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Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
The Oilers will take Nail with the top pick & hope to get back into the top 10 to grab a defenseman & Reinhart is on their radar!!

They will not get Murray unless they grab him 1st & that's too high for him.

If they move the pick to drop down, they won't drop past 7 because all those d-men could be gone by then.

My question to all you Oiler fans who continue to post about the Oilers ripping other teams off to get what they want is.....what do you think, seriously, the Oilers would have to give up to get back in the top 10 or top 7(that's if they keep the #1 pick) and grab a top-end d-man in this draft??

This should be entertaining!!

- newmy


So just to summarize, the Oilers wouldn't get a substantial return for the #1 pick....

.... but would have to give up a substantial return for the 5/6/7 pick or where ever Reinhart is drafted.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
They never played in the AHL, and if you think they had nothing to learn, I dont even really wanna talk to you, because thats just an extremely stupid thing to learn. Niether of these kids is a Crosby. And trust me, Edmonton rushed them to the NHL for one reason and one reason only: to sell tickets. But its a myopic stratagy and floors me that anyone can disagree. Have fun losing them to free agency before you even get a sniff of the cup.
- Jimmy_T

Your schtick has worn thin. If you don't mind Mr genius, name me he last 1st overall that didn't jump to the NHL the next year.

While you're doing that, I'll start emailing the GMs that let their 1st overalls make the jump and tell them Jimmy_T says they're wrong.

you're a (frank)ing moron.
Dwight K. Schrute
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sully sucks, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
How has he turned out? is he done? you ended his career before it even started
- coolehmon41

And next year when he still can do nothing, you will end it too.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
Omark for Dougie Hamilton.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



RNH for Marchand
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
So just to summarize, the Oilers wouldn't get a substantial return for the #1 pick....

.... but would have to give up a substantial return for the 5/6/7 pick or where ever Reinhart is drafted.

- Zombie



a zombie you are, you make absolutely no sense at all. But neither does the oiler organization, that's why they continue to pick 1st overall.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
RNH for Marchand
- newmy

I think this bit is played out actually.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
a zombie you are, you make absolutely no sense at all. But neither does the oiler organization, that's why they continue to pick 1st overall.
- newmy

You haven't answered him. Why is the price of the 1st overall not nearly what, according to you, "all" of us Oilers fans think but to get another pick in the top 10 will cost so much?
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
Omark for Dougie Hamilton.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Hamilton for MacT
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
RNH for Marchand
- newmy


Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
a zombie you are, you make absolutely no sense at all. But neither does the oiler organization, that's why they continue to pick 1st overall.
- newmy

So just to summarize, the Oilers wouldn't get a substantial return for the #1 pick....

.... but would have to give up a substantial return for the 5/6/7 pick or where ever Reinhart is drafted.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
In reading several of your posts over the last few days, I find it amusing that you would - on several attempts - try to be condescending to me. A casual review of either of our abilities at communicating our thoughts in English should be enough to get you to stfu when you talk to your superiors. My friend, I know you are just some little Edmonton fan-boy, but you really should open yourself up to the opinions of others. Especially those who are writing comments that are more well written than any blog you are likely to see on this, or any other hockey site. The reason being, that people who can write coherently are inherently smarter than those who can't, and unless you happen to head to a library and pick up a copy of Ulysses later on today, you are unlikely to come across better writer than I. So, in conclusion, the Oilers are being run by one of the league’s worst general managers, and that same GM is about to trade his number one pick to the Leafs, who will draft first for the first time since 1985.
- Jimmy_T


Oh, Jimmy. You are either the biggest (frank)ing troll, or the most deluded leaf fan ever. (Which is truly an accomplishment)
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
In reading several of your posts over the last few days, I find it amusing that you would - on several attempts - try to be condescending to me. A casual review of either of our abilities at communicating our thoughts in English should be enough to get you to stfu when you talk to your superiors. My friend, I know you are just some little Edmonton fan-boy, but you really should open yourself up to the opinions of others. Especially those who are writing comments that are more well written than any blog you are likely to see on this, or any other hockey site. The reason being, that people who can write coherently are inherently smarter than those who can't, and unless you happen to head to a library and pick up a copy of Ulysses later on today, you are unlikely to come across better writer than I. So, in conclusion, the Oilers are being run by one of the league’s worst general managers, and that same GM is about to trade his number one pick to the Leafs, who will draft first for the first time since 1985.
- Jimmy_T

Everybody, and I mean everybody thinks you are either A) a masterful troll or B) cataclysmically stupid. Nobody takes you seriously. You are comic relief. Nothing more. I'm not even sure why I bother replying to you.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
In reading several of your posts over the last few days, I find it amusing that you would - on several attempts - try to be condescending to me. A casual review of either of our abilities at communicating our thoughts in English should be enough to get you to stfu when you talk to your superiors. My friend, I know you are just some little Edmonton fan-boy, but you really should open yourself up to the opinions of others. Especially those who are writing comments that are more well written than any blog you are likely to see on this, or any other hockey site. The reason being, that people who can write coherently are inherently smarter than those who can't, and unless you happen to head to a library and pick up a copy of Ulysses later on today, you are unlikely to come across better writer than I. So, in conclusion, the Oilers are being run by one of the league’s worst general managers, and that same GM is about to trade his number one pick to the Leafs, who will draft first for the first time since 1985.
- Jimmy_T


Putz!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
They never played in the AHL, and if you think they had nothing to learn, I dont even really wanna talk to you, because thats just an extremely stupid thing to learn. Niether of these kids is a Crosby. And trust me, Edmonton rushed them to the NHL for one reason and one reason only: to sell tickets. But its a myopic stratagy and floors me that anyone can disagree. Have fun losing them to free agency before you even get a sniff of the cup.
- Jimmy_T

Reading comprehension. They had nothing to learn at the AHL level. The AHL level is not even close to the NHL in terms of speed and sophistication. They wouldn't have had to adjust to the AHL level of play, but did in the NHL. And they did it well.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
You haven't answered him. Why is the price of the 1st overall not nearly what, according to you, "all" of us Oilers fans think but to get another pick in the top 10 will cost so much?
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Ask the majority of scouts around the league, the first overall pick is NOT as clear-cut as you Oiler fans are making it out to be.

If it was, the Oilers wouldn't even be considering trading it. And by the way, it's all a smokescreen anyways, the Oilers will take Yakupov but WILL NOT get their shot at Reinhart UNLESS they're giving up a top-end prospect in return.

Klefbom is an example but i know, i know, there's no way they're giving up Klefbom is what you'll say because all you coiler fans seem to think all other GMs are stupid and you'd rob them in any deal.

I guess that's why your GM is so smart because he picks first year after year. And Lowe, well he's done a bang-up job in all his years as well, i can't believe these guys don't ice a competitive team - it's amazing!!1
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
If LA didnt win the cup, they probably regretted rushing Doughty, he sat out and sucked so bad this year they almost missed the playoffs, and they had to give him a contract he hadnt earned. That being said, he certianly earned it in the Playoffs. Chicago might have won a second cup if they didnt rush their top two guys. Tb definatley regrets rushing Hedmen. Brent Johnson anyone? Patrick Stefan? I know the Leafs regret rushing Schenn.

In my opinion, the reason so many top picks make theNHL immediatley is because their teams are in last place and have to sell tickets. Theres no right answer, but I don't think an extra year in the minors ever hurt a player, and nearly all top end busts played immediatley.

- Jimmy_T


The problem is that your opinions seem to be all over the place. Perhaps you might want to take some time and get someone to help you figure out what you actually think.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:12 PM ET
Ask the majority of scouts around the league, the first overall pick is NOT as clear-cut as you Oiler fans are making it out to be.

If it was, the Oilers wouldn't even be considering trading it. And by the way, it's all a smokescreen anyways, the Oilers will take Yakupov but WILL NOT get their shot at Reinhart UNLESS they're giving up a top-end prospect in return.

Klefbom is an example but i know, i know, there's no way they're giving up Klefbom is what you'll say because all you coiler fans seem to think all other GMs are stupid and you'd rob them in any deal.

I guess that's why your GM is so smart because he picks first year after year. And Lowe, well he's done a bang-up job in all his years as well, i can't believe these guys don't ice a competitive team - it's amazing!!1

- newmy

If you are unable to answer then just say so. Keep your incoherent novellas to the fan blogs nobody reads.

Judging by the 'coiler' you threw out in im guessing you're a Flames troll, so your frustration is understandable.

I would like you to actually answer the question though.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:14 PM ET
Sorry bud, I know being a leaf fan makes it easy for you to jump on and off the band wagon, so I know it probably makes you feel good to team up with the other teenagers and try to bust my balls, but its just not gonna happen son. I am not even 100% what a troll is and I am actually one of the only Leafs fans who is realistic, objective and intellgent. None of which you have ever proven to be.
- Jimmy_T


Your nothing that you claim to be. Your rude, blustery and without depth. I would prefer for you to choose supporting another team.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
I'm not saying they didnt do well in the NHL as rookies. All I'm saying is that they had nothing to lose by making them play a year in the minors. I hope it works out for the Oils, I do, but I personally wouldnt play anyone outside of Crosby or maybe Stamkos in the NHL as an18 year old. You know, I know its the internet and all, but it is ok to disagree. On an unrelated note, can tell me the last 18 year old to play for Detroit? Is there a better run team in the world? Case rested.
- Jimmy_T

You can't...play in the AHL...unless...you are 20

There. Said it nice and slow.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:16 PM ET
If you are unable to answer then just say so. Keep your incoherent novellas to the fan blogs nobody
Judging by the 'coiler' you threw out in im guessing you're a Flames troll, so your frustration is understandable.

I would like you to actually answer the question though.

- TheTaoOfSemenko



Actually, i'm not a Flames' fan & i just answered your question but you're awesome.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
Sorry bud, I know being a leaf fan makes it easy for you to jump on and off the band wagon, so I know it probably makes you feel good to team up with the other teenagers and try to bust my balls, but its just not gonna happen son. I am not even 100% what a troll is and I am actually one of the only Leafs fans who is realistic, objective and intellgent. None of which you have ever proven to be.
- Jimmy_T


Clearly.

Self promotion is pathetic. All you are doing is reinforcing my statement that you are deluded.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
I'm not saying they didnt do well in the NHL as rookies. All I'm saying is that they had nothing to lose by making them play a year in the minors. I hope it works out for the Oils, I do, but I personally wouldnt play anyone outside of Crosby or maybe Stamkos in the NHL as an18 year old. You know, I know its the internet and all, but it is ok to disagree. On an unrelated note, can tell me the last 18 year old to play for Detroit? Is there a better run team in the world? Case rested.
- Jimmy_T

Oh I see, so this is a matter of opinion is it?

Then what's with your "case rested" posturing, as if you're assertions can't even be argued?

Don't worry, Joyce's writing was fraught with contradiction as well.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
Actually, i'm not a Flames' fan & i just answered your question but you're too stupid to comprehend what i said.

Just goes to show you what a troll you are. You like to talk tough & trash other bloggers you little punk but you what, go ask your mommy for a glass of milk because that's all you are - a 2yr old!!!

If you can't figure out what people are saying, then you my little wannabee need to stay in school & learn!!

- newmy



Omg this is great!
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
If LA didnt win the cup, they probably regretted rushing Doughty, he sat out and sucked so bad this year they almost missed the playoffs, and they had to give him a contract he hadnt earned. That being said, he certianly earned it in the Playoffs. Chicago might have won a second cup if they didnt rush their top two guys. Tb definatley regrets rushing Hedmen. Brent Johnson anyone? Patrick Stefan? I know the Leafs regret rushing Schenn.

In my opinion, the reason so many top picks make theNHL immediatley is because their teams are in last place and have to sell tickets. Theres no right answer, but I don't think an extra year in the minors ever hurt a player, and nearly all top end busts played immediatley.

- Jimmy_T


So in other words no team regrets bringing in 1st OV right after the draft.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Ask the majority of scouts around the league, the first overall pick is NOT as clear-cut as you Oiler fans are making it out to be.

If it was, the Oilers wouldn't even be considering trading it. And by the way, it's all a smokescreen anyways, the Oilers will take Yakupov but WILL NOT get their shot at Reinhart UNLESS they're giving up a top-end prospect in return.

Klefbom is an example but i know, i know, there's no way they're giving up Klefbom is what you'll say because all you coiler fans seem to think all other GMs are stupid and you'd rob them in any deal.

I guess that's why your GM is so smart because he picks first year after year. And Lowe, well he's done a bang-up job in all his years as well, i can't believe these guys don't ice a competitive team - it's amazing!!1

- newmy


So just to summarize, the Oilers wouldn't get a substantial return for the #1 pick....

.... but would have to give up a substantial return for the 5/6/7 pick or where ever Reinhart is drafted.
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