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Forums :: Blog World :: Steve Palumbo: Could Schultz have Learned Something from O.C. Native Ryan Lasch?
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:07 PM ET
The kid is in his early 20's. Beleive it or not, he is going to make questionable decisions.

He said he would sign, and he changed his mind. That is the extent of what he has done wrong, and it is absolutely no reason to villanize the player.

- Leafs43



The problem now is the trickle affect, imagine the CBA including FA instead of draft
wonder if this opens the door?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
The problem now is the trickle affect, imagine the CBA including FA instead of draft
wonder if this opens the door?

- puckhead17


I would say absolutely zero chance.
mbell
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.14.2012

Jun 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
getting tired of everyone having such a problem about Schultz - namely Anaheim.

He's following the league rules - he never signed a contract, is it his problem that there is a loophole? what is he some indentured slave?

Tell me that if there was not a loophole for a GM to improve his team he would not take advantage of it?

He is in a position to choose his employer - just like every other person does....
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:18 AM ET
getting tired of everyone having such a problem about Schultz - namely Anaheim.

He's following the league rules - he never signed a contract, is it his problem that there is a loophole? what is he some indentured slave?

Tell me that if there was not a loophole for a GM to improve his team he would not take advantage of it?

He is in a position to choose his employer - just like every other person does....

- mbell


Once again, it's not what he's doing, it's how he's doing it. If he doesn't want to play in Anaheim, how about filling us in. How about giving us a little information to work with. Don't tell his mom, don't tell his barber. Tell us! We're the one who drafted you!

Also, it's not just Anaheim fans that are questioning his judgement, your blogger did too several days ago.
mac6110
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 07.16.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:56 AM ET
The kid is in his early 20's. Beleive it or not, he is going to make questionable decisions.

He said he would sign, and he changed his mind. That is the extent of what he has done wrong, and it is absolutely no reason to villanize the player.

- Leafs43



So do you think that the ducks would have traded Gardiner to TO if they would have known Schultz would not sign like he said he was?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
So do you think that the ducks would have traded Gardiner to TO if they would have known Schultz would not sign like he said he was?
- mac6110


I was under the impression that it was this year Schultz said he would sign. Gardiner was traded last year.

And this brings up an interesting point. it shows that teams can show absolutely no loyalty to a player by trading them, but when a player shows no loyalty, he is a villain.
mac6110
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 07.16.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
I was under the impression that it was this year Schultz said he would sign. Gardiner was traded last year.

And this brings up an interesting point. it shows that teams can show absolutely no loyalty to a player by trading them, but when a player shows no loyalty, he is a villain.

- Leafs43



It is my understanding that TO wanted Schultz thrown in the deal not Gardiner. Had we known he wanted to play elsewhere I believe we would still have Gardiner. I understand that he may have changed his mind, but it screwed us. That is what Ducks fans are pissed about and rightfully so.

I understand your point about loyalty between teams and the players, but to me that goes both ways. Players asking to be traded, taking less money to go where they want, etc. Fans get pissed at both players and the organizations
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
It is my understanding that TO wanted Schultz thrown in the deal not Gardiner. Had we known he wanted to play elsewhere I believe we would still have Gardiner. I understand that he may have changed his mind, but it screwed us. That is what Ducks fans are pissed about and rightfully so.

I understand your point about loyalty between teams and the players, but to me that goes both ways. Players asking to be traded, taking less money to go where they want, etc. Fans get pissed at both players and the organizations

- mac6110

I agree. Schultz screwed the Ducks big time. He could have let them know for a while now so at least they could have got a return for him. I know that this is completely in his rights to do, but he should have handled it better. I would be pissed if I was the Ducks management, players and fans as well. As an Oiler fan I know how it feels. That being said I would love to have him on the Oilers.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
I was under the impression that it was this year Schultz said he would sign. Gardiner was traded last year.

And this brings up an interesting point. it shows that teams can show absolutely no loyalty to a player by trading them, but when a player shows no loyalty, he is a villain.

- Leafs43


Exactly, and why would Schultz want to play for the Ducks anyway when there are about 20 other destinations I would choose as a player. The rules are being followed here so I think the Ducks and their fans are just calling sour grapes. I think Schultz will have a great career in Edmonton.
hemskyis#1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.11.2009

Jun 17 @ 8:11 PM ET
Exactly, and why would Schultz want to play for the Ducks anyway when there are about 20 other destinations I would choose as a player. The rules are being followed here so I think the Ducks and their fans are just calling sour grapes. I think Schultz will have a great career in Edmonton.
- flyerdude17

I hope so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:00 AM ET
Im prepared to offer this to you guys and i wanna know what you guys think even though i find it funny but would it be fair is the question

To Anahiem: 1st Rounder 2012, 1st Rounder 2013, Kadri, Colborne, Biggs, Percy, Blacker, Franson, Kulemin, Macarthur, Armdog, Holzer, Ashton, Scrivens, Rosehill.

To Toronto: Parros' rights, Schultz rights, Perry, Getzlaf, Bobby Ryan


Anahiems Future Lineups:

Palmieri Kadri Etem

Smith-Pelly Colborne Forsberg

Kulemin Holland Ashton

Biggs Cogliano Rakell

Ex: rosehill


Fowler Dumba

Blacker Percy

Franson Beauch

Ex: holzer, sbisa


Hiller
Scrivens
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:07 AM ET
Im prepared to offer this to you guys and i wanna know what you guys think even though i find it funny but would it be fair is the question

To Anahiem: 1st Rounder 2012, 1st Rounder 2013, Kadri, Colborne, Biggs, Percy, Blacker, Franson, Kulemin, Macarthur, Armdog, Holzer, Ashton, Scrivens, Rosehill.

To Toronto: Parros' rights, Schultz rights, Perry, Getzlaf, Bobby Ryan


Anahiems Future Lineups:

Palmieri Kadri Etem

Smith-Pelly Colborne Forsberg

Kulemin Holland Ashton

Biggs Cogliano Rakell

Ex: rosehill


Fowler Dumba

Blacker Percy

Franson Beauch

Ex: holzer, sbisa


Hiller
Scrivens

- Mapleleafs_91


What a pile of horse crap coming anaheims way... Kadri a 1st liner?...Colborne 2nd line center?... That instantly turns anaheim into a dead last team every year for the next few years. The ONLY thing toronto is giving up that has any real value is the 2 1sts and Franson. The rest are scraps... and wouldn't get you one of those players let alone all 3.... you pretty much threw in every player that toronto fans don't want any more.. the only player you left off is Komi.

That is probably the worst and most lopsided trade proposal I have ever seen in the history of the world... WOW... you just took a giant poop on the whole Anaheim organization and should issue an apology to anyone who reads this.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:42 AM ET
What a pile of horse crap coming anaheims way... Kadri a 1st liner?...Colborne 2nd line center?... That instantly turns anaheim into a dead last team every year for the next few years. The ONLY thing toronto is giving up that has any real value is the 2 1sts and Franson. The rest are scraps... and wouldn't get you one of those players let alone all 3.... you pretty much threw in every player that toronto fans don't want any more.. the only player you left off is Komi.

That is probably the worst and most lopsided trade proposal I have ever seen in the history of the world... WOW... you just took a giant poop on the whole Anaheim organization and should issue an apology to anyone who reads this.

- kneughter


Relax there buddy, i wanted to see what their fans would say to it since we gave up practically our whole farm for 3 players


And how did i throw in every single player toronto DOESNT WANT? i included practically all our major prospects basically our whole farm... which all have potential and are at ages of 18-22.... and it was just a funny thing to think about since it would be funny if getzlaf and perry come to toronto in some trade like that since burke and carlyle are there
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
What a pile of horse crap coming anaheims way... Kadri a 1st liner?...Colborne 2nd line center?... That instantly turns anaheim into a dead last team every year for the next few years. The ONLY thing toronto is giving up that has any real value is the 2 1sts and Franson. The rest are scraps... and wouldn't get you one of those players let alone all 3.... you pretty much threw in every player that toronto fans don't want any more.. the only player you left off is Komi.

That is probably the worst and most lopsided trade proposal I have ever seen in the history of the world... WOW... you just took a giant poop on the whole Anaheim organization and should issue an apology to anyone who reads this.

- kneughter



You're right -- take out parros. That should even it out
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