DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Schneider, Raymond, Booth, Tanev + our 1st (2012) and two conditional picks in 2013 to Dallas for Ott, Benn, Burrish, Fistric and their 2nd |
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Schneider, Raymond, Booth, Tanev + our 1st (2012) and two conditional picks in 2013 to Dallas for Ott, Benn, Burrish, Fistric and their 2nd - DariusKnight
If Dallas would say yes , surrrrrreeeee for me . |
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micah555
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Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC Joined: 10.03.2007
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What about taking a chance on Latendresse? Says he's healthy. Would gamble on a 1 year deal, see how he works out. - immature_male
I think he's a 3rd liner with possible upside at this point. He is a big body with skill. But with 11 and 16 games in the last 2 seasons, he better be impressive in the physicals. I'd take him for cheap if he's actually able to play. But we'd still need to have more guys that can fill in for/replace him if his health doesn't stand up. |
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micah555
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Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC Joined: 10.03.2007
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I guess if his stock has dropped. A year ago you guys would laugh at that trade. It wouldn't take long for Hemmer to make fans out of you guys as long as he stayed healthy. If Tambs was offered that deal he would be crazy not to take it. - doon
Yeah, that's a terrible deal for Vancouver. I'd be pretty unhappy if that went through. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I think he's a 3rd liner with possible upside at this point. He is a big body with skill. But with 11 and 16 games in the last 2 seasons, he better be impressive in the physicals. I'd take him for cheap if he's actually able to play. But we'd still need to have more guys that can fill in for/replace him if his health doesn't stand up. - micah555
Finally a realistic proposal, this is place is becoming CDC 2.0 lately.
I'd be actually okay with Latandresse, he'd come at a nice price coming off an injury and is a big physical winger that can score and has skill. Those types are rare, if healthy he'd be a perfect fit. |
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Yeah, that's a terrible deal for Vancouver. I'd be pretty unhappy if that went through. - micah555
Chomps agrees we need a puck mover , You won't get RNH ,so who is the next best if you did a trade with them? Can't please everyone.
Hemskey with Kesler and a bigger/better forward than Booth could make an effective second line.
You have to remember teams are not busting down the door for Lus services |
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Finally a realistic proposal, this is place is becoming CDC 2.0 lately.
I'd be actually okay with Latandresse, he'd come at a nice price coming off an injury and is a big physical winger that can score and has skill. Those types are rare, if healthy he'd be a perfect fit. - Nucker101
You are ok with it, and two posts against it. You can't win , when someone makes a proposal here . I again will say this is a rumour site ,not a GMs meeting. (Comments not made at you). If we don't make stupid proposal we are talking about who is your favourite girl on the Bachelor? |
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Dr.Cerebral
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Location: Leafs aren't going to build th Joined: 02.13.2012
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The Bruins won the cup one year ago yesterday. So I'm gonna say the video can't possibly be a year old. - Couv19
the video was produced by nostradamus. |
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the video was produced by nostradamus. - Dr.Cerebral
Did Bruins win a cup |
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Dr.Cerebral
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Did Bruins win a cup - VANTEL
according to the video; yes. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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You are ok with it, and two posts against it. You can't win , when someone makes a proposal here . I again will say this is a rumour site ,not a GMs meeting. (Comments not made at you). If we don't make stupid proposal we are talking about who is your favourite girl on the Bachelor? - VANTEL
All I ask is that you make realistic proposal, try to look at it from the other team's perspective and can we please stop with these huge and totally unrealistic Edler/Kesler/Booth for (insert star player here) proposals? I get that it's fun to dream but come on.
As much as everyone here wants a major shakeup, it's just very unlikely to happen this year, other than Lu possibly moving(for less than what you guys are expecting).
Edler: is our most talented defenseman with the most upside, a lot of d-men have consistency issues at his age and it's been reported his back was bothering him all season long. He's been drafted and developed by this team and will definitely not be moved this season.
Booth: was just acquired and apparently Gillis was trying to acquire him since 2010 so he's obviously not going to give up on him after less than a full season when he joined the team without training camp and a summer with the Canucks condition program.
Kesler: It's sad that I have to even defend this guy. We're turning into TO fans! He's the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs and a dominant player at both ends of the ice when healthy(which he clearly was not this season after he rushed back from injury and didn't get a full off-season to train). He might even struggle again next season with another surgery and I get that there's concerns of him breaking down but if he rehabs the right way and takes more than enough time to come back, which I'm sure MG will make sure of, I think he'll have a bounecback season. This guy is a keeper.
I'm on board with wanted Manny and Raymond gone, but MG knows that both are much better players and again, they both were coming off of very serious injuries and didn't have a full summer of their usual training. They can be better players than last season, whether it's here or elsewhere.
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Dr.Cerebral
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Location: Leafs aren't going to build th Joined: 02.13.2012
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All I ask is that you make realistic proposal, try to look at it from the other team's perspective and can we please stop with these huge and totally unrealistic Edler/Kesler/Booth for (insert star player here) proposals? I get that it's fun to dream but come on.
As much as everyone here wants a major shakeup, it's just very unlikely to happen this year, other than Lu possibly moving(for less than what you guys are expecting).
Edler: is our most talented defenseman with the most upside, a lot of d-men have consistency issues at his age and it's been reported his back was bothering him all season long. He's been drafted and developed by this team and will definitely not be moved this season.
Booth: was just acquired and apparently Gillis was trying to acquire him since 2010 so he's obviously not going to give up on him after less than a full season when he joined the team without training camp and a summer with the Canucks condition program.
Kesler: It's sad that I have to even defend this guy. We're turning into TO fans! He's the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs and a dominant player at both ends of the ice when healthy(which he clearly was not this season after he rushed back from injury and didn't get a full off-season to train). He might even struggle again next season with another surgery and I get that there's concerns of him breaking down but if he rehabs the right way and takes more than enough time to come back, which I'm sure MG will make sure of, I think he'll have a bounecback season. This guy is a keeper.
I'm on board with wanted Manny and Raymond gone, but MG knows that both are much better players and again, they both were coming off of very serious injuries and didn't have a full summer of their usual training. They can be better players than last season, whether it's here or elsewhere. - Nucker101
i'm getting the impression that gillis still really likes his team. likes the core and likes the depth. i expect minor changes again this year (similar to what you said) other than lu.
But don't discourage trade proposals no matter how far fetched you might think they are. without trade proposals how would we be able to troll each other? |
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All I ask is that you make realistic proposal, try to look at it from the other team's perspective and can we please stop with these huge and totally unrealistic Edler/Kesler/Booth for (insert star player here) proposals? I get that it's fun to dream but come on.
As much as everyone here wants a major shakeup, it's just very unlikely to happen this year, other than Lu possibly moving(for less than what you guys are expecting).
Edler: is our most talented defenseman with the most upside, a lot of d-men have consistency issues at his age and it's been reported his back was bothering him all season long. He's been drafted and developed by this team and will definitely not be moved this season.
Booth: was just acquired and apparently Gillis was trying to acquire him since 2010 so he's obviously not going to give up on him after less than a full season when he joined the team without training camp and a summer with the Canucks condition program.
Kesler: It's sad that I have to even defend this guy. We're turning into TO fans! He's the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs and a dominant player at both ends of the ice when healthy(which he clearly was not this season after he rushed back from injury and didn't get a full off-season to train). He might even struggle again next season with another surgery and I get that there's concerns of him breaking down but if he rehabs the right way and takes more than enough time to come back, which I'm sure MG will make sure of, I think he'll have a bounecback season. This guy is a keeper.
I'm on board with wanted Manny and Raymond gone, but MG knows that both are much better players and again, they both were coming off of very serious injuries and didn't have a full summer of their usual training. They can be better players than last season, whether it's here or elsewhere. - Nucker101
I think there will two big names moved but that is ok.
The reason for me (only ) thinking there will be more than one big name moved is a couple of reasons.
Injuries . If Edler and Kesler are going to be injury prone throughout thier career, then move them when they have value. I still believe Edler is a B defensman that has played 30-40 brilliant games in his career ,but that is another topic
My second and biggest reason is this team was built for the NHL game 2011-12. Gillis imported that type of skilled player.For whatever reason the NHL unannounced changed the style of the game last year to a bigger, slower, more defensive type of game.We are not equipted for that style and changes have to happen.
Lu may not even be moved at all so until something is definite we will be posting out theories and propsals.If certain poster get your blood boiling I suggest skip to the next one..
I always look forward to your comments and like your contributions. No offense meant. |
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i'm getting the impression that gillis still really likes his team. likes the core and likes the depth. i expect minor changes again this year (similar to what you said) other than lu.
But don't discourage trade proposals no matter how far fetched you might think they are. without trade proposals how would we be able to troll each other? - Dr.Cerebral
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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All I ask is that you make realistic proposal, try to look at it from the other team's perspective and can we please stop with these huge and totally unrealistic Edler/Kesler/Booth for (insert star player here) proposals? I get that it's fun to dream but come on.
As much as everyone here wants a major shakeup, it's just very unlikely to happen this year, other than Lu possibly moving(for less than what you guys are expecting).
Edler: is our most talented defenseman with the most upside, a lot of d-men have consistency issues at his age and it's been reported his back was bothering him all season long. He's been drafted and developed by this team and will definitely not be moved this season.
Respectfully disagree, he's due to get a significant raise and there are plenty of D in our system that can do what he can for less (although granted, not with quite the upside). Connauton and McNally for one. His back has bothered him for two years now and I question whether he'll be able to hold up physically over time.
Booth: was just acquired and apparently Gillis was trying to acquire him since 2010 so he's obviously not going to give up on him after less than a full season when he joined the team without training camp and a summer with the Canucks condition program.
Again, I disagree, Gillis might have been after him since 2010, but this was more about getting rid of Sammuelsson and Sturm than about Booth. It was a lateral move seeing as Booth was a disappointment in Florida. He's shown flashes of brilliance and while I agree that it's unlikely he gets moved, but he's not untouchable.
Kesler: It's sad that I have to even defend this guy. We're turning into TO fans! He's the kind of guy you win with in the playoffs and a dominant player at both ends of the ice when healthy(which he clearly was not this season after he rushed back from injury and didn't get a full off-season to train). He might even struggle again next season with another surgery and I get that there's concerns of him breaking down but if he rehabs the right way and takes more than enough time to come back, which I'm sure MG will make sure of, I think he'll have a bounecback season. This guy is a keeper.
The thing is, he's never going to be healthy, he's lost a step thanks to both his hips being operated on and now his wrist shot is going to lose something due to his shoulder operation. He's also got a major attitude problem and his antics on and off the ice are a major distraction to a team that prides itself on professionalism and commitment. It's not as if this is a recent development, he's been like this for quite some time now. Let's be frank, I think this year's Kesler is probably closer to what you will see from him than the '10/'11 Kesler.
I'm on board with wanted Manny and Raymond gone, but MG knows that both are much better players and again, they both were coming off of very serious injuries and didn't have a full summer of their usual training. They can be better players than last season, whether it's here or elsewhere. - Nucker101
This last paragraph, I can agree with, let them go elsewhere and retool that part of our lineup. |
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Fosco
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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I think there will two big names moved but that is ok.
The reason for me (only ) thinking there will be more than one big name moved is a couple of reasons.
Injuries . If Edler and Kesler are going to be injury prone throughout thier career, then move them when they have value. I still believe Edler is a B defensman that has played 30-40 brilliant games in his career ,but that is another topic
My second and biggest reason is this team was built for the NHL game 2011-12. Gillis imported that type of skilled player.For whatever reason the NHL unannounced changed the style of the game last year to a bigger, slower, more defensive type of game.We are not equipted for that style and changes have to happen.
Lu may not even be moved at all so until something is definite we will be posting out theories and propsals.If certain poster get your blood boiling I suggest skip to the next one..
I always look forward to your comments and like your contributions. No offense meant. - VANTEL
Don't want to get into it too much, but I would argue he's had 30-40 brilliant games a season for the past 3 years.
Honest question; you don't think he was great before he got injured last year? Or had 20-30 brilliant games the season before that? |
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Don't want to get into it too much, but I would argue he's had 30-40 brilliant games a season for the past 3 years.
Honest question; you don't think he was great before he got injured last year? Or had 20-30 brilliant games the season before that? - Fosco
I see where you are going. His first couple of years he looked really really good .He has the tools and he has the skill . He needs to drop the on again ,off again game. If he can bring his game with the big hits and the big shots ,no one is saying move Edler.If he is not going to be consistent , then he is average.There are only about 10 players in the league I would trade him for but until he brings his A game 70 games a year then I am on the fence.Right now to me he is a B with a lot of upside that can be an A ,but he better find that guy soon time is running out.
Before injury he was great. |
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Gillis said the other day we feel confident about the guys we are targeting in free agency.
I think Garrison is one , and maybe Shultz . I think he may even offer Salo as a number 8 instead of AHLberts. Will Rome be back?
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Gillis said the other day we feel confident about the guys we are targeting in free agency.
I think Garrison is one , and maybe Shultz . I think he may even offer Salo as a number 8 instead of AHLberts. Will Rome be back?
Any others you think that are targeted? - VANTEL
Garrison - Yes, if he can convince him to sign for less than what is reported that he wants at 4+ mil a season.
Shultz - He'll try for him, but I think Edmonton will be his choice honestly, just because he would become their #2-3 D-man with how bad their ECHL D is.
Parise/Suter - No chance, he's not going to pay them more than what the Sedins are making or for the term they're looking for.
Semin - We tried this with Shirokov, enough said.
Carle - Possibility, but I think he resigns with PHI personally
Parenteau - Now there is someone I could see Gillis trying to entice West, have to be for decent term/price
Doan - He's staying in the Desert, he's too loyal to the franchise like Iginla is to the Flames.
Gaustad - Might be a replacement for Pahlsson provided he doesn't ask for the moon.
Gill/Wideman - Possible if we can't get a decent D in a trade or something. |
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Scooby_Doo
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Garrison - Yes, if he can convince him to sign for less than what is reported that he wants at 4+ mil a season.
Shultz - He'll try for him, but I think Edmonton will be his choice honestly, just because he would become their #2-3 D-man with how bad their ECHL D is.
Parise/Suter - No chance, he's not going to pay them more than what the Sedins are making or for the term they're looking for.
Semin - We tried this with Shirokov, enough said.
Carle - Possibility, but I think he resigns with PHI personally
Parenteau - Now there is someone I could see Gillis trying to entice West, have to be for decent term/price
Doan - He's staying in the Desert, he's too loyal to the franchise like Iginla is to the Flames.
Gaustad - Might be a replacement for Pahlsson provided he doesn't ask for the moon.
Gill/Wideman - Possible if we can't get a decent D in a trade or something. - DariusKnight
Garrison isn't coming to Vancouver. I spoke to a friend of his a few days ago, says he's got an offer from Florida he is likely taking.
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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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Garrison - Yes, if he can convince him to sign for less than what is reported that he wants at 4+ mil a season.
Shultz - He'll try for him, but I think Edmonton will be his choice honestly, just because he would become their #2-3 D-man with how bad their ECHL D is.
Parise/Suter - No chance, he's not going to pay them more than what the Sedins are making or for the term they're looking for.
Semin - We tried this with Shirokov, enough said.
Carle - Possibility, but I think he resigns with PHI personally
Parenteau - Now there is someone I could see Gillis trying to entice West, have to be for decent term/price
Doan - He's staying in the Desert, he's too loyal to the franchise like Iginla is to the Flames.
Gaustad - Might be a replacement for Pahlsson provided he doesn't ask for the moon.
Gill/Wideman - Possible if we can't get a decent D in a trade or something. - DariusKnight
Wideman is exactly what he needs same style of play like hamhuis and 2 hamhuis's ain't bad at all. |
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Garrison isn't coming to Vancouver. I spoke to a friend of his a few days ago, says he's got an offer from Florida he is likely taking. - Scooby_Doo
You put a knife though our hearts with that one. |
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Scooby_Doo
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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You put a knife though our hearts with that one. - VANTEL
He wants long term at 4.5. I doubt Gillis would give a 5 year deal to him. |
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Garrison - Yes, if he can convince him to sign for less than what is reported that he wants at 4+ mil a season.
Shultz - He'll try for him, but I think Edmonton will be his choice honestly, just because he would become their #2-3 D-man with how bad their ECHL D is.
Parise/Suter - No chance, he's not going to pay them more than what the Sedins are making or for the term they're looking for.
Semin - We tried this with Shirokov, enough said.
Carle - Possibility, but I think he resigns with PHI personally
Parenteau - Now there is someone I could see Gillis trying to entice West, have to be for decent term/price
Doan - He's staying in the Desert, he's too loyal to the franchise like Iginla is to the Flames.
Gaustad - Might be a replacement for Pahlsson provided he doesn't ask for the moon.
Gill/Wideman - Possible if we can't get a decent D in a trade or something. - DariusKnight
I have seen rumours the Canucks have want in on Carle
I know last year the Canucks were kicking tires with Parenteau.
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Brandon_Lee
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Location: Canada, BC Joined: 11.26.2007
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Finally a realistic proposal, this is place is becoming CDC 2.0 lately.
I'd be actually okay with Latandresse, he'd come at a nice price coming off an injury and is a big physical winger that can score and has skill. Those types are rare, if healthy he'd be a perfect fit. - Nucker101
Agreed. For some reason, the quality of posts on here have declined rapidly over the last year or so.
It seemed like previous offseason conversations were always based in reality, with people making rational arguments for how to improve the Canucks either via free agency, draft, or trade.
Now this place has become overrun with "how about we trade Edler, Schneider and Kesler for half the Columbus Blue Jackets".
I think it can mostly be attributed to having Esplen as the Vancouver blogger. With previous bloggers, they would always provoke conversation about issues related to the team (what should the Canucks do with this specific RFA, what is the number one offseason priority, etc). Now we just have Esplen and his garbage fantasy trade proposal blogs. Awful. |
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