and also that prospect who has been playing two years in the league, Subban according to EE.
- LeafMan

yikessss, its obvious Price wants to come to Toronto to be our saviour

No clue as to where yet? Dani is being tight lipped about it, eh?
- LeafMan

yeah, kinda, tho she has dropped hints.. not gonna be just one place.. i know for at least a day or two we are going camping.. cause she admitted as much lol.. she needed to make sure we had everything we needed

all in all, she knows i just want a week away from technology and work.. a place to simply sit back with a couple books and unwind

1st Overall 2012 + Schenn for Duchene

1st Overall 2013, Colborne, Mac, Kulemin, Biggs for Evander Kane

2nd Rounder 2012, Damigo, Komisarek, Mueller for Luongo

Sign Justin Schultz.


Thus:

Kessel Grabo Lupul

E.Kane Duchene Kadri

Frattin Bozak Ashton

Crabbs Stecks Brown


Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Schultz

Liles Franson


Luongo
Reimer

Playoffs here we come

Lockout here we come! wooo
- mykokes

ummm bettman and fehr havent even begun talks yet

anyone else see the NHL is going to pheonix the devils? looks like they are going to be taking over the team

thats my problem tho.. i dont want him in the minors.. unlike finger, lu is a goalie.. not as easy to make room for four years..

you would essentially throw away a goaltending prospect in order to do that
- Dozzer

You're assuming they will have a goaltending prospect.
The question is this:
Does Lou make your team better over the next 5 - 6 years...yes.
Is he the best goalie who could be had.....yes that (that we know of).

Do it.

yeah i suppose.. however.. if the team has built properly and drafted well.. my hope would be that there wouldnt be any room for him down there

sooo i guess ECHL it is
- Dozzer

You're right it's a 10 year contract. No debating that. But in trying to determine whether you do it or not you have to consider that the last 3 years are chump change ....maybe less then chump change in Luongo world. He'll have earned close to 100 milly over his career and his salary is going from 7ish per year to 1ish ...that's not going inspire him to use his TML embossed coffee mug let alone lace them up for the year (train, practice, travel, and play back up to Mark in da park Owuya).

Seriously, you've won the lottery, your wife is smokin' hot, the kids are keeping you busy, you love golf, your girlfriends are hot .....then your boss tells you he's going to divide your weekly income by 7. Are you coming into work on Monday ...? Ain't happening ....0%.

10's of millions eh?
Have another look.
- Fakepartofme

If he plays for another 4 years, it is like 17,4 million.
If he plays another 3 years only (I was being facetious), it is like 23+ million I think.

The point is, there are NO guarantees he ever walks away from that contract.

yeah, kinda, tho she has dropped hints.. not gonna be just one place.. i know for at least a day or two we are going camping.. cause she admitted as much lol.. she needed to make sure we had everything we needed

all in all, she knows i just want a week away from technology and work.. a place to simply sit back with a couple books and unwind
- Dozzer

That's great,you need to just get away, I will be looking forward to that in July every weekend, then in December, we are gone for 10 days.

You're assuming they will have a goaltending prospect.
The question is this:
Does Lou make your team better over the next 5 - 6 years...yes.
Is he the best goalie who could be had.....yes that (that we know of).

Do it.
- Fakepartofme

whats the point tho? the rest of the team isnt at the level yet

thats where i find it to be an odd move

Can Luongo be traded to a team nobody is even talking about so this inanity can end.

He is a perfectly fine Goalie, could probably help the leafs make a push for the playoffs... But until we find a #1 Center who can lead the team, whats the point

1st Overall 2012 + Schenn for Duchene

1st Overall 2013, Colborne, Mac, Kulemin for Evander Kane

2nd Rounder 2012, Damigo, Komisarek, Mueller for Luongo
- Mapleleafs_91

I don't know how many more times you're going to post this but you must be convincing yourself it will happen by now. lol.

ummm bettman and fehr havent even begun talks yet

anyone else see the NHL is going to pheonix the devils? looks like they are going to be taking over the team
- Dozzer

Well, not entirely true. The two opportunities they had to lay down some positive ground work they let pass by.
Which isn't a big deal...but it's not too good of a sign either.

Here is the rationale both ways.

At age 39, Luongo's actual salary drops from $6.7M to $3.4M at age 40, then to $1.6M at 41, and finally $1.0M for 42 and 43.

Vancouver fans seem to think that he would have made enough $ by then that he will clearly retire by age 39...

The problem is that I rarely have ever seen a human being walk away from guaranteed $, espcially when it is in the Millions of Dollars range.

Lou is a competitor amnd will most likely play until he is physically unable (that is my guess).

Now, if he plays to this point, his cap hit will still remain at $5.6M and will cripple the team for those final 3-4 years. Is it worth it? Possibly, but not for Gardiner, Schenn, the 5th overall, and whatever other crap they seem to like to throw into the trade.
- mfreedman

Tim Thomas ...oh wait you said human being.

I don't know how many more times you're going to post this but you must be convincing yourself it will happen by now. lol.
- LeafMan

Nah some other dude posted it, but seems like a good idea haha

ummm bettman and fehr havent even begun talks yet

anyone else see the NHL is going to pheonix the devils? looks like they are going to be taking over the team
- Dozzer

Source?

Link?

whats the point tho? the rest of the team isnt at the level yet

thats where i find it to be an odd move
- Dozzer

Luongo gets the leafs into the playoffs.
Other pieces can be added when available.

You're right it's a 10 year contract. No debating that. But in trying to determine whether you do it or not you have to consider that the last 3 years are chump change ....maybe less then chump change in Luongo world. He'll have earned close to 100 milly over his career and his salary is going from 7ish per year to 1ish ...that's not going inspire him to use his TML embossed coffee mug let alone lace them up for the year (train, practice, travel, and play back up to Mark in da park Owuya).

Seriously, you've won the lottery, your wife is smokin' hot, the kids are keeping you busy, you love golf, your girlfriends are hot .....then your boss tells you he's going to divide your weekly income by 7. Are you coming into work on Monday ...? Ain't happening ....0%.
- The Law

1/7th of our income is a lot different than 1/6th of Luongo's.

Those last few years are very significant dollars, even to someone who makes/made as much as he did...

Besides, what if he is divorced by then and his wife took half his caca.

Also, it isn't always about how much money you have or need or whethe ror not it changes his lifestyle.

It is also sometimes about what he wants to do day to day, or maybe he just wants that little bit more to make sure he leaves his children as much as possible.

You're right it's a 10 year contract. No debating that. But in trying to determine whether you do it or not you have to consider that the last 3 years are chump change ....maybe less then chump change in Luongo world. He'll have earned close to 100 milly over his career and his salary is going from 7ish per year to 1ish ...that's not going inspire him to use his TML embossed coffee mug let alone lace them up for the year (train, practice, travel, and play back up to Mark in da park Owuya).

Seriously, you've won the lottery, your wife is smokin' hot, the kids are keeping you busy, you love golf, your girlfriends are hot .....then your boss tells you he's going to divide your weekly income by 7. Are you coming into work on Monday ...? Ain't happening ....0%.
- The Law

aboslutely.. common sense dictates that.. but a contract is a legal arrangement, and must be viewed as such

you bring a guy in with the assumption he will retire early you have simply put yourself at risk.. and unnecessarily

seriously? lu should go to a contender.. not a team 3-4 years out from being a regular playoff team.. it just doesnt make sense

Source?

Link?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think I saw a link on Canoe.ca

Source?

Link?
- Atomic Wedgie

http://tracking.si.com/20...-bettman-jeff-vanderbeek/

i believe the original story came from the NY Daily News

whats the point tho? the rest of the team isnt at the level yet

thats where i find it to be an odd move
- Dozzer

It's almost 50/50 or there about from what I read here and on twitter about Leaf fans wanting Luongo, a Leaf nation divided?

aboslutely.. common sense dictates that.. but a contract is a legal arrangement, and must be viewed as such

you bring a guy in with the assumption he will retire early you have simply put yourself at risk.. and unnecessarily

seriously? lu should go to a contender.. not a team 3-4 years out from being a regular playoff team.. it just doesnt make sense
- Dozzer

There is no risk. You just bury him in the A.

Would you trade Komisarek + $7 million for Luongo on a six-year contract?

Heck, yes.

Sure they are. Who says they have to deal Lou at all? Why trade him for nothing when you can use him for the next 5 years and trade Schneider for a much better return.
OR
Keep both goalies and play them both for the next year.....wait until a team is really desparate for a goalie.
Dont fall for all this BS that TO is the only that could get him.
- Fakepartofme

Nobody is saying that Toronto is "the only option," but it appears to be one of the better fits given their need and the limited market for Luongo. How can you even argue that Vancouver is dealing from strength when there are more factors working against them?

I don't think it's any secret that Gillis and the fans would prefer to make a much younger Schneider the #1 goalie and have an opportunity to hit the reset button on their goalie contracts, while getting Luongo's 10 year contract off the books BEFORE the CBA expires and Schneider is exposed to offer sheets on July 1st.

Sure, Vancouver can keep both, but having $5M sitting on the bench every night makes NO SENSE given that they're trying to win the cup NOW... Not to mention that the Sedins are in the tail end of their "prime years" which is generally considered 27 to 32. The Sedins are turning 32 in September.

The Canucks window to win the cup is N-O-W and Gillis needs to do what's in the best interest of this organization and committing $10M to goaltending isn't it.

Well, not entirely true. The two opportunities they had to lay down some positive ground work they let pass by.
Which isn't a big deal...but it's not too good of a sign either.
- Fakepartofme

i fully expect hockey next year.. even if its an extenion of the current CBA to buy time to work it out

both sides know another lockout could do irreversable damage to the product... not to mention NBC is invested now.. and they will likely threaten legal action if the NHL allows a lockout to occur

http://tracking.si.com/2012/06/18/new-jersey-devils-nhl-gary-bettman-jeff-vanderbeek/

i believe the original story came from the NY Daily News
- Dozzer

In the words of ET, "Ouch."