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Habsforever101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
How about a straight up Phaneuf for Stastny? Both 27 this year, both make have a cap hit of 6.5/6.6 million. Both in the top 10-15 stars at their positions. Both have leadership skills but aren't necessary leaders. Both contracts end after the 2013-2014 season.

Or Schenn for Duchene. 21/22 year olds with a ton of potential but could use new starts.

I would do both. If the Leafs are confident about Schultz, Franson and Holzer, it would be smart to trade Phaneuf at peak contractual value, and it's okay to trade Luke if you're getting Duchene.

Maybe Matt Carle (although free agency could run his price up to 4.5-5M) should Burke explore that option, or moving down in the draft and grabbing Trouba to solve any defensive depth issues.

- khanlari

What world to you live in that Phaneuf is a top 15 d in this league? Maybe points wise but all around play he isn't even close! As for Schenn for Duchene that's even more unreasonable Schenn is solid defensively but thats about it, no way that gets you a #1 center. Keep dreaming buddy
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
the rangers have the best situation and the most to offer
- b0s0o1


Leafs dont have a number 1 goalie or number 1 centre, kind of sounds like columbus to me
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Leafs dont have a number 1 goalie or number 1 centre, kind of sounds like columbus to me
- DDM-Coga


i still like the idea of nash in colorado
LeafsDeals
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.19.2012

Jun 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Leafs dont have a number 1 goalie or number 1 centre, kind of sounds like columbus to me
- DDM-Coga

Yeah and apparently he is unwilling to go to the Leafs.
LeafsDeals
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.19.2012

Jun 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
i still like the idea of nash in colorado
- b0s0o1

Its still not gonna happen though even if u packaged Duchene and Varlamov.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
i still like the idea of nash in colorado
- b0s0o1


Its the goalie situation that would probably kill that deal. We would have to toss giguere into the deal so jackets have someone to be tendy for them this season. I am sure they would want Pickard as well. Really arent the solutions to columbus's goalie problems.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Its Howson I believe in CBJ, and Nash's NTC would probably come into play with any potential Avs deal for him.
- LeafsDeals



OOPs

You are right
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:15 PM ET
Its the goalie situation that would probably kill that deal. We would have to toss giguere into the deal so jackets have someone to be tendy for them this season. I am sure they would want Pickard as well. Really arent the solutions to columbus's goalie problems.
- DDM-Coga


as far as i know, the rangers offer does not include a goalie...

as the jackets are in a full rebuild right now, any goalie will do...i'm sure jax fans would understand
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
I actually really like that deal for buffalo. Takes the pressure off Cody Hodgson in his second year. Not sure I like Roy in Colorado. I think you should continue turning o'reilly into a staal mold. Maybe grab another team in the mix that can take Roy and give you guys a solid third line centre and another pick or prospect.

Maybe
To buffalo: statsny
To Colorado: sekera, 12th overall, and Brandon sutter
To Carolina: Roy and the 2013 second rounder from Colorado

Just an example. Carolina might not like giving up sutter but would av fans be willing to give away one of your defensive prospects instead?

Just a thought for a trade.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
As a Sabres fan.....

HELLLLLLLLL NO!!!

A lot of ppl here are sick of Roy, and after having a down year (44pts) I get it
But in the 5 seasons prior to that,
Roy averaged .908ppg
That's the equivalent to 75 points

That 50-60points u think Roy is capable of is definitely a low-ball estimate
Even if you include last season (which I think was a fluke)....

He's still at an average of 69points per full season

And he's only missed significant time once, so he's not injury prone

So why would we even deal Roy for Stastny straight up?!!!!
Stastny has 2.6mil MORE of a cap hit...
And for all this "stastny is a #1 center" talk...
Are u freaking kidding me?!!!
He's not the #1 on his own team!!! Which is presumably why he's available

Btw,
Stastny's ppg.... ONLY .88 (72pounts per full season)
However, stastny has had TWO down seasons in a row...

I'm not willing to trade a player who produces the same (or better),
At a cheaper cap hit,
Plus Sekera (who I think had decent trade value now),
AND
a 1st round pick,
To find out if Stastny's two underperforming seasons are the start of a trend or if he MIGHT bounce back

No thank you
And one more thing...
over the same time span stastny has missed MORE time to injury!!!
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
As a Sabres fan.....

HELLLLLLLLL NO!!!

A lot of ppl here are sick of Roy, and after having a down year (44pts) I get it
But in the 5 seasons prior to that,
Roy averaged .908ppg
That's the equivalent to 75 points

That 50-60points u think Roy is capable of is definitely a low-ball estimate
Even if you include last season (which I think was a fluke)....

He's still at an average of 69points per full season

And he's only missed significant time once, so he's not injury prone

So why would we even deal Roy for Stastny straight up?!!!!
Stastny has 2.6mil MORE of a cap hit...
And for all this "stastny is a #1 center" talk...
Are u freaking kidding me?!!!
He's not the #1 on his own team!!! Which is presumably why he's available

Btw,
Stastny's ppg.... ONLY .88 (72pounts per full season)
However, stastny has had TWO down seasons in a row...

I'm not willing to trade a player who produces the same (or better),
At a cheaper cap hit,
Plus Sekera (who I think had decent trade value now),
AND
a 1st round pick,
To find out if Stastny's two underperforming seasons are the start of a trend or if he MIGHT bounce back

No thank you
And one more thing...
over the same time span stastny has missed MORE time to injury!!!

- jdfitz77

thats okay, the leafs will take him
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
stastny and nash as the centerpiece for a trade would be a good hockey trade for both teams
- b0s0o1


Are you a (frank)ing retard?
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Col very well could sign some big UFA but Suter nor Parise have expressed no desire to play in our division.
- VANTEL


Parise hasn't, but Suter said he wants to stay in the west.
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
And no I don't want any Buffalo players.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Scraps and a 1st for Stastny, I'd pass. Sekera, Ennis, and a first for Stastny...maybe.
- Dissent



how about you add Duchene if you want ennis
BraxtanFILM
Colorado Avalanche
Location: United States, CA
Joined: 09.21.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
No thanks. The AVS really don't need any more small forwards or mediocre defensemen (and I don't mean to insult Buffalo...we just have a very mediocre D as it is).

As for the draft pick, well, the AVS felt comfortable trading their pick to Washington because they felt this was a weak draft class.
Avs-Ice
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Boulder, CO
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
No thanks. The AVS really don't need any more small forwards or mediocre defensemen (and I don't mean to insult Buffalo...we just have a very mediocre D as it is).

As for the draft pick, well, the AVS felt comfortable trading their pick to Washington because they felt this was a weak draft class.

- BraxtanFILM

I'd agree with that, we just need to build through the draft with the picks we have and add through free agency We've done enough trades recently. Now isn't really the time in the re-build for them.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Are you a (frank)ing retard?
- Drij


care to elaborate?
sabresfan365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
We are pretty good on D-men as well,

Would you do Vanek, Kaleta, 21st overall, for Stastny and Mueller? I can personally vouch that his coconut is ok.

- DDM-Coga


Nope. Kaleta is a fan favourite and trading vanek in a deal for stastny is pointless since the only real reason I'd want Stastny is so he could help Vanek. I like Mueller but not that much.
sabresfan365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
Scraps and a 1st for Stastny, I'd pass. Sekera, Ennis, and a first for Stastny...maybe.
- Dissent


lmao I wouldn't even do Ennis for Stastny, nice try.
Nez1976
Colorado Avalanche
Location: FL
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Disagree, Avs have a lot of core pieces in place right now that columbus doesnt, our backend is more solidified with Varly in net, Johnson, Barrie, Elliott on the blue line
- DDM-Coga



Dont forget about Duncan Seimens, you think he has a good shot at making the roster this season? Or maybe even hopefully playing a few games here and there?
Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Ridiculous no way in hell would I take that trade.

Teams better offer younger assets than that in a trade market that IS NOT EXACTLY SATURATED WITH TOP 6 CENTERS.

I really don't care what you think of Stastny.. Any team needing a center is going to get bent the F* over. Because guess what? We roll three scoring lines SO Stastny's contract is not an issue. Thanks for playing GO HOME and come back with a better offer.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
Dont forget about Duncan Seimens, you think he has a good shot at making the roster this season? Or maybe even hopefully playing a few games here and there?
- Nez1976


Not this season, He had his concussion and missed a good chunk of time. Would rather see him be healthy and get major ice time down on the farm then bring him up now and fight for bottom pairing minutes, too many contracts in front of him.
sudburyboy
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
I wouldn't make any deal with the Sabers that wouldn't include Marcus Foligno....that boy's gonna be a fan favorite for every team he plays for in his career
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:25 PM ET
care to elaborate?
- b0s0o1


Nash is a born loser.
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