That should be his hockey card photo.
- canadianpenfan

If I wasn't so fond of my new Koolaide guy avatar I would swithc to this picture.

If anything I'd say the last two drafts we didn't make the "safe & obvious" pick. Last year we passed on Couturier and Hamilton to take Strome. The previous year Nino wasn't the consensus pick, we passed on Connolly and Skinner. I'm not upset in the slightest with either pick, I just don't think we always get the obvious, safe pick.
- eichiefs9

I actually think we picked Nino because of MArk Striet being from Switzerland. We did another first two guys on teh same team from Switzerland. We are all about first. This year we will draft two arabs and be the first with two arabs on the team

There's a wide disparity on this drafts' Dmen.
Some rank Murray the highest. Others have Dumba slated to be chosen as first Dman. But I've also seen Cody Ceci and Reinhart ahead of Murray & Dumba, both.


- jmo16

whered you see that??

That's because Murray isn't elite talent. He is the safest pick, you know what you're going to get with him, which is a very good and steady defenseman. Guys like Dumba and Rielly have special skill-sets and bigger upsides but are much bigger risks to bust or not reach their potential. IF we pick defense, Murray is what we need. Another Hamonic, not in terms of style of play, but meaning a strong, calm presence on the blueline that can play in all 3 zones, in every situation. Rielly may end up being an offensive dynamo, but at this point in time he isn't what this team needs.

I still say you draft skill over need, so if Grig/Gally are on the board when we pick, it's a no brainer.

Also I said about a month or so ago that I think Ceci will be one of the biggest sleepers in this draft. Like John Carlson was. Pure speculation, but that's just the feeling I get.
- eichiefs9

in theory i agree with this but given the fact that (as we all know) the isles have a hard time signing FA and making trades, they have to build a lot of their team through the draft, and given that (apparently) no one wants to sign with the isles, it makes getting a dman all the more important, therefore im not against the draft according to team needs.

that doesnt mean draft recklessly, E.G. if murray is taken before #4 and they want one of dumba, reinhart, trouba, reily than trade down and pick up some more assets.

If anything I'd say the last two drafts we didn't make the "safe & obvious" pick. Last year we passed on Couturier and Hamilton to take Strome. The previous year Nino wasn't the consensus pick, we passed on Connolly and Skinner. I'm not upset in the slightest with either pick, I just don't think we always get the obvious, safe pick.
- eichiefs9

truth

LOL yeah probably. Man ole man if I see any Islanders at this charity event I am going to make mention of this site. I think they should read this and see how there fan base feels
- kasperrko

Pretty sure they do? I'm sure DP prob doesn't come here anymore

Just saw that the Wild wants to trade up in the draft and were talking to the Islanders. What do you guys think? Sounds like a stinker, Why would they want extra picks in a poor draft class? When you should just try and get the best players available in the draft.

Just saw that the Wild wants to trade up in the draft and were talking to the Islanders. What do you guys think? Sounds like a stinker, Why would they want extra picks in a poor draft class? When you should just try and get the best players available in the draft.
- hawks101010

Where did you see this?

A lot of people think Ceci is the big sleeper. Maybe we trade down then and draft him? Maybe get an extra pick out of the deal??
- kasperrko

Or trade up and take him a la Mr. Calvin deHaan

Just saw that the Wild wants to trade up in the draft and were talking to the Islanders. What do you guys think? Sounds like a stinker, Why would they want extra picks in a poor draft class? When you should just try and get the best players available in the draft.
- hawks101010

Yeah is there a source on that one?

Scott Niedermeyer 6 foot 200 pounds
Bobby (frank)ing Orr 6 ft 200
Erik Karlsson 6ft 180
Del Zotto 6 ft 190
Ryan McDonagh 6'1 215
Drew Doughty 6'1 218


all "small" dmen i can keep going but to call Murray small is INSANE
- NYI78

Denis Potvin was about ^ foot also and he was pretty good...

Don't mind me as I stop by, but I want to correct a misconception.

The Isles (and Garth) do not select NHL ready players. In fact, they hold a belief that you select the best player of the next 5-10 years. Therefore, you select accordingly on that projection.

This is a pretty widely held belief across the NHL, as well. The only teams who should be selecting "read-now" players are contending teams. They can afford that.

EG: Philly getting Couturier, while the Isles who liked him chose Strome instead. They felt Strome would be the better projected player career-wise.

So when Bob or any others talk about NHL-ready players, pay it no mind. For the Isles adhere to this, and players like Murray might not even be selected if there at the #4 spot UNLESS they feel he will have the best overall projected career. Being NHL ready doesn't even enter their mind until they can contend and afford to choose that way.

Have a good weekend all. Just wanted to impart that.

thx for mention Dee!

Denis Potvin was about ^ foot also and he was pretty good...
- kear20

I meant 6 Foot...my keyboard is acting up again...

Also... very likely Isles stick to the #4 spot. They will wait to see what plays out. Likely have few players all rated equally, and depending on what happens, they are happy to sit pretty at #4 and collect whoever is still there.

Also... very likely Isles stick to the #4 spot. They will wait to see what plays out. Likely have few players all rated equally, and depending on what happens, they are happy to sit pretty at #4 and collect whoever is still there.
- B.D. Gallof

your guess?

Don't mind me as I stop by, but I want to correct a misconception.

The Isles (and Garth) do not select NHL ready players. In fact, they hold a belief that you select the best player of the next 5-10 years. Therefore, you select accordingly on that projection.

This is a pretty widely held belief across the NHL, as well. The only teams who should be selecting "read-now" players are contending teams. They can afford that.

EG: Philly getting Couturier, while the Isles who liked him chose Strome instead. They felt Strome would be the better projected player career-wise.

So when Bob or any others talk about NHL-ready players, pay it no mind. For the Isles adhere to this, and players like Murray might not even be selected if there at the #4 spot UNLESS they feel he will have the best overall projected career. Being NHL ready doesn't even enter their mind until they can contend and afford to choose that way.

Have a good weekend all. Just wanted to impart that.

thx for mention Dee!
- B.D. Gallof

I disagree...I guess John Taveres was not NHL ready when they drafted him...lets put all the cards on table BD...the Islanders management sucks...they have no clue what they are doing...hence the lousy results. Dave Maloney said it best during one of the Saturday Hockey Night broadcasts. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) outside of Tavares, Okposo and Hamonic, they are the only NHL players they have. He said they got lucky with Moulson but Parenteau and Grabner and the others they bring in are other teams castoffs and unitil they change their thinking, they will continue to be at the bottom of the standings. I'm not a Dave Maloney fan but I pretty much agree with him...

Just saw that the Wild wants to trade up in the draft and were talking to the Islanders. What do you guys think? Sounds like a stinker, Why would they want extra picks in a poor draft class? When you should just try and get the best players available in the draft.
- hawks101010

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s_2012_draft_free_agency/ lots of talk out there.. let's see if any is real.

Also... very likely Isles stick to the #4 spot. They will wait to see what plays out. Likely have few players all rated equally, and depending on what happens, they are happy to sit pretty at #4 and collect whoever is still there.
- B.D. Gallof

It Ryan Murray is there and they don't pick him...then like I said in another post...they are clueless...

I disagree...I guess John Taveres was not NHL ready when they drafted him...lets put all the cards on table BD...the Islanders management sucks...they have no clue what they are doing...hence the lousy results. Dave Maloney said it best during one of the Saturday Hockey Night broadcasts. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) outside of Tavares, Okposo and Hamonic, they are the only NHL players they have. He said they got lucky with Moulson but Parenteau and Grabner and the others they bring in are other teams castoffs and unitil they change their thinking, they will continue to be at the bottom of the standings. I'm not a Dave Maloney fan but I pretty much agree with him...
- kear20

Jeezus.. just stop already please. your right Matt Martin, Bailey, Macdonald, Strome, Nino, Dehaan, Nelson are all terrible picks. they suk.. they should have listened to u and instead of Drafting Bailey and getting picks by moving down that resulted in Kabanov, Hamonic, and Petrov they should have taken Filitov.

Jeezus.. just stop already please. your right Matt Martin, Bailey, Macdonald, Strome, Nino, Dehaan, Nelson are all terrible picks. they suk.. they should have listened to u and instead of Drafting Bailey and getting picks by moving down that resulted in Kabanov, Hamonic, and Petrov they should have taken Filitov.
- niteislander

You're as clueless as they are...

You're as clueless as they are...
- kear20

The Islanders are going to end up with at least 8 NHL players from 2008 draft and looks like 5 from 2009... but I am clueless.

You're as clueless as they are...
- kear20

The Islanders are going to end up with at least 8 NHL players from 2008 draft and looks like 5 from 2009... but I am clueless.

The Islanders are going to end up with at least 8 NHL players from 2008 draft and looks like 5 from 2009... but I am clueless.
- niteislander

The guys you mentioned...I bet two are traded before next season starts...my guess is Kabonov will be the first one sent packing with a pick for an NHL defenseman...Garth was pissed when he sid he was going to the KHL...Petrov could be right behind him....

I disagree...I guess John Taveres was not NHL ready when they drafted him...lets put all the cards on table BD...the Islanders management sucks...they have no clue what they are doing...hence the lousy results. Dave Maloney said it best during one of the Saturday Hockey Night broadcasts. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) outside of Tavares, Okposo and Hamonic, they are the only NHL players they have. He said they got lucky with Moulson but Parenteau and Grabner and the others they bring in are other teams castoffs and unitil they change their thinking, they will continue to be at the bottom of the standings. I'm not a Dave Maloney fan but I pretty much agree with him...
- kear20

follows same logic if you think about it...

Who did they feel would have the better projected career?

Especially seeing on how things progressing.

But if they felt Duchene was that better career to their system and scouts, they would have selected that way.




As for Murray... if Isles scouts/system think he's going to be the best player for next 5-10 yrs, he will be selected. But won't be about "being ready".

The guys you mentioned...I bet two are traded before next season starts...my guess is Kabonov will be the first one sent packing with a pick for an NHL defenseman...Garth was pissed when he sid he was going to the KHL...Petrov could be right behind him....
- kear20

What value you think Kabanov has? A depth dman? Won't be anything close to a young player.

KHL issue pure conjecture based on rumor. For all we know, he could have been setting up spot IF NHL had lockout. The only person who wrote it might have been nefarious was Botta who offered no source, quote, or anything in an actual blog. So hard to really make judgement on that alone.