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billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
That's why I'd rather have player B. He's cheaper. By quite a bit.
- HonkFortheGoose


I agree with you... until the trade deadline then I want to see Roysie Buh bye

no matter where the Sabres are in the standings
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
Anybody else sick of the Penguins players being talked about as if each were a deity in skates as much as I am?

The deals that Penguins fans want for Staal, and some proposed, are patently ridiculous.

- kingcong39

Such is the nature of fan proposed deals. There is a point however that they don't have to trade him this year, so any deal would have to convince them to do so.
rcostel77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
It is what it is... I proved that the last 3 years Stastny was better.. and then you had to go back 6 years in order for Roy to hold a candle..
- JVince117


Whatever the point is, I hope everyone can agree that Statsny is not the solution for the Sabres' top center - - he's Plan C or D in my eyes.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
Such is the nature of fan proposed deals. There is a point however that they don't have to trade him this year, so any deal would have to convince them to do so.
- nfph


I get that, but people need to use reality and understand what someone is really worth, not what he is worth in fantasy land.

Anybody that gives up what was suggested in the latest Penguins blog is clearly on hallucinogens.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:11 PM ET
It is what it is... I proved that the last 3 years Stastny was better.. and then you had to go back 6 years in order for Roy to hold a candle..
- JVince117




She went back 6 years because thats how long Stastny has been in the league.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
Whatever the point is, I hope everyone can agree that Statsny is not the solution for the Sabres' top center - - he's Plan C or D in my eyes.
- rcostel77



Sabres management doesn't agree.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
Sabres management doesn't agree.
- dadeadhead


Unfortunately they thought Leino was the answer last year...
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
Whatever the point is, I hope everyone can agree that Statsny is not the solution for the Sabres' top center - - he's Plan C or D in my eyes.
- rcostel77


how about :

To C Bus: Roy Sekera and Neimi

To Sharks : Nash

To Buf : Pavelski
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
It is what it is... I proved that the last 3 years Stastny was better.. and then you had to go back 6 years in order for Roy to hold a candle..
- JVince117


You did? I hardly think so.

GP: 234 to 195
G: 63 to 53
A: 189 to 95
Pts: 252 to 148
+/- -13 to 1
PIMS: 140 to 118
PPG: 20 to 18
SHG: 1 to 2
GWG: 7 to 9

I think that proves that Roy is more than capable of "holding a candle" to Stastny.

Stastny is lazy defensively which means he'll end up in Ruff's dog house quicker than you can say "dumb idea." Roy plays pretty big minutes on the PK. Stastny averaged :37 per game. I'll pass. The extra 2.6 mil is not worth it.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
Whatever the point is, I hope everyone can agree that Statsny is not the solution for the Sabres' top center - - he's Plan C or D in my eyes.
- rcostel77


I agree.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
Leino compared to Stastny... not fair.. haha

Honestly... what are the options...

Staal's asking price is way too high it seems...
Not a single whisper of Getzlaf being available..
Don't want Thonton or Marleau
Clowe/Pavelski aren't getting traded unless it is Nash coming back.
Nash doesn't have us on his list...
Parise is more possible if he knows he has a legit #1 center next to him
Vanek, Adam, Brennan, and all of our picks are still available to trade as well.
Leino can get the Amnesty Clause if approved.

- JVince117


Yeah, I'm curious why you wouldn't want Joe Thornton?
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:20 PM ET
Last 3 years.... Did some research.. NOW who would you rather have..?

Roy:

GP: 194
G: 53
A: 95
P: 148
+/-: 1
PIM: 118
PPG: 18
SHG: 2
GWG: 9
AFO%: 48.6%
Hits: 78
GvA: 152
TkA: 134
Blks: 113

Stastny:

GP: 234
G: 63
A: 126
P: 189
+/-: -13
PIM: 140
PPG: 20
SHG: 1
GWG: 7
AFO%: 51%
Hits: 156
GvA: 81
TkA: 170
Blks: 133

don't get mad Goose.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:22 PM ET
She went back 6 years because thats how long Stastny has been in the league.
- dadeadhead


That damn selective reading bug must be going around again.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:22 PM ET
Derek Roy, Paul Stastny.

Not saying Stastny is the answer but let's be brutally honest. Derek Roy is the epitome of what is and has been wrong with the Sabres roster for about 6 years.

Just move him. I don't care who comes back. Deal Stafford for the same reason. Sekera too.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
Last 3 years.... Did some research.. NOW who would you rather have..?

Roy:

GP: 194
G: 53
A: 95
P: 148
+/-: 1
PIM: 118
PPG: 18
SHG: 2
GWG: 9
AFO%: 48.6%
Hits: 78
GvA: 152
TkA: 134
Blks: 113

Stastny:

GP: 234
G: 63
A: 126
P: 189
+/-: -13
PIM: 140
PPG: 20
SHG: 1
GWG: 7
AFO%: 51%
Hits: 156
GvA: 81
TkA: 170
Blks: 133

don't get mad Goose.

- JVince117


Lazy defensively you say!??

Look at those hits, takeaways, and blocks..

even with Roy playing almost 40 games less.. Roy still has almost DOUBLE the giveaways then does Stastny..

Please...
rcostel77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
Any chance Mark Pysyk is kept and then makes the opening day roster if two of Regehr, Sekera, Leopold, or Weber are dealt?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Last 3 years.... Did some research.. NOW who would you rather have..?

Roy:

GP: 194
G: 53
A: 95
P: 148
+/-: 1
PIM: 118
PPG: 18
SHG: 2
GWG: 9
AFO%: 48.6%
Hits: 78
GvA: 152
TkA: 134
Blks: 113

Stastny:

GP: 234
G: 63
A: 126
P: 189
+/-: -13
PIM: 140
PPG: 20
SHG: 1
GWG: 7
AFO%: 51%
Hits: 156
GvA: 81
TkA: 170
Blks: 133

don't get mad Goose.

- JVince117


Roy, because nothing in those stats proves that Stastny is worth the 2.6 mil more per year than Roy. They just don't. Sorry. You can throw all the extra stats in there you want. He's not the style player that's going to fit in here well because he doesn't play well defensively.

And BTW, I beat you to the stats anyway.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
That damn selective reading bug must be going around again.
- HonkFortheGoose


yea... look at the actual research I just did...

3 years is all that matters...
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
how about :

To C Bus: Roy Sekera and Neimi

To Sharks : Nash

To Buf : Pavelski

- billyk


Man Columbus gets boned again.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Yeah, I'm curious why you wouldn't want Joe Thornton?
- sambarugh

He's bigger than he plays. In the post season, he alternates between disengaged and taking stupid penalties.

I watch a fair amount of Sharks hockey over here.

He's also on the downswing of his career, and really really likes it in San Jose, as in I could see him pouting about a trade likes it there.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Last 3 years.... Did some research.. NOW who would you rather have..?

Roy:

GP: 194
G: 53
A: 95
P: 148
+/-: 1
PIM: 118
PPG: 18
SHG: 2
GWG: 9
AFO%: 48.6%
Hits: 78
GvA: 152
TkA: 134
Blks: 113

Stastny:

GP: 234
G: 63
A: 126
P: 189
+/-: -13
PIM: 140
PPG: 20
SHG: 1
GWG: 7
AFO%: 51%
Hits: 156
GvA: 81
TkA: 170
Blks: 133

don't get mad Goose.

- JVince117



I like Stastny over Roy but would be happier than a pig in poop if neither were here.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Lazy defensively you say!??

Look at those hits, takeaways, and blocks..

even with Roy playing almost 40 games less.. Roy still has almost DOUBLE the giveaways then does Stastny..

Please...

- JVince117


His big fat -13 says otherwise. Or did you miss that stat?
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
Derek Roy, Paul Stastny.

Not saying Stastny is the answer but let's be brutally honest. Derek Roy is the epitome of what is and has been wrong with the Sabres roster for about 6 years.

Just move him. I don't care who comes back. Deal Stafford for the same reason. Sekera too.

- Pairo11


if you want to change the "culture" of this team you need to fire Regier and Ruff

players come and players go , all they are is a number against the cap

you want change get rid of the guys that have been here for 14 seasons
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
Roy, because nothing in those stats proves that Stastny is worth the 2.6 mil more per year than Roy. They just don't. Sorry. You can throw all the extra stats in there you want. He's not the style player that's going to fit in here well because he doesn't play well defensively.

And BTW, I beat you to the stats anyway.

- HonkFortheGoose


you are such a poor sport its not even funny.... it is BLATANT right there that Stasnty is a better all around center it could sit in your lap and call you momma..

Just admit that you lost... tuck your tail.. and fight again another day.. WOW!
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
yea... look at the actual research I just did...

3 years is all that matters...

- JVince117


Can't we just all agree that no one really want Roy or Statsny on the team and move on...?
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