep both.

schneider is an RFA, he either signs, or sits. lou is under contract.. he plays the role he's been given.. and that's all there is to it, unless he likes retirement, or russia.

the common narrow minded myth out there is that gillis HAS to trade a goaltender, he doesn't.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
It's pretty hard to take a cupless franchise seriously, let alone one that has nothing to show for back-to-back President's Trophies and bounced in 5 this season. Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch.
- As_I_See_It


squashed like a bug
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
Yes im willing to do that, though you shove scrivens or reimer in the net occasionally to see what they can do, luongo is good but you have to show boat a little to see what they can do. Trust luongo will be a great mentor for them and once luongo slowly dies out, you sub them in for starter.
- Mapleleafs_91


Problem is, Lou's contract will stay long after he's effective. I know the cap's going up, but that's still a lot of salary and a NTC to make things difficult.
P-Nut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto , ON
Joined: 05.14.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:29 PM ET
scrivens would be far from the first goaltender to "dominate" the ahl. yann denis is the latest. people over estimate how the levels translate.
- joel878


not over or underestimating.. just not ready to write him off as a career back up yet
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
Problem is, Lou's contract will stay long after he's effective. I know the cap's going up, but that's still a lot of salary and a NTC to make things difficult.
- gravyface


I guess the only positive thing im looking forward to this summer is the signing of justin schultz then.... yippie
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
You do realize taking Luongo basically means you're giving up 100 percent on scrivens and Reimer being our future...... are you willing to do that?

If you take away the chance to progress at this vital time in their careers, they won't amount to jack $hit playing behind Luongo for the next 5 years.

- Sheppy99



not necessarily.

reimer is better suited with someone he can share duties with, but i think scrivens is better suited in the minors. either having to take the responsibility and workload of the team, will most likely be disastrous.

there needs to be another goalie, but it is definitely not luongo.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
he doesn't HAVE to trade anyone, if anything.. there's been reports lately suggesting he will keep both.

schneider is an RFA, he either signs, or sits. lou is under contract.. he plays the role he's been given.. and that's all there is to it, unless he likes retirement, or russia.

the common narrow minded myth out there is that gillis HAS to trade a goaltender, he doesn't.

- joel878


if he wants to make his team better, he does. Having 10M tied up in the back end (and knowing Schneider's not going to sign longer than a year) cripples them short-term, and hinders them long-term by losing Schneider the following year.
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