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jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Bolland and Crawford is better and Komisarek.
- stormeyAlterEgo

You really think the Canucks will trade with one of their biggest rivals?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
Why only one year with Schneider. Pretty sure 3 years at 4 mill per would be doable.

Your analogy at the end is fitting however I doubt he would pick up a homeless person at the bus station and take him home and feed him for the next two years (Komisarek)

- stormeyAlterEgo

Because Schnieder won't sign for any more than he has to, if Luongo is still in the stable.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
I've just got this weird feeling Luongo's going to end up in SJ. It wouldn't be the first time Doug Wilson made a huge, surprise move in the offseason.

I could see Luongo+ for Niemi and Marleau.


Let's hope I'm wrong though.

- sjsharks92


I could see Luongo, Booth + Raymond for Thornton + Clowe
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
Burke gets fired if the Leafs miss the playoffs. Luongo is his only ticket to the playoffs.

Gillis knows this and is going to fleece Burkie.

- Scooby_Doo


you sir, are gonna end up being very disappointed methinks
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
Bolland and Crawford is better and Komisarek.
- stormeyAlterEgo

Well yah, but would Chicago move them for Louongo? Not so sure they would.
aj_furf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
He's got plenty of options.
The Leafs have one option, Luongo. That puts Burkie in a very tough spot.

Gardiner, Schenn + 1st for Luongo.

- Scooby_Doo


I give this a 0% chance. I don't doubt that Vancouver would demand it, but this isn't a situation where Luongo HAS to go to the Leafs. Everyone would agree we'd be much better off rocking Reimer and Scrivens and keeping those three assets.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
you're nuts.. why in hell would chicago give up anything of value?

as soon as a second team enters the picture and the price goes up the two GM's will drop out quickly.. nobody wants a guy signed til he is 43.. plain and simple

luongo will not get a good return... mark my words.

- Dozzer

Anything of Value??? You do realize that guys like Komisarek and Connolly have a negative value right.

I'm not saying a great return...but if it's Komisarek or Connolly there will be more involved from the Leafs perspective. Mark my words.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
I could see Luongo, Booth + Raymond for Thornton + Clowe
- Scooby_Doo


Hey.. whatever trade you think up... just make sure that Couver gets the landslide better end of it...

and then continue to hit the "submit" button.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
I could see Luongo, Booth + Raymond for Thornton + Clowe
- Scooby_Doo




So a 33 year old goalie with a hefty contract, a 2nd line winger and a 3rd line winger for a first line center and a 2nd line powerforward?

Jake_1723
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
Florida is below the cap floor and luongo lives there. He canbe there starter and teach markstrom then leave when markstrom is ready. Gillis hates burke so if he is trading luongo for spare parts cause he can't find a deal it sure as hell won't be toronto. So good luck with your low ball offers because MG would rather trade with the panthers like he has in the past many times.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
Chicago doesn't have the cap...

But florida is a good idea....

Bring Luongo back to where he started off...

They have a ton of room... Theodore only has 1 year left and played very shaky.. Clemmenson is a UFA.

It makes sense. It would put fans in the stands.

- JVince117

No, it wouldn't.

Seriously.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
burke hangs up phone

that has gotta be one of the dumbest trade proposals i have seen on this sight

- Dozzer


really? that's the dumbest...

Someone from Toronto said Luongo for Komisarek + 3rd.

If Toronto is the trading partner, I could see Schenn, MacArthur + 2nd being the deal.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hey.. whatever trade you think up... just make sure that Couver gets the landslide better end of it...

and then continue to hit the "submit" button.

- JVince117


Why would I do it the other way around?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:47 AM ET
really? that's the dumbest...

Someone from Toronto said Luongo for Komisarek + 3rd.

If Toronto is the trading partner, I could see Schenn, MacArthur + 2nd being the deal.

- Scooby_Doo




Don't be too disappointed when you guys get a crap return for him.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:47 AM ET
You really think the Canucks will trade with one of their biggest rivals?
- jbold

Likely not. I also don't think Gillis is going to bend over for Burke.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
Where are my bath salts Lou
- AdamFrench

I ate'em
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
Anything of Value??? You do realize that guys like Komisarek and Connolly have a negative value right.

I'm not saying a great return...but if it's Komisarek or Connolly there will be more involved from the Leafs perspective. Mark my words.

- stormeyAlterEgo

They have a negative value because you watch Leaf fans tear them apart so much. Connolly has one more year left, he is an easy out for Vancouver. Komisarek, although never living up to expectations in Toronto, can be a decent bottom pairing Dman, who brings some much, much needed toughness to Vancouver.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
really? that's the dumbest...

Someone from Toronto said Luongo for Komisarek + 3rd.

If Toronto is the trading partner, I could see Schenn, MacArthur + 2nd being the deal.

- Scooby_Doo


Put the pipe down please !
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
Trying to get Luongo back! haha
- JVince117

There's no need for that kind of talk... BAN HIM!
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
Why would I do it the other way around?
- Scooby_Doo


I didn't say the other way around... I was talking about this little magical thing called an "even" trade...

By the way... I hear that Couver is already shopping Kassian around!?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
I guess he could but I doubt he would.
Schneiders agent: "my client should be paid like a number one."
Canucks: "Why? He's always been a back up."

Independent arbitrator looks at the stats......Schneider is not going to be happy.


The Canucks could take him although I doubt they do, hoping to sign him to a long term deal.

- stormeyAlterEgo


But what's the better option to getting that pay day? ....signing a modest 3 year deal at the risk of sharing time with Lou? ...or riding it out for 1 possibly strike shortened year then signing some mega-deal as a UFA next summer? I like the latter choice better if I'm his agent. UFAgency is where you get max pay.

Parise made that same choice.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
Likely not. I also don't think Gillis is going to bend over for Burke.
- stormeyAlterEgo

If he doesn't, than he is stuck with a goalie with a 10 year contract.

Whats going to happen when Schneider needs to resign?

Going to be pretty awesome when Schneider is stuck behind Lu, and than he asks for a trade.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
If the Canucks are taking back salary...pretty sure Chicago could dig up 5 mill in cap space to go back that is better than Komisarek or Connolly.

See...this is what I don't get. Why do you think it's ok for Toronto to be able to give back crap salary and not a team like Chicago???

- stormeyAlterEgo

Because Chicago hasn't expressed any interest whatsoever in getting Luongo.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
They have a negative value because you watch Leaf fans tear them apart so much. Connolly has one more year left, he is an easy out for Vancouver. Komisarek, although never living up to expectations in Toronto, can be a decent bottom pairing Dman, who brings some much, much needed toughness to Vancouver.
- Leafland


There has to be youth or a decent 2nd round or better pick..

I liked my idea of the 2013 conditional pick.. where if Luongo wins X amount of games its a 1st rounder.. or if toronto makes it to the playoffs its a 1st rounder but if he doesn't meet one or both of the criteria its a 2nd rounder.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
The pattern will likely continue until the kool-aid drinkers suddenly see the light and know that the problem is and always has been Burke. All these bad deals have one thing in common they were masterminded by Burke.
- spatso


And if Ottawa ends up in the bottom 5 next year?
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