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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
Not a good night to try to rush home via College Street.
- Atomic Wedgie


Spain just scored ....good for the Azzuri ....College will blow up in about 5 minutes.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
OK, how about this.

I'm a bazillionaire. I need a pickup truck for the next 6 years. After that 6 years, I may or may not need that pickup truck anymore.

The truck lot will only sell me a pickup truck with a 10 year contract.

But as I stated before, I'm a bazillionaire. So I couldn't really care less. I'll happily make the reasonable payments for six years, and at the end of six years, decide whether or not I want to keep driving the truck.

And if I decide I don't want the truck anymore, I'll drive it down to the Ricoh Centre parking lot, and park it there, where it will remain for the next four years. And I won't give a rat's arse about it. If my cousin Jimmy wants to drive it, great. If it gets stolen, great. I really won't care. I'll continue to make payments for the final four years of the contract, because it's just money, and I don't care about a measly $7 million dollars - it's just money, and it doesn't count against the spending cap my wife holds me to. I won't ever have to buy out the truck, because then my wife will hold those buyout payments against my spending cap. But if it sits in the Ricoh parking lot, it doesn't count against the cap. It's just money. And I'm a bazillionaire, so money means absolutely nothing to me.

So I get to use a truck for six years, which I need, and then at the end of the six years, I can either keep using the truck, or completely forget about it. Either way, it's just money - and I don't care about money.

Does that help?

- Atomic Wedgie



...but why buy a used, beaten, slow, old truck when there are plenty of peppy, shiny, new ones?
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
Smarten up.
- jbold

Suck it slow
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
Suck it slow
- tmlfan17

Smarten up when you're talking to me and don't waste my time.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:38 PM ET
To Ottawa: Cody Franson

To Tor: Zack Smith

- tmlfan17

great...another 4th line centre.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:39 PM ET
great...another 4th line centre.
- Barx

"Any hockey guys who watch and understand the game would do this trade.



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:39 PM ET
...but why buy a used, beaten, slow, old truck when there are plenty of peppy, shiny, new ones?
- Barx

Well, I actually think this truck could do a pretty good job for the next four or five years.

And I'm not sure that I agree that there are plenty of peppy, shiny new ones.

New? Yes.

Able to do the job I need them to do?

Probably not.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
Well, I actually think this truck could do a pretty good job for the next four or five years.

And I'm not sure that I agree that there are plenty of peppy, shiny new ones.

New? Yes.

Able to do the job I need them to do?

Probably not.

- Atomic Wedgie

you just need to get from A to B with it.....stop being so needy and drive the two decent ones you already have.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
you just need to get from A to B with it.....stop being so needy and drive the two decent ones you already have.
- Barx

Are you tired of this analogy yet?
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
Are you tired of this analogy yet?
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah...lets move on.

so, forsberg, grigorenko or faksa.......meh, nevermind, we've beaten that to death too....
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
great...another 4th line centre.
- Barx

Actually a 3rd line center and knows his role...sometimes you trade for guys based on how they can help your team not because of what the back of their hockey card say's.
Has decent hands and can fight who's our 3rd or 4th line center that's doing that and scored 14 goals last year with 100 Pims
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
"Any hockey guys who watch and understand the game would do this trade.




- jbold

...provided they are a sens fan.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
yeah...lets move on.

so, forsberg, grigorenko or faska.......meh, nevermind, we've beaten that to death too....

- Barx

Something tells me it will pick up again, can't wait for Friday but most of all to have the picks made, then the dissection of the chosen begins.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
Something tells me it will pick up again, can't wait for Friday but most of all to have the picks made, then the dissection of the chosen begins.
- LeafMan

dan tencer did a mock draft and has us picking faksa over grigorenko.....i dunno, faksa just seems so.....ordinary.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:48 PM ET
Spain just scored ....good for the Azzuri ....College will blow up in about 5 minutes.
- The Law

Apparently it already did - shooting in Little Italy - one dead.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:48 PM ET
Actually a 3rd line center and knows his role...sometimes you trade for guys based on how they can help your team not because of what the back of their hockey card say's.
Has decent hands and can fight who's our 3rd or 4th line center that's doing that and scored 14 goals last year with 100 Pims

- tmlfan17

I have nothing against him, but let's be honest, his ceiling ain't too high
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Something tells me it will pick up again, can't wait for Friday but most of all to have the picks made, then the dissection of the chosen begins.
- LeafMan

I can't wait to log on Saturday afternoon, and get into a heated debate as to who Toronto should select with their 5th round pick.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Apparently it already did - shooting in Little Italy - one dead.
- Atomic Wedgie


wow, italians cant party without getting anyone killed?
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
I can't wait to log on Saturday afternoon, and get into a heated debate as to who Toronto should select with their 5th round pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

I can't wait for some goddam trades!
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
...provided they are a sens fan.
- Barx[/
That's fair your projection of how good and valuable Cody Franson is on the open market is a little higher than Zack Smith.
I know you want to use him in your trade for Staal or Getlaf
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:52 PM ET
Why is it that my wife who doesnt work, feels like she can spend $500 at the vet to look into why our 12 year old fat cat isnt eating all of a sudden
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:52 PM ET
[quote=Barx]...provided they are a sens fan.
- tmlfan17[/
That's fair your projection of how good and valuable Cody Franson is on the open market is a little higher than Zack Smith.
I know you want to use him in your trade for Staal or Getlaf

easy tiger.
a young, potential top 4 or 5 dman with size, and mobility has more value than a 4th line plug.
sorry, it's just a fact.
nothing against smith, i would love a few more guys with a chip on their shoulder, but what you see is what you get.
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
I have nothing against him, but let's be honest, his ceiling ain't too high
- Barx

His ceiling is most likely a 3rd line center but actually plays his role.
Can I ask what your ceiling is on Cody Franson with the Leafs.
Who's your 3rd line center for Toronto next year and does he bring more to the table than Zack Smith.
AnnGee44
Joined: 10.21.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:55 PM ET
Contracts:
Mark Owuya
Ben Scrivens
James Reimer
Jussi Rynnas
Luke Schenn
Mark Fraser
Dion Phaneuf
Stuart Percy
Cody Franson
Korbinian Holzer

Mike Komisarek
Jake Gardiner
JM Liles
Simon Gysbers
Carl Gunnarsson
Jesse Blacker
Petter Granberg
Greg Scott
Colby Armstrong
Marcel Mueller
Ryan Hamilton

Tim Connolly
Nazem Kadri
Matthew Lombardi
Spencer Abbott
Clarke MacArthur
Nicolas Deschamps
Mike Brown
Carter Ashton
Joffrey Lupul
David Steckel
Joe Colborne
Matt Frattin
Colton Orr
Jerry D'Amigo
David Broll
Jay Rosehill
Nik Kulemin

Tyler Bozak
Joey Crabb
Brad Ross
Jamie Devane
Kenny Ryan
Greg McKegg
Sam Carrick
Leo Komarov
Tyler Biggs
Phil Kessel
Mikhail Grabovski
Andrew Crescenzi
Mike Zigomanis

Unsigned:
Garret Sparks
Eric Knodel
Andrew MacWilliam
Max Everson
Dennis Robertson
Chris Peluso
Tom Nilsson
Tony Camerenesi
Josh Leivo

Who of the italics gets resigned, and who gets shipped out? Which of the unsigned should be signed?
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
easy tiger.
a young, potential top 4 or 5 dman with size, and mobility has more value than a 4th line plug.
sorry, it's just a fact.
nothing against smith, i would love a few more guys with a chip on their shoulder, but what you see is what you get.

- Barx

So what are POTENTIAL 4 or 5 D-man going for these days....I'd say about guys like Smith, Foligno, Jay Mclement types...he played for Colorado so you don't have to look him up
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