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Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
Not at, they have Schneider for 1 more year...Lou could be trade by then...or work a sign and trade deal....which doesn't limit the return...just the location.
Either way, the return will be greater than Lou's.
Gillis is in no rush, no need to be.
Again, just more T.O media hype crap.

- Fakepartofme


no, they dont.. his contract expired at the end of this season.

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=685
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
THe Leafs haven't had a good goalie since Belfour.....Lou would be a huge improvement over what they have now...HUGE.
- Fakepartofme

Van won't get a huge return on Lu, but he won't be had for a salary dump. Anyone who thinks so is in for a let down.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
Good afternoon all. Sup today?
- Domaju

Hey, All of a sudden I have become very thirsty.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Van won't get a huge return on Lu, but he won't be had for a salary dump. Anyone who thinks so is in for a let down.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


the "rumour" is that schneider "wont" resign unless Lou is moved

"if" thats the "truth" then gillis will have to sell real low or risk losing schneider




..........please note my use of quotation marks
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Would limiting the location not in turn limit the return they could get?
- Domaju

Maybe....but if a team really wants him...it wont.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Van won't get a huge return on Lu, but he won't be had for a salary dump. Anyone who thinks so is in for a let down.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

He is a salary dump, salary will be going both ways. You can call Komisarek anything you like.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
People should stop taking dshiddy remotely serious. He's just looking for reactions.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Ahh. Dshiddy. Never mind.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
THe Leafs haven't had a good goalie since Belfour.....Lou would be a huge improvement over what they have now...HUGE.
- Fakepartofme



Belfour didn't come with a franchise crippling contract, did he?
Domaju
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timmins, ON
Joined: 06.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
Hey, All of a sudden I have become very thirsty.
- LeafMan


That sucks. I've had 3 or 4 glasses of water in the last hour myself actually. But i'm also eating yogurt covered raisins...which don't sound good, but are freaking delicious.
Domaju
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timmins, ON
Joined: 06.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
Maybe....but if a team really wants him...it wont.
- Fakepartofme


It won't limit it AS much, but it would still reduce the return a fair bit imo
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
Van won't get a huge return on Lu, but he won't be had for a salary dump. Anyone who thinks so is in for a let down.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Burke will not trade for Lu if komi is not part of the package, and he shouldnt
Domaju
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timmins, ON
Joined: 06.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
Belfour didn't come with a franchise crippling contract, did he?
- prock


No, just an alcoholic problem causing him to flop around lmao
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
He is a salary dump, salary will be going both ways. You can call Komisarek anything you like.
- Leafland


You got that right if he's landing in TO salary needs to go the other way, we don't have the cap room otherwise! But i still cannot see a trade working out at all so....... whatever
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
no, they dont.. his contract expired at the end of this season.

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=685

- Dozzer

My mistake, however that really doesn't change much. It's all about how you sell it to Schneider....if the plan is to hang onto Lou until a better deal comes, but tell Schneider is the future....than it wont be a problem.
IT really depends on what Gillis plan is.
The point is, TO is not the only option and Gillis wont take our crap to unload Lou.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
the "rumour" is that schneider "wont" resign unless Lou is moved

"if" thats the "truth" then gillis will have to sell real low or risk losing schneider




..........please note my use of quotation marks

- Dozzer

so if those "rumours" are "true".. then dont trade for Lu and really screw up Vancouver
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Can we all agree to stop responding to the 'nucks fans on this?

They think Luongo is all that and a bag of chips. We disagree.

No point in going round and round and round.

Let's just thank them for their input, and say we shall wait and see.

Don't feed the trolls.

- Atomic Wedgie


They don't even believe that.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
My mistake, however that really doesn't change much. It's all about how you sell it to Schneider....if the plan is to hang onto Lou until a better deal comes, but tell Schneider is the future....than it wont be a problem.
IT really depends on what Gillis plan is.
The point is, TO is not the only option and Gillis wont take our crap to unload Lou.

- Fakepartofme

No matter what we give as our opinion, I think this will be one of the most intriguing off seasons in quite a bit, not only maybe for the Leafs but for a quite a few big name players.
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
Van won't get a huge return on Lu, but he won't be had for a salary dump. Anyone who thinks so is in for a let down.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



yup, which is why I think he remains a Canuck.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
Belfour didn't come with a franchise crippling contract, did he?
- prock

Neither does Lou.
At just over 5 mill for a bonifide starter for 6 more years...not bad at all.
Anyone who thinks he'll go the distance on his 10 years is foolish
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
Burke will not trade for Lu if komi is not part of the package, and he shouldnt
- peddy-93


well said..

the market is severely limited for Lu, who else is there out there who can

A: afford the contract

B: need a 1A goalie

another thing to consider is that burke and gillis would make this trade at a professional level TOPS.. because they dont like each other very much

i cant see burke doing gillis any favours is all.. and if there does happen to be another team willing to overpay.. i also see burke not getting in the way
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:15 PM ET
Neither does Lou.
At just over 5 mill for a bonifide starter for 6 more years...not bad at all.
Anyone who thinks he'll go the distance on his 10 years is foolish

- Fakepartofme



Anyone expecting him to be a top goalie, making him worth that contract, until he's 40 is just as foolish.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
My mistake, however that really doesn't change much. It's all about how you sell it to Schneider....if the plan is to hang onto Lou until a better deal comes, but tell Schneider is the future....than it wont be a problem.
IT really depends on what Gillis plan is.
The point is, TO is not the only option and Gillis wont take our crap to unload Lou.

- Fakepartofme


oh i agree.. not to mention schneider is still RFA.. so gillis can say sign and play or sit...

however, here is the risk gillis will take if luongo isnt moved

a: will schneider resign? yes, probably

b: long term? no, not a chance in hell

c: single year contract to buy gillis time to move Lu? yessir, maybe even on the cheap

d: whats the risk to vancouver? if gillis doesnt get lu moved, schneider will become UFA at seasons end

thats kind of how i see this playing out if gillis doesnt get his asking price in the offseason
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Jun 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
so if those "rumours" are "true".. then dont trade for Lu and really screw up Vancouver
- peddy-93


right now gillis is in a bad spot.. if he can get schneider on a contract the whole scope of the game changes
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
Neither does Lou.
At just over 5 mill for a bonifide starter for 6 more years...not bad at all.
Anyone who thinks he'll go the distance on his 10 years is foolish

- Fakepartofme

As far as MLSEL is concerned, there are six more years on the contract.

The final four years are for a total of $7 million in actual money - which is exactly what the Leafs spent over two years so they didn't have to look at Finger.

And if a miracle happens and Luongo is still good after six years, well, even better.

If we can get Luongo and shed some crap in the process, I'm all for it.

Throw in D'Amigo or Franson so Gillis can sell it to his fans.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
right now gillis is in a bad spot.. if he can get schneider on a contract the whole scope of the game changes
- Dozzer

Domino's I tells ya.
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