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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:15 PM ET
GM's scout a lot as well though. Definitely not as much as the scouts but they still watch these kids play many times. Isn't JFJ the head of player development or the head of scouting for the Sharks? I know at one point he had some sort of title, he wasn't just a scout.
- dionschenn

Of course they do, a list is compiled with a meeting with the scouts and they know who they are going to pick if that player is available, if not they go next on the list.
jakrabbit
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeyville, NB
Joined: 06.25.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
Think there'll be any big splashes before the draft? Cant' wait to see how things unfold
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
I get it, it still doesn't change the fact when/if Burke makes a trade for Luongo that it will be on the grounds of a 10 year contract. The trade will be based on what's written, not what's speculated.

It's like leasing a car. The monthly payments are set based on the downpayment and the term of the lease, not "I may or may not buy this car out after my lease expires, so on the off chance that I do buy this car out, how much can you reduce my monthly payments?"

Are we good?

- As_I_See_It

OK, how about this.

I'm a bazillionaire. I need a pickup truck for the next 6 years. After that 6 years, I may or may not need that pickup truck anymore.

The truck lot will only sell me a pickup truck with a 10 year contract.

But as I stated before, I'm a bazillionaire. So I couldn't really care less. I'll happily make the reasonable payments for six years, and at the end of six years, decide whether or not I want to keep driving the truck.

And if I decide I don't want the truck anymore, I'll drive it down to the Ricoh Centre parking lot, and park it there, where it will remain for the next four years. And I won't give a rat's arse about it. If my cousin Jimmy wants to drive it, great. If it gets stolen, great. I really won't care. I'll continue to make payments for the final four years of the contract, because it's just money, and I don't care about a measly $7 million dollars - it's just money, and it doesn't count against the spending cap my wife holds me to. I won't ever have to buy out the truck, because then my wife will hold those buyout payments against my spending cap. But if it sits in the Ricoh parking lot, it doesn't count against the cap. It's just money. And I'm a bazillionaire, so money means absolutely nothing to me.

So I get to use a truck for six years, which I need, and then at the end of the six years, I can either keep using the truck, or completely forget about it. Either way, it's just money - and I don't care about money.

Does that help?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
Think there'll be any big splashes before the draft? Cant' wait to see how things unfold
- jakrabbit

I'm calling Louongo to be a Leaf by tomorrow night.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
OK, how about this.

I'm a bazillionaire. I need a pickup truck for the next 6 years. After that 6 years, I may or may not need that pickup truck anymore.

The truck lot will only sell me a pickup truck with a 10 year contract.

But as I stated before, I'm a bazillionaire. So I couldn't really care less. I'll happily make the reasonable payments for six years, and at the end of six years, decide whether or not I want to keep driving the truck.

And if I decide I don't want the truck anymore, I'll drive it down to the Ricoh Centre parking lot, and park it there, where it will remain for the next four years. And I won't give a rat's arse about it. If my cousin Jimmy wants to drive it, great. If it gets stolen, great. I really won't care. I'll continue to make payments for the final four years of the contract, because it's just money, and I don't care about a measly $7 million dollars - it's just money, and it doesn't count against the spending cap my wife holds me to. I won't ever have to buy out the truck, because then my wife will hold those buyout payments against my spending cap. But if it sits in the Ricoh parking lot, it doesn't count against the cap. It's just money. And I'm a bazillionaire, so money means absolutely nothing to me.

So I get to use a truck for six years, which I need, and then at the end of the six years, I can either keep using the truck, or completely forget about it. Either way, it's just money - and I don't care about money.

Does that help?

- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah but then everyone thinks your a Richard for just leaving your trash around.
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
How about Franson for Foligno?
- Leafland

Dion say's no
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
Dion say's no
- tmlfan17

Dion isn't in my future plans.
jakrabbit
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeyville, NB
Joined: 06.25.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'm calling Louongo to be a Leaf by tomorrow night.
- Leafland



Burke will announce that trade just before the Oilers step up to make the first pick at the draft, his little way of stealing the spotlight
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'm calling Louongo to be a Leaf by tomorrow night.
- Leafland

Will his contract be for six years or ten years?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yeah but then everyone thinks your a Richard for just leaving your trash around.
- Leafland

Yeah, but everyone already trashes me on TruckBuzz anyways, so I don't really care what people think.

When it comes to auto leasing, I'm truculent, belligerent, bellicose...
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Will his contract be for six years or ten years?
- Atomic Wedgie

His contract will be for 10 years, we will win the Cup with him when he is 39 years of age.
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
Zack Smith to Toronto makes perfect sense. The Leafs need a 3rd line center with size and toughness.
The Senators need a D-Man like Cody Franson to replace Kuba and soon to be Gonchar.
Both are young and both help fill the other teams needs despite being rivals.
Good hockey trade no?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
Yeah but then everyone thinks your a Richard for just leaving your trash around.
- Leafland


Yeah but then, while your sipping your Macallan 64, you remember you don't give a poop about what other people think because you're a bazillianaire.

Edit: Anybody sitting near an Italian soccer fan may want to move outside of spitting distance.

Double Edit: poop, nvmd ...i jinxed it.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
Yeah, but everyone already trashes me on TruckBuzz anyways, so I don't really care what people think.

When it comes to auto leasing, I'm truculent, belligerent, bellicose...

- Atomic Wedgie

Cantankerous?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
His contract will be for 10 years, we will win the Cup with him when he is 39 years of age.
- Leafland

Think he will get along in the dressing room with Getzlaf and Staal(s)?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:28 PM ET


Only 21 years old. When he and the Leafs make the playoffs, he'll be growing epic beards. Just thought I'd point that out. I have really nothing to add to the current topic of conversation.

- AnnGee44

Have you seen Browns beard he's growing?

He's not shaving until November, Leafs twitter posted a progress picture of it.

https://twitter.com/#!/MapleLeafs/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagr.am%2Fp%2FK72qblIf2L%2F
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Zack Smith to Toronto makes perfect sense. The Leafs need a 3rd line center with size and toughness.
The Senators need a D-Man like Cody Franson to replace Kuba and soon to be Gonchar.
Both are young and both help fill the other teams needs despite being rivals.
Good hockey trade no?

- tmlfan17

No, now smarten up.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
Have you seen Browns beard he's growing?

He's not shaving until November, Leafs twitter posted a progress picture of it.

- jbold

Don't know if you ladies follow Canadian rugby, but Adam Kleeberger's beard was the greatest of all time:



Bad news: he shaved it off.

Good news: it was for charity.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
Think there'll be any big splashes before the draft? Cant' wait to see how things unfold
- jakrabbit


Maple leafs press conference called for 5:15 today.......The Leafs have picked up Roberto Luongo from Bosco Plumbing to be a sponsor next year.




jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
Don't know if you ladies follow Canadian rugby, but Adam Kleeberger's beard was the greatest of all time:



Bad news: he shaved it off.

Good news: it was for charity.

- Atomic Wedgie

Seen this on twitter a while ago.

1 word. Lion.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
Yeah but then, while your sipping your Macallan 64, you remember you don't give a poop about what other people think because you're a bazillianaire.

Edit: Anybody sitting near an Italian soccer fan may want to move outside of spitting distance.

- The Law

Not a good night to try to rush home via College Street.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
Maple leafs press conference called for 5:15 today.......The Leafs have picked up Roberto Luongo from Bosco Plumbing to be a sponsor next year.
- billyberg10

Well done, Billy Berg.

Well done.
tmlfan17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.22.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:34 PM ET
No, now smarten up.
- jbold

Great insight as to why not!
I actually enjoyed watching us get speed bagged by the Bruins so why bring in a big young center who has decent hands and doesn't mind throwing em.
I've seen your posts so your opinion doesn't matter...Any hockey guys who watch and understand the game do this trade
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
Seen this on twitter a while ago.

1 word. Lion.

- jbold

jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
Great insight as to why not!
I actually enjoyed watching us get speed bagged by the Bruins so why bring in a big young center who has decent hands and doesn't mind throwing em.
I've seen your posts so your opinion doesn't matter...Any hockey guys who watch and understand the game do this trade

- tmlfan17

Smarten up.
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