just curious what would it take from Toronto to get Stastny? Obviously excluding the big 4 young players everyone wants to get rid of... Kadri Schenn Gardiner and our 5th overall pick... Because thats a step in the wrong direction.
- Bar-South

You arent getting much if you dont include those players in any deal bc really thats your teams assets and everything else is really not desirable at all.

no... Kassian was your Lucic, Folignos not like Lucic, hes more skilled and not nearly as tough, Lucic would pummel him.
- Bar-South

Kassian blows, has a terrible attitude, and will never live up to the hype. Ask Vancouver how they feel about him. Steve Bernier v2.0

Edit.....also not saying Foligno is the next lucic. But he will scrap and has 20 goal potential. Also has no problem working hard on every shift and hitting everything that moves, something kassian would not do for all the talk and hype.

I wouldn't classify Sekera as a stay at home dman by any stretch of the imagination. He's actually quite adept at carrying and rushing the puck up, he's much more of an offensive dman. He did start to lay the lumber on guys coming down his wall late last year, but not particularly wonderful in front of the net. The problem with Sekera is it's stretches of fantastic play followed by stretches of abysmal play. He can't seem to find the same kind of consistency that he plays with in international competition. Peaks and valleys with him.
- twistedwrister9

this, to a T

Kassian blows, has a terrible attitude, and will never live up to the hype. Ask Vancouver how they feel about him. Steve Bernier v2.0

Edit.....also not saying Foligno is the next lucic. But he will scrap and has 20 goal potential. Also has no problem working hard on every shift and hitting everything that moves, something kassian would not do for all the talk and hype.
- twistedwrister9

rumor has it vancouver is literally already trying to trade him. already fed up wih his attitude



a VERY VERY VERY reliable guy in our blogs posted that he could be heading to philly?


kassian is horrendous

There been a few mentions of Colorado and big free agents signings bc we have the cap space for guys like Parise and Suter to break the bank. I dont see it happening either but thats all that has been mentioned about big names coming to our side
- DDM-Coga

They have the cap space because the ownership isn't serious about competing. Take a look at the NY Islanders, they've had upwards of 20 mil the last few years but you don't see them in talks with Parise or Suter. Sorry to put you with the likes of the Islanders; no one should have to endure that.

They have the cap space because the ownership isn't serious about competing. Take a look at the NY Islanders, they've had upwards of 20 mil the last few years but you don't see them in talks with Parise or Suter. Sorry to put you with the likes of the Islanders; no one should have to endure that.
- TheJerseyDevil1

...the difference being I think players would go to Colorado, players don't want any part of going to the islanders even if they do talk to them. Case in point they tried to get Ehrhoff after trading for his rights and he wanted no part.

The Avs dont need a 1st round pick this year. The future is now for them. They have the cash to get one or two marquee FA players to put them over the top. Duchene and Statsny will be better, add a player like Suter or Parise to the team with Landeskog, OReilly, Jones, Erik J, Ginn and Downie and they will be a team very hard to beat.

although im not a huge Stastny fan, i dont see a point in trading him unless its for someone like Benn

Let's see here. For all the Avs fans whining about how this trade is terrible, you essentially get Stastny's production back in Roy, cheaper no less, for one year AT LEAST. Sekera, meanwhile, qualioty 3-4 guy, he's a 2 way offensive minded defenseman. Not bad. AND the first? Come on fellas. That's a great f'kin deal. Personally, I don't see what all the rage is about with Stats. Guy makes way too much for what he appears he can do these days. I wouldn't do that trade, just cause I don't really want him. IMO.
- TheSabresTaco

Look at it this way.,
Roy is is cheaper now, but if we re-sign him will likely get a raise.
Stastny still has 2 years and will likely re-sign for less (unless his production increase back to that 70 point range).
So in the end it works out to be the same.

They have the cap space because the ownership isn't serious about competing. Take a look at the NY Islanders, they've had upwards of 20 mil the last few years but you don't see them in talks with Parise or Suter. Sorry to put you with the likes of the Islanders; no one should have to endure that.
- TheJerseyDevil1

The main difference between both teams,
Colorado has a arena, Islanders do not.

I'd do it, Duchene is going to steal Stasny's job this year anyway with a bounce back season.

What's it gonna take for you guys to trade us Ryan O'Reilly?

What's it gonna take for you guys to trade us Ryan O'Reilly?
- AnnGee44

Which arm do you like better?

Which arm do you like better?
- martok2309

haha I was soooo pissed when the Leafs didn't take him. Last year was just the start of him becoming a Selke contender.

haha I was soooo pissed when the Leafs didn't take him. Last year was just the start of him becoming a Selke contender.
- AnnGee44

Kid is the most dedicated player I've seen since Sakic.

Scraps? Roy had been a consistent 60+ point player for five years before this year and all of a sudden he's scrap? If I may remind you, your boy Paul Stastny didn't have such a fine year himself. Sekera is a good two-way 3/4 pairing defenseman who would definitely help address one of the Avs' current organizational weaknesses. The only reason the first is included is because Buffalo seems desperate for a legitimate (and natural) 1st line center.

Sorry, but I hate when people base a player's value off a single up or down year. The point I'd like to get across is that both Stastny and Roy are highly skilled forwards who had down years. Neither should have value detractedfrom them considering their past performances. I think that's one of those deals where both teams can win their respective parts of the deal. Besides, you could always trade Roy off to a team like Dallas or Anaheim that severely lacks center depth
- MaximumBone

Sekera is an average defenseman at best--the same type of defensemen you could easily find as a UFA. Roy is an undersized center who hasn't regained his scoring touch since suffering a pretty severe injury in a league that's increasingly demanding size and durability from top scoring lines. When you're that small and you're coming off an injury, it's a "what have you done for me lately?" world. Roy's just not that valuable right now. Sorry-just the way it is. So yes. Scraps and a 1st. A 1st that nets a player 2-3 years away from making it in all likelihood.

The point I'd like to get across is that the NHL is not NHL 12, and the emphasis on stats here is a little ridiculous. The difference between Roy and Stastny has nothing to do with stats. The difference is 3 inches, 20 lbs, league perception, and pedigree. Stastny has a famous father, he's a starter on a premiere national team, and he's seen as having potential. These things bring value, regardless of stats. Sorry if it's not fair, but it's the way the league works...

...the difference being I think players would go to Colorado, players don't want any part of going to the islanders even if they do talk to them. Case in point they tried to get Ehrhoff after trading for his rights and he wanted no part.
- twistedwrister9

I agree that I don't think Colorado's a bad place for players to go at all, but I just don't think the owners are really serious about bringing high profile guys in and making the team a contender. I base that on moves like trading JM Liles for peanuts to get out of paying him a decent salary and also constantly signing bargain players while sitting well bellow the cap. I feel bad for the fans who pay a lot of money to see the team play because I don't think their putting out anywhere near the best lineup they could have.

Also for the record I am in no way an Av's hater, I've just been disappointed at some of the moves they've made over the last couple years. That group that owns them also own the Nuggets and a couple other teams and sometimes I feel like the av's take a backseat even though they don't deserve it.

Also for the record I am in no way an Av's hater, I've just been disappointed at some of the moves they've made over the last couple years. That group that owns them also own the Nuggets and a couple other teams and sometimes I feel like the av's take a backseat even though they don't deserve it.
- TheJerseyDevil1

That appears to be the case but the Avs have been shown in the past that when they need money to sign someone, they will dish it out.

It just went to extreme proportions in 2008-09 that they had to cut costs and go back to basics.

no... Kassian was your Lucic, Folignos not like Lucic, hes more skilled and not nearly as tough, Lucic would pummel him.
- Bar-South

Wow an ignorant and dumb statement from a leafs fan never seen that before


Foligno is both tougher and harder working than Kassian. when Kassian was sent back to the AHL he was called out for not throwing his weight around and having a terrible attitude. Also this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psbl15ggZC0

Im sorry Burkie's a little late on his promise on a tougher team...

Phaneuf is garbage and you know it, and the rest of the league knows it. No matter how you try to spin Phaneuf its just lipstick on a pig.

Duchene needs a new start? He had an offseason bc of injuries, there is no way we are giving up on him, all the fan forum chatter is making other teams believe he is available when he really isnt.

Phaneuf you arent getting a number 1 centre and Schenn isnt landing the other as well. Either of them you would have to part with your 5th overall pick to get the conversations started.
- DDM-Coga

So....
- almost 30 mins a night
- shut down the other teams best
- play PP
- play PK
- 12 goals
- 44 pts

all on a team with zero leadership and zero goaltending is a garbage player?

wow, you guys must have some studs over there!

I agree that I don't think Colorado's a bad place for players to go at all, but I just don't think the owners are really serious about bringing high profile guys in and making the team a contender. I base that on moves like trading JM Liles for peanuts to get out of paying him a decent salary and also constantly signing bargain players while sitting well bellow the cap. I feel bad for the fans who pay a lot of money to see the team play because I don't think their putting out anywhere near the best lineup they could have.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Liles sucked and was traded to get Varlamov.

So....
- almost 30 mins a night
- shut down the other teams best
- play PP
- play PK
- 12 goals
- 44 pts

all on a team with zero leadership and zero goaltending is a garbage player?

wow, you guys must have some studs over there!



- 13LEAFS01

Phaneuf sucks live with it. Every leafs fan I know all say he sucks. Hes a floater and should not be your captain. And that $6.5m cap hit is terrible.

So....
- almost 30 mins a night
- shut down the other teams best
- play PP
- play PK
- 12 goals
- 44 pts

all on a team with zero leadership and zero goaltending is a garbage player?

wow, you guys must have some studs over there!



- 13LEAFS01

So he is top 15 in the NHL hey?

Webber, Suter, Doughty, Chara, Karlson, Pietrangelo, Visnovsky, Myers, Keith, Seabrooke, Letang, Yandle, Boyle, Hamhuis, Edler, Campbell, Staal, Meszaros, Carle, Brewer, Byfuglien

thats 21 dman there that i would put alot higher the Phaneuf and there are still more that i would take. he is lucky if he is top 30 in the NHL especially with kids like Ekma-Larsson, Hedman, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Bogosian, Gudbranson etc.

So....
- almost 30 mins a night
- shut down the other teams best
- play PP
- play PK
- 12 goals
- 44 pts

all on a team with zero leadership and zero goaltending is a garbage player?

wow, you guys must have some studs over there!



- 13LEAFS01

Not true
- almost 30 mins a night
Dont over exaggerate, 25 mins dont lie, take the time to look it up

- shut down the other teams best
Minus 10 player on the season, 92 penalty minutes for someone who doesnt fight anymore, pretty terrible.

- play PP
Someone has to, you gonna put Komisarek/Franson/Gunnarsson/Schenn on your first unit

- play PK
28th worst PK in the league last year

- 44 pts
piggie backing off career years of Kessel and Lupul, got most of his points on the PP which was surprising well for you.