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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
Also wouldn't we be basically in the same boat we were a year ago if we did that?
- JoeRussomanno


Yes. I dont see the Flyers taken on Nash and his cap hit when they need defense.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
Nice work. I'm not sold since I think what we currently have plus a Garrison or Wideman is better then that squad but I give you credit for putting it together. I also don't see Schenn, Bob and our 1st being enough but that's just me.
- coffee junkie

To be honest.. Id take Mike Weaver over Wideman in a heartbeat.

add Mike Weaver and (assuming the B's cant resign him) Greg Campbell.

Hartnell-Coots-JvR
Read-Briere-Czechie
Schenn-Coots-Simmonds
Wellwood-Campbell-Talbot

Carle-Timonen
Grossmann-Coburn
Meszy-Weaver

Bryz/Bob

Call it a day.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:13 PM ET
I know that.. and thats exactly why I wouldnt make that move.

If I am getting a guy with that high a cap hit.. i dont care who the (frank) he plays for.. I wanna see at least 80 points a season (consistently) before i bring him on.

- jak521



how much would you pay Parise over 6 years to play in Philly? Same age as Nash... Better numbers on a better team.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:13 PM ET
Nice work. I'm not sold since I think what we currently have plus a Garrison or Wideman is better then that squad but I give you credit for putting it together. I also don't see Schenn, Bob and our 1st being enough but that's just me.
- coffee junkie


Thanks. And yeah I agree that that won't be enought to get a deal done. Someone will have more to offer, but thats what I would leave on the table. Maybe include Cousins. I wouldnt move JVR unless Weber is coming the other way. I think you have to give him another year, although I'm not sure of the issues the organization and JVR's family have. I would imagine he wouldn't of signed such a long deal if the issues were of anything of concern.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
To be honest.. Id take Mike Weaver over Wideman in a heartbeat.

add Mike Weaver and (assuming the B's cant resign him) Greg Campbell.

Hartnell-Coots-JvR
Read-Briere-Czechie
Schenn-Coots-Simmonds
Wellwood-Campbell-Talbot

Carle-Timonen
Grossmann-Coburn
Meszy-Weaver

Bryz/Bob

Call it a day.

- jak521


Call me a sucker but I would add Schultz and 4th line center who can win face-offs and play special teams, if I cant get Weber. I hold off until next year when Timonen comes off the books and try to get Edler or Enstrom.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jun 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
To be honest.. Id take Mike Weaver over Wideman in a heartbeat.

add Mike Weaver and (assuming the B's cant resign him) Greg Campbell.

Hartnell-Coots-JvR
Read-Briere-Czechie
Schenn-Coots-Simmonds
Wellwood-Campbell-Talbot

Carle-Timonen
Grossmann-Coburn
Meszy-Weaver

Bryz/Bob

Call it a day.

- jak521


Did you trade Giroux for a bag of pucks?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
Did you trade Giroux for a bag of pucks?
- KGBflyers10


Missing the best player on the team...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
Nice work. I'm not sold since I think what we currently have plus a Garrison or Wideman is better then that squad but I give you credit for putting it together. I also don't see Schenn, Bob and our 1st being enough but that's just me.
- coffee junkie

To be honest.. Id take Mike Weaver over Wideman in a heartbeat.

add Mike Weaver and (assuming the B's cant resign him) Greg Campbell.

Hartnell-G-JvR
Read-Briere-Czechie
Schenn-Coots-Simmonds
Wellwood-Campbell-Talbot

Carle-Timonen
Grossmann-Coburn
Meszy-Weaver

Bryz/Bob

Call it a day.

I meant to have G on that top line.. not sure how I f-ed that up.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
Call me a sucker but I would add Schultz and 4th line center who can win face-offs and play special teams, if I cant get Weber. I hold off until next year when Timonen comes off the books and try to get Edler or Enstrom.
- stveshdy

moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
Did you trade Giroux for a bag of pucks?
- KGBflyers10



Lol. And I think I read Campbell resigned with Boston. Could be wrong there. To lazy to check.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
Lol. And I think I read Campbell resigned with Boston. Could be wrong there. To lazy to check.
- moylander

I thought that they couldnt resign him and someone else because of their cap sitchieayeshun


Edit: looks like i was wrong
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:19 PM ET

- jak521


I been saying this for awhile now. Shultz is a young defenseman who has great potential. I would rather go with a young kid who will struggle at times than add a veteran who will command big money and tie up cap space. Shultz will take up limited cap space and if you want to upgrade you can at the deadline. Get that 4th line center who can play those hard minutes (win some faceoffs)and give the other guys some rest.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
Lol. And I think I read Campbell resigned with Boston. Could be wrong there. To lazy to check.
- moylander


Gregory Campbell has agreed to a three-year/$4.8 million contract extension with the Boston Bruins.This is a great depth signing for the Boston Bruins. Campbell had 16 points and 80 penalty minutes in 78 games this season.
Jun 11 - 6:17 PM
Source: Bob McKenzie on Twitter
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
I know Bill does work for the Dallas Stars. Just read this report.

Sheldon Souray has reportedly turned down a one-year contract offer from the Dallas Stars. It's believed that the Stars were offering Souray about $3 million. If the report is true, then Souray might regret it later. Souray had a respectable six goals and 21 points in 64 games last season. However, he's got a long injury history and he'll turn 36 in July. Even in a thin market, he's not likely to get another offer worth more than $3 million annually, although there might be a team out there open to giving him a two-year deal if he's willing to be flexible in terms of pay.
Source: Andy Strickland on Twitter
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 15 @ 4:28 PM ET
Did you trade Giroux for a bag of pucks?
- KGBflyers10

And double-shifting young Couts.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:29 PM ET
First!
- RooNosHockey


Such a waste.

Obviously "Carle Sucks" was the first thing that should have been posted.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:30 PM ET
Tampa just got a goalie (lindback). They are a good young team to watch out for.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Anders Lindback to Tampa for all their picks after the first round or something like that.

Leight.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
Tampa just got a goalie (lindback). They are a good young team to watch out for.
- moylander


The EC needs more good goalies.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jun 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
I know Bill does work for the Dallas Stars. Just read this report.

Sheldon Souray has reportedly turned down a one-year contract offer from the Dallas Stars. It's believed that the Stars were offering Souray about $3 million. If the report is true, then Souray might regret it later. Souray had a respectable six goals and 21 points in 64 games last season. However, he's got a long injury history and he'll turn 36 in July. Even in a thin market, he's not likely to get another offer worth more than $3 million annually, although there might be a team out there open to giving him a two-year deal if he's willing to be flexible in terms of pay.
Source: Andy Strickland on Twitter

- stveshdy


Yup. I'm sure he's looking for the highest paying 3 year deal he can get. 3 years at 2.5M is better than having to do the same thing at this time next season.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
Would you do G for Weber?

No one responded to my request really... Name top 5 most likely targets and the odds we get them.

Still a good day. I learned the definition of forechecking. In large part, it means getting the puck.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
Anders Lindback to Tampa for all their picks after the first round or something like that.

Leight.

- rockychocbill

Looks like a goalie and two seconds plus a third.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
I thought that they couldnt resign him and someone else because of their cap sitchieayeshun


Edit: looks like i was wrong

- jak521


524 -3 = meoff?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
how much would you pay Parise over 6 years to play in Philly? Same age as Nash... Better numbers on a better team.
- moylander


6m per
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
You have to understand that he has 90-100 pt potential playing next to a guy like Giroux.

Look at what he's done in Columbus with no supporting cast. He's the only guy on his team who defenses have to worry about, so they will often solely focus in on shutting him down. That wouldn't happen here, or elsewhere for that matter.

He's not as soft as JvR either. He throws his body around when he's going, and is a much better finisher. The fact that he's 6'4, 220 helps too.

I'd love to have him.

- LordStanley88


Hypothetical question. In your opinion, If Nash is on the Flyers this past Season, would the Flyers have beaten NJ in that Series?
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